I missed the whole event, looked at vendors and came to the conclusion that I would need 6 or more. Me thinks that I will just stick to my 255.
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Scroll of Valiant Commendation question
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Such a sweet talker you are.
I understand, because it happened to me too. I attended on Chesapeake. I did damage, and healed folks, but I too didn't get a scroll. So, I bought 2 of them for one hundred million a piece. My point is that there are ways to get them.
Why should I be out 200,000,000 gold pieces by the devs making it a gift to all, just because I manned up and bought two scrolls instead of complaining about it?
Ophid
not being able to use a seedbox or ethy is no where near the same as not having the ability to put your characters stats on a level playing field with the rest of the player base. this was a stupid item to be given out for a one time 3 hour event. least they could of made it a champ spawn or peerless drop. people have been asking to boost their stats for years.
i for one am not asking for a handout, rather a longer term window to complete said quest or event to obtain the item, that can be done in a manner of getting some enjoyment out of playing this GAME.
YOU CHOSE TO PAY THE GOLD TO GET THAT ITEM SOME 24 HOURS AFTER THE EVENT WAS OVER. THAT WAS YOUR CALL. IF IT BECOMES MORE WIDELY AVAILABLE YOU HAVE NOONE TO BLAME BUT YOURSELF.
if it doesnt than you probably got a bargain because imagine what they will be worth 6 months from now if they are not again available.
Yes.
Read my post above. People have already spent hundreds of millions for them. Why should we be punished for not complaining?
Buy one if you want one so bad. That's what I did.
Ophid
Just cause people spent gold allready dont mean we shouldnt get another chance at em
I hope they come back
So, I should lose out on the money I spent for them, because you want a second chance at them?
People like me would be hurt more by losing hundreds of millions of gold that we already spent for them, then you would be by not ever getting another chance at them and having to buy them like everybody else that didn't get one at the event.
Ophid
agreed. not my problem if you chose to spend gold on obtaining said item. that was your perogative and i stand by my prior post that you either made a good or bad decision based upon the increased availability of said item.
your post is quite chidlish. if you buy a stock in the market and it goes down, you dont get your money back. your paying 100 million for the scroll is in effect a bet.
your post is quite chidlish. if you buy a stock in the market and it goes down, you dont get your money back. your paying 100 million for the scroll is in effect a bet.
It's not like there was any real forwarning that I saw, though I could have missed it. Events like this do not help to enhance the game play for the whole player base. Some people might choose to spend gold on these items if they feel it is valued but like everything in this game paying a large amount for any item is a risky deal for at any moment your item could be yoinked for a varity of reasons. 5 extra stats does not equate to a huge advantage either side of the coin and would hardly be noticed after a well made suit is factored in.
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Well said.
so cap is raised to 260 now for some? but not for other just as much paying customers?
HOPFULLY all characters get the same oppertunity for development even if they weren't online that ONE day,
didnt they do this once before aswell, but then realised their mistake and added +5 for all as a vetreward ?
im SO dissapointed with the team for not learning from prior mistakes, making an unbalanced game , even more unbalanced,
it even made me sign up here, i never liked to post and cry, as i usually just go on with the game doing other stuff i enjoy when the game takes a bad turn
i was asking myself if i just had a bit of envy, but no i dont feel envy, just pissed of about bad developers not realising how the game works
Where to go further with this? anyone got email to some dev?
HOPFULLY all characters get the same oppertunity for development even if they weren't online that ONE day,
didnt they do this once before aswell, but then realised their mistake and added +5 for all as a vetreward ?
im SO dissapointed with the team for not learning from prior mistakes, making an unbalanced game , even more unbalanced,
it even made me sign up here, i never liked to post and cry, as i usually just go on with the game doing other stuff i enjoy when the game takes a bad turn
i was asking myself if i just had a bit of envy, but no i dont feel envy, just pissed of about bad developers not realising how the game works
Where to go further with this? anyone got email to some dev?
I have had enough scroll talk. I'm just bummed that i missed the event on Pacific because we had like 12 hours notice. If i can suggest anything to the event planners it would be to please give us at least 24 hours notice before major events.
My point is that it is less fair got me to lose 200,000,000 then it is for you to not get one for free.
Thanks for the name calling. People that want free scrolls have called me childish and worse in this thread.
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Hmm, soo I will never be able to get this scroll cause I couldnt play that day and I dont have millions?
Petra for the win
You opted to purchase the item in a secondary market, at no point during this transaction is there a option for you to lose 200 mil gold. It was a choice you made after weighing all the options and deciding that the best course of action would be to purchase these whilst knowing that after all this time in the game the dice could be turned at a moments notice. Really the smart move would have been to buy these items, wait a few weeks for the rest to be sold and now offer them out at 200mil a peice after all the initial people ate the few leaving a true desperate people in the market.
This said you opted to purchase these but losing the gold was never part of the real equation yet hindsight makes you wonder if you made the correct choice. If I was pleased with the deal I'd be posting screen shots of my stat bar to piss off the others whom missed out because I won and they lost. Hindsight and fear is behind your postings, IMO.
I have to say imo I don't think just because some people jumped the gun and paid 100's of millions for them should mean others don't get another chance at getting them. I went to the event and got one on my own but wouldn't bother me at all if they gave them out another way.
Nope, that's not been said, that's just the assumption by some people on these boards. An assumption I happen to think it totally wrong. I believe this is merely the first opportunity to get this scroll.
I hope you are right, and if you are not,some pushing in right direction should change that
I've done my own tour of shards and received a scroll on Pacific, not so much on others, we'll see on LS tonight.
I think we tend to get this way when we feel 'up in the air.' (and yes by that I mean grumpy old men looking for that dream spot). We don't like not knowing where our feet are going to land. I get that.
I also feel bad for those who haven't yet experienced the current storyline with this event and we've done shared a lot of spoilers. It was bound to happen and I know you can say, 'well then don't read anything yet!' but still you wish each shard could enjoy its own unique experience. What we're doing on LS for tonight is way different than what we did last Friday on Pacific.
I'll suffer the math of an extra 5 stats if the time comes, but even now, not all of my characters are up to the current stat cap. For pvp (when I did) it's pretty essential and Mesanna does know a thing or two about killling. So we'll see I guess. For now, I'd just like to actually enjoy the amazing design of Exodus and keep poking Dupre going, 'where ya been?'
I think we tend to get this way when we feel 'up in the air.' (and yes by that I mean grumpy old men looking for that dream spot). We don't like not knowing where our feet are going to land. I get that.
I also feel bad for those who haven't yet experienced the current storyline with this event and we've done shared a lot of spoilers. It was bound to happen and I know you can say, 'well then don't read anything yet!' but still you wish each shard could enjoy its own unique experience. What we're doing on LS for tonight is way different than what we did last Friday on Pacific.
I'll suffer the math of an extra 5 stats if the time comes, but even now, not all of my characters are up to the current stat cap. For pvp (when I did) it's pretty essential and Mesanna does know a thing or two about killling. So we'll see I guess. For now, I'd just like to actually enjoy the amazing design of Exodus and keep poking Dupre going, 'where ya been?'
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What about all those who made new chars just to get more?
People abused it like anything else
Also i believe you payed 200 mil to have it sooner and be guaranteed to have some
But if we get other oppurtunities to get them it really has nothing to do with you
You have any idea how many things i bought that went down in price later on?
You see me getting upset?
Life goes on and its a game
I would like a chance at em of course
And if youre this upset over your 200 mil then perhaps you should have passed on it like i choose to do
I have only 400 mil total
Id rather wait and hope to get another chance its my choice
You made yours
Now we wait and see what happens
Oh look another thread about people complaining about the event this weekend..? How many is that now on the boards?.. Again I agree with Petra and Again why not just be fricking happy we had a event that was fun and had a great boss at end..Do you people have to complain about everything?
I agree 10000000% but the sad reality is they will cry till they get it...ie: replicas sucks for people that spent hundreds of mils on something everyone has now the replicas shoulda been tweaked down in intensity to make the originals still valuable to people other than collectors
It's not fair that so many people have 20 more skill points than I do. Just because I wasn't around playing for four years is no excuse. I was at work or having sex or something. Still, it's not fair.
The fact is that even if you compete for it its not garenteed that you can EVER get one. This puts other players at a direct advantage over you no matter what you do. This is what is unbalancing. There are several builds were 5 more stats would be amazing. Anyone who disagrees does not understand basic game mechanics.
Evening out the fighters in a fight is, to my opinion, the basis of a competitively FUN and CHALLENGING game.
When the confronting sides of a fight do not have the same odds of winning, eventually the game will become FRUSTRATING for the side with the worse odds (losing one too many fights...) and BORING for the side with the better odds (always winning...).
So, for those running the game having unbalanced fights is a LOOSE - LOOSE situation because eventually they would loose both sides, the losers of fights (getting frustrated one too many...) and the winners of fights (getting bored because of the ease of winning fights...).
The only way, to my opinion, to ensure fun for both sides and players stick with the game is having BALANCED fights with odds always changing and thus players be able to be sometimes losers of fights but also sometimes winners of fights.
Allowing only a few players to raise their stats CAP is NOT a good way to ensure such balanced fights, IMHO. Therefore, as I see it, it is NOT GOOD FOR THE GAME in the long run.......
But it was your choice to be impulsive and spend an absurd amount of cash on something that came into game like 3 days ago, assuming it would never be accessible again. It's less fair for a tiny percent of people to have this bonus (whether they spent a mountain of gold, or got it from the event) than for them to be accessible to everyone on a more than 1 day basis.
That said, I really don't think this is a big deal. At best it will save someone 5/8th of an intensity on one property on one item. With stat potions etc I do not see it being that noticeable. Though they really should have known people would throw a fit about this.
I will NEVER be able to get a dread mare. My tamer is worthless now.
Quite a LOT of players who happened not to be able to attend the limited time Event because of other real life issues, would like to know when and how they will ALSO be able to get their +5 Scroll of Valiant Commendation.
Could you please be so kind to address these players concerns and let them know how else the +5 Scroll of Valiant Commendation can be obtained ?
Thank you very much.
Actually, mr. virtualhabitat, a better analogy might be to say that you will never be able to get a greater dragon, and therefore your tamer is worthless. However, in actuality, neither analogy is a very good one.
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*wonders when they will finally get a smiley that is laying on the floor kicking it's feet around, crying and turning blue from holding it's breath*
They ever get one I'm gonna use it ALOT
They ever get one I'm gonna use it ALOT
I've been married for 15 years....can I trade in three years of UO for sex again?
I think both examples are extreme honestly. Dread mares were actually a pretty big advantage in pvp far more than 5 extra stat points.
well, considering the rampant inflation in UO I would say the exchange rate of UO time for sex time is (3.0 : 0.0833) -that's three years of UO time for one month of sex time.I've been married for 15 years....can I trade in three years of UO for sex again?
I remember the good ole days when you could trade one year of UO time for six months of sex time.
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dreadmares are even worse, that's true...but that's like saying getting sideswiped by a 18 wheeler is worse than getting side swiped by a bus, sure one is worse but they're both in the same league. Pvp post AOS and ESPECIALLY post ML you shove every stat you can into your suit to even be close to an even playing field, with fights lasting longer it often literally is that last MR1 or last +5 hp that make or break the fight that determins if you barely survive and get off a heal/bandage or have enough mana to get off that finishing flamestrike. 5 Stats is actuallly a HUGE deal in pvp, getting 5 more naturally can actually open up an entire imbue slot on your suit once you've hit the 190 stam 150 hp giving you the ability to put on an entire extra stat your suit may have otherwise lacked, such as extra LMC or some extra mana regen
Yea that way maybe these things wont get sold for such high amounts right away like they always doI´d like to see them introduced again PURELY cuz of the fact some people payed 100M for them...
More might wait and see what happens before buying em
Am i the only one who thinks many sold em asap because they are certain it will come back?
I think everyone who bought one for 100 mil kinda screwed themselves to be honest
I bet a year from now they will be 25 mil max
Unless of course some prefer to pay high to have em early
In which case they got what they payed for
Lol to think theyd piss everyone off at the 15th ann and repeat the aos mistake is rediculous
Sure the devs have made mistakes but i doubt they are as stupid as people are assuming these days
Everyone chill we will have our chances
Its an advantage, but one extra theoretical property on an item is not such a big deal. It might put you over the edge on occasions but it's not like its going to lead to the group of people who got the scrolls becoming dominating pvp nuisances like we had with dreadmares or bestial suits for example. And in pvm... it will probably have even less of an impact, as its not like all that was standing between someone pwning whatever boss was one extra property in their suits. Its akin to being one of the lucky few who have found a clean legendary artifact ring etc from the new dungeon drops. Not a big deal.
I'm willing to bet (assuming this is the only chance we have at getting one) that its completely forgotten by the end of the year.
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saw 2 selling, 1 for 70mil, the other 3.4bil Firm. guessing it's over on LS. I got to go(not on time) for a while - i didn't see anything. evidently, if you're not with the crowd or get separated, ur F*d, nobody knew how to get in where the group was. someone said they saw an EM, so a bunch of us knew something was going on, while we were stuck outside.
THAT is why we need spoilers, so those that trip or miss a hoop don't loose out totally. The 'lost connection' thing,imo, is some one doing something (thinks EM) behind the scenes, freezing you. Those left out in the cold of the desert were all in agreement tho - event was Lame.
PM me, I'll tell you what they can do with their scrolls
THAT is why we need spoilers, so those that trip or miss a hoop don't loose out totally. The 'lost connection' thing,imo, is some one doing something (thinks EM) behind the scenes, freezing you. Those left out in the cold of the desert were all in agreement tho - event was Lame.
PM me, I'll tell you what they can do with their scrolls
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Presented For Exceptional Bravery During The Siege Of Exodus City%
Whom I feel very sorry for are the suckers that buy this and the others like it. Be wary...
Presented For Exceptional Bravery During The Siege Of Exodus City%
Whom I feel very sorry for are the suckers that buy this and the others like it. Be wary...
Yeah, if the scroll has a name on it then it has already been used so don´t buy those.
I absolutely think so, yes, and this, in the very best interest of Ultima Online itself.
Why do I think so ?
Because this game has quite an important part of it which is Player vs. Player.
Now, since the mechanics of the game give to stats quite an important role in determining fights' outcomes (higher strenght means harder hits etc., higher dexterity means more hits in the same given time etc., and so forth) clearly, IMHO, a player who can sport a 260 stats CAP can have quite a upper hand in fights versus players who can only get up to 255.....
And why would this be bad for Ultima Online one might ask ?
Because when a PvP game has most always the same players winning fights and most always the same players loose fights (because of the inbalances...), eventually those players most always winning will loose interest in the game getting bored of winning at ease. At the beginning it might be fun, but eventually playing fights in a game that offer little challenges becomes boring. After all, this is an argument often used to point out the superior quality of fighting a human opponent over a computer controlled one.
But if the most always winning players eventually get bored because of lack of challenges in their fights, they might leave the game thus causing loss of revenues to the game.
On the other end, if, because of inbalances (i.e. no other ways to obtain the +5 stats Scroll of Valiant Commendation but the limited time Event where it was offered only to some participants...) there are players not capable of "catching up" with their CAPs and thus not be fit on an equal footing in their fighting in the game, some of these players might eventually get frustrated for losing fights one too often and thus not see it worth it to keep playing the game. The game might loose more subscriptions.
So, as I see it at least, having a game that does not offer equal footing to players in fights, with winning odds equalized between the fighters, might be a loose-loose situation for the game itself with players on both sides, the ones most always winning, and the ones most always losing fights, eventually getting to dislike the game and stop their subscriptions whether for getting bored or frustrated.
And if the inbalance in PvP wasn't enough, one could also see how having only a limited number of players be capable of reaching a 260 stats' CAP could inbalance PvM as well since a higher stats' CAP can mean a wider ability of, for example, soloing PvM Bosses. And having some players who can solo MOBs but not other players because of an inability to reach a 260 stats CAP likewise, can mean a more limited access to items and resources.
So yes, I absolutely think that, in the best interest of Ultima Online, there should be definately other ways to be able to obtain the +5 stats scroll of Valiant Commendation other than the very limited time Event that it was offered at (and not even to all of the participants, but also to some...) so as to ensure balance in fights and thus challenging fun for players.
I would say don't buy any - but then of course I'm an optimist to whom it's patently obvious that this is merely the first opportunity to get this scroll.
Why do I think it?
1. I have a high opinion of Mesanna's intelligence and trust her to know the game she's worked on for so many years.
2. it is highly illogical that only 20 - 30 characters per shard should have it
3. It in no way compares to AoS when ALL characters of EVERY player who survived the launch got the stat gain, or at least the opportunity to have it - some people used the skill points instead.
4. I don't have an agenda to put the worst possible spin on everything the developers do, regardless of how illogical that might be.
5. I am not trying to get the gullible to buy a scroll from me.
Why do I think it?
1. I have a high opinion of Mesanna's intelligence and trust her to know the game she's worked on for so many years.
2. it is highly illogical that only 20 - 30 characters per shard should have it
3. It in no way compares to AoS when ALL characters of EVERY player who survived the launch got the stat gain, or at least the opportunity to have it - some people used the skill points instead.
4. I don't have an agenda to put the worst possible spin on everything the developers do, regardless of how illogical that might be.
5. I am not trying to get the gullible to buy a scroll from me.
I agree with you.
It would sound to me too much incomprehensible and hurting for Ultima Online itself that only a limited number of players could retain the ability to raise their stats' CAP to 260 that I cannot help thinking that soon there will be other ways that will ensure to players the ability to get these scrolls likewise.
This said, though, I also think that if other ways to be able to get these scrolls won't come up soon, the game might loose further subscriptions and particularly from those players who are actively into PvP. Felucca is already quite barren and I do not think it would be good to see even less players hanging around there because they were not able to raise their CAP to 260 and maintain their competitiveness........
So, at the very least I think that an official announcement, even if generic, like saying that soon other ways will be made available to players to obtain these acrolls, would be a good thing for Ultima Online because it would at least get those players who were thinking to stop playing because of this issue, think again about it. Of course, an official reassurement to players over other ways to obtain these scrolls would be the first step, then the next one should be actually delivering them in a reasonable time as I do not think that having unbalanced PvP keep going for months would be a good thing for Ultima Online.
So, it is my opinion, the sooner we get an official word on this issue from Mesanna, the better it is for Ultima Online.
I hope they do give these out at some other point in the near future, i sold one of mine for 90 million and i may sell the second one I got on the fact that i hope to get another free one and then be 200 Million up and still have a +5 scroll