human plate sampire suit help

[quackmandude]

Ok I have a pretty good sampire witha nice set of identical uber radiant scimitars with dif slayers. But my suit lacks some. I have made and shield and I was thinking of making a plate suit around it. I've seen everyone do wooden suits for elves but I like being human and I don't see any problems with a nice plate suit, also it looks good . I've already fund one one here im going to try and emulate but does anyone have any human armor for a samp they'd like to show off? Particularly plate? What r the pros and cons of plate for a sampire? If it's not medable does it negate MR bonuses? Thanks guys

 

[NuSair]

I currently have 2 sampires (well, mine and my wife's) in plate suits and have made a couple of other for people.

Being metal it negates the bonus to MR from Meditation. But honestly, as a sampire, MR is about useless- except when you are rez'ing and waiting to get back into action.

You'll end up wanting to make a lot of armor pieces to get perfect/near perfect ones. And you'll want to use the Forged Metal of Artifacts (or risk losing the piece to enhancing). You can make the suit without enhancing, but I wouldn't recommend it.

I'd sit down, list out all the arties you are going to use (mace and shields, conjurer's trinket/robe, ranger's cloak, ect) and then figure out what are the rest of the stats you are going to need.

 

[quackmandude]

Ok I understand the negates the mediation. But what about MR from your suit? Does it negate that as well?

And hello man, ur suit on a previous thread is the one im building mine after lol. I like the whole knight sampire idea where u actually LOOK like a tank. But I also saw that u had MI and LMC. Do you run into problems with one on one long battles cause lightning strikes drain my mama eventually.

Also im a total noob at crafting. I no what everything is minus reforging...any help there. Also what's the best order in crafting a piece? Enhance first? Imbue first? I've literally played for about a decade and have never gotten into crafting. Thanks guy

 

[NuSair]

No, it doesn't negate MR- but as a sampire, you really don't need mana regen.

As for lightning strike- I only use it if I don't have mana to armor ignore. That is why Mana Increase and Lower Mana Cost are so important. There are exceptions (like Rikktor) but I pretty much just Armor Ignore every swing in every battle. Well, that or Whirl Wind. Mana is only a problem if I get Mana Vampired or get some unlucky rolls (the amount of mana leached is random). I want my mana at least equal to the amount I need to AI twice at double the cost. So, that is like 48 mana. Really, if you haven't played one before, playing a sampire is really different than playing any other template (or at least the way I do it!).

As for crafting, I am sure there are others that are better than I, but this is how I do it.

You know that you are going to be imbuing Fire on each piece. So, when crafting the pieces, you want fire as low as possible. For plate- I look for pieces that have a base 5 or less in fire. Also, Physical. Because plate pieces start with 5 in physical resist- using mace and shields (25 physical resist) and enhancing you really need as few points as possible in physical as well. I look for pieces that have 11 points total or less between the 2. That means that only 3 points (or less) of the Arms Lore/Exceptional bonus are essentially wasted. I literally craft hundreds if not thousands of pieces for each suit I make.

Then, as I make each piece, it really doesn't matter what slot you start with, but I make pieces until I get like 5-10 pieces per slot that I am happy with. Then using a spread sheet, I start mixing and matching the pieces to find the best fit.

This is the order of how I do it-
1. Craft the pieces
2. find pieces for the suit
3. PoF the pieces chosen for the suit
4. Imbue the suit
5. Enhance

 

[PlayerSkillFTW]

Platemail does not affect the MR property in a negative fashion at all, only Meditation.
My Elven "Whammy" (No Chiv, is an old Necro/Swordsman temp that i dumped Healing for Bushido) uses a set of imbued Bone Armor with the Jackal's Collar, a Conjurer's Trinket, Shadow Cloak of Rejuvenation, Crimson Cincture, Cloak of Death, and a Wooden Shield with +2 HPR/+40 Luck/+13% HCI/+13% DCI/FC 1/10% Low Req. Both pieces of Jewelry have 15% HCI/15% DCI/FC 1/FCR 3. The Bone Armor itself has a total of 40% LMC/100% LRC, 6 MR, +15 Health (Caps at 25 with CC) and all 70's Resist even in Vampire/Wraith Form (Besides Cold Resist, which is at 68). He can not only strike hard with weapons, but also with Necromancy spells. I often times use Corpse Skin+Strangle, and then have a Revenant on the opponent too (If they don't Dispel like hell), and have up to 3 Reanimated undead on the opponent at the same time. Pretty hilarious having a Revenant and 3 Lich Lords on a target at once.

You know that you are going to be imbuing Fire on each piece. So, when crafting the pieces, you want fire as low as possible. For plate- I look for pieces that have a base 5 or less in fire. Also, Physical. Because plate pieces start with 5 in physical resist- using mace and shields (25 physical resist) and enhancing you really need as few points as possible in physical as well. I look for pieces that have 11 points total or less between the 2. That means that only 3 points (or less) of the Arms Lore/Exceptional bonus are essentially wasted. I literally craft hundreds if not thousands of pieces for each suit I make.

Then, as I make each piece, it really doesn't matter what slot you start with, but I make pieces until I get like 5-10 pieces per slot that I am happy with. Then using a spread sheet, I start mixing and matching the pieces to find the best fit.

This is the order of how I do it-
1. Craft the pieces
2. find pieces for the suit
3. PoF the pieces chosen for the suit
4. Imbue the suit
5. Enhance

That's pretty much what i do.

 

[quackmandude]

Ok that explained a lot of what I was having trouble with ty. I would ai every chance I get but rad scims have we and bladeweave. What weapon do you use?

As far as crafting I feel all caught up, except for reforging. Does that shave. Role to play at all? Thanks guys now I can't wait for work to end so I can hop on

 

[NuSair]

For my swords sampire, I run radiant scimitars and long swords. I've considered some other swords weapons, but I like having a free hand for potions and the occasional shield.

The scimitar is for clearing spawn, the Long Sword is for the champ/boss/whatever.

 

[quackmandude]

Yeah I just use the scims for pretty much everything, tho I lack a good daemon slayer.
I like to stay in printed caves a lot so my respond slayer is really overworked but it does what it does.

What about reforging?

 

[NuSair]

I've messed around with reforging a little bit. But honestly I haven't had a chance to really get into it like I need to before offering advice on how to do sampire armor with it.

I am not sure how well it will work out, unless you are able to make near perfect pieces before you enhance that are >500 points in intensity. But, I really don't want to comment on it more until i've had a chance to really work with it.

 

[quackmandude]

Understood.

Well ima give my suit a shot and see what happens.

 

[PlayerSkillFTW]

For my swords sampire, I run radiant scimitars and long swords. I've considered some other swords weapons, but I like having a free hand for potions and the occasional shield.

The scimitar is for clearing spawn, the Long Sword is for the champ/boss/whatever.

I use Katanas for my AI wep. If the opponent has a real low Resist that i'm hitting, i'll use Double Strike instead of AI for more damage. Conc Blow got nerfed to hell and back, so i don't really care for Longswords anymore.

 

[NuSair]

I like the idea for the Double Strike, but I am not sure the katana does enough damage to leeching. I'll have to load it up on test center and try it out.

 

[quackmandude]

ok another noob question. when you say craft the item, do u mean just the normal item with iron ingots? or use a runic hammer until i get desired properties? if just regular ingots then i dont see the point in getting runic hammers at all.... thanks for your advice its helping alot.

 

[NuSair]

I nearly always craft out of regular ingots for enhancing later.

 

[quackmandude]

k sounds good man thanks alot