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[UO Herald] Delay in the House Placement Tool

Xalan Dementia

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hmm i just tried out how people were sayin they could keep clicking the tool until you finally get a message to wait to place. well i did it and got that message. waited out that time and now the tools workin. at least up to confirmation, and i have a house already otherwise id see if it fully placed.
 

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whole thing is a mess thats for sure
 

Arrgh

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I would agree with that. I am betting most of the complaints are over prime locations (such as Luna), keep, and/or castle spots. Not sure what else would irritate me other than missing any of those.
I wouldn't agree with this. I met at least 20-30 players on Atl, trying to get away from the Ghost town servers, who couldn't place and didn't have a house period. I scouted a damn week looking for good spots anticipating finally being on a server worth a crap and what happens? I have 8 spots stolen from me and almost a 9th but that POS couldn't steal it because his placement tool was broken as well.

EDIT: 2:20am CST damn near 13 hours later, the tool finally works, the house placement tool that is.
 

Bazer

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i want a shirt now because of this that says " I lost my castle because they broke my tool"
 

Lady CaT

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Yeah kinda weird that in early days of UO, all the housing spots on a shard would be placed and gone in less than 2 hours. Now with houses dropping like flies and low shard populations the housing code chokes and sputters.. Wow, how things have changed over the years!
 

Sir Ophid of Yew

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My House Placement Tool still does not work on any of mycharacters and I have bought hundreds of tools.... and it is 4AM Eastern on January 24th
 

Shakkara

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Rumours floating around about goldsellers flooding/manipulating the housing server with a packetsender so they can snatch up many of the plots to sell them on.

I'd say EA needs to confiscate all houses placed yesterday until this is thoroughly investigated. If there's any truth to the rumour, its a very serious issue.
 

Viper09

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Rumours floating around about goldsellers flooding/manipulating the housing server with a packetsender so they can snatch up many of the plots to sell them on.

I'd say EA needs to confiscate all houses placed yesterday until this is thoroughly investigated. If there's any truth to the rumour, its a very serious issue.
Most odd-ball thing I've heard today. It doesn't even make sense on any level.
 

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Not totally impossible... only thing is they would have to time the packets so that they can place a house. That would be very tricky. Would also explain the severe lag and atlantic going down. Improbable yes impossible no.
 

aoLOLita

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An alien abducted me from the same knoll that the JFK conspirators were really on and informed me - after a most intrusive probing ! - that the Promoter aka Rebel, was part of the Conspiracy with mysterious uppitty up Devs to delay those outside the "Inner Circle" from placing Luna houses and castles! It's true! I heard it from an impeccable source - a friend of a friend who heard it from a friend of his friend... who ...

Or maybe it was just Lag-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g from most of the UO player base logging on for "the evnet" ?
 

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Not totally impossible... only thing is they would have to time the packets so that they can place a house. That would be very tricky. Would also explain the severe lag and atlantic going down. Improbable yes impossible no.
Well, lag can easily be explained by numerous things like the high amount of houses dropping, items dropping, people attempting to place houses, etc. And that's just one single event on numerous shards :p

Definitely not impossible but extremely.
 

Kas Althume

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For me the tool never worked. No gump appeared. After some tries i got "you tried to often, you have to wait". I just checked again and on the first try i still get "you checked too often" ... so what .. is a 12h wait time not long enough?
 

Elffin

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I just placed a castle on Europa took a while but got there in the end.

when i logged on (After 4 hrs sleep) i could not even click my HPT. then after about 5 mins the menu popped up, i then tried to place the castle and it was not having any of it so i tried a Keep the 1st few times it did not stick but then it said xxx funds taken from your acct. I knew a Castle would fit on the spot so strait away i went under the sign and said "I wish to resize my house" the keep poofed and after about 10 tries the castle dropped in place, sat there for 20 seconds and poofed this happened a few times till the HPT needed to cool down, whilst i was waiting i logged out and reopened with UOassist so i could see where i was with Cartographer. I logged back in and after 4 more place and poofs i got the i got a message saying something like "It has been too long since you tride to place please try again" i tried one more time and plop the castle dropped and i got the message xxx,xxx has been taken from your account and i was up 1 castle on grass in trammel :)

So dont give up, be patient like the 1st post said, and dont let people tell you it wont place.

Elf.
 

THP

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Totally sucks

placed a small next to a keep that sat on a castle spot...

nobody seemed to place the keep..kinda worthless on europa....so whoop whooop...dropped the small for resize and guess what the f**ing tool aint working

I have got a queue of people waiting there to place the bloody castle since server up

mesanna i WILL take a malas castle if u are still handing them out to people with bad luck stories...yes iam!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

BeaIank

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I managed to place a castle for a friend yesterday, but it took several tries, and the gump took a good 10 minutes to show up.
Trading it was also a shore, as the trading gump would take several minutes to show up as well.

As a bachelors in computer science, I can only cringe and shudder at the thought of how much stress the housing server was going through yesterday for such things to happen.

I just hope it is under far less stress today, as I will need to drop and rebuild my house to save it after placing that castle.
 

Shakkara

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mesanna i WILL take a malas castle if u are still handing them out to people with bad luck stories...yes iam!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't want the malas castles, I just wanted the nice plots near zento where I was waiting the entire day, only to have both snatched up by a guy running in, while my placement tool did nothing!

Although I'm perfectly happy with some static beautification around my existing malas house as compensation. You know the moongate circle north of luna? Please put something nice in there, on Europa. :)
 
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Dear EA

You just got 100s if not 1000s of players to relog in after YEARS of not playing.

Then you bent them all over with house placement reminding them why they quit to begin with.

You didnt just drop the ball.....you lost it.
 

QueenZen

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Rumours floating around about goldsellers flooding/manipulating the housing server with a packetsender so they can snatch up many of the plots to sell them on.

I'd say EA needs to confiscate all houses placed yesterday until this is thoroughly investigated. If there's any truth to the rumour, its a very serious issue.
Hrmm but that would not be fair nor just either for those of us that spent 3-5+ hrs. with all the same issues everyone else had and finally we did get to place and it stuck. :(

I mean I have no scripts no nothing. I went without sleep night before, without lunch, without me supper even yesterday, dorking around with nothing working right, for me either, just to TRY to get one Moonglow spot that is not even max secureds. I just always wanted THAT spot especially after High Seas came out. It took way too long to even get one TO stay.

Like I said I musta had 3+ of em go down and POOF up on me, kept being told I attempted to place too many times, kept logging in logging out hopin that would fix it etc. etc. And what I feared woulda been even worse the house we felt we DID place each time it poofed least we were NOT told you have placed, cuz then that woulda made it worse to have the poofing houses *count* as placed when they poofed on us and prohibited us, for 7 days, from a TRUE placement, that DID STICK. So at least it all didnt glitch out that way or be an even bigger nightmare for us all.

[And then the house I HAD there next door, took well over an hour to tell me it was condemned due to placing the new plot, normally its insta like that our former house says [this house is condemned] when we DO place elsewhere, even that took over well an hour to happen/show, on my prior house.

Aside from the glitchy timer *after the wait to place* what I felt was even weirder was even if we DID place, they poof glitched into oblivion, going up, *nameless* not even letting the placer onto our own foundation, then vanished. This too happened to my chr. several times.

I kept loggin in loggin out waiting timers, watching houses go up and poof on me, I even gave up and MOVED that chr. from Moonglow to go check out idocs falling in Zento, Malas etc. maybe crossing serverlines on him, helped me in the end *or not* dunno. Luck of the malfunctioning draw or something in the end. But I placed it fairly, FINALLY, w/ no programs scripts or other junk.

But I do not feel a revert would be totally fair either.
Maybe after 3-5 hrs. of trying I simply just lucked out, but I went thru the same HELL we all did to get that lil spot, which finally DID stick after several failures of actually SEEING the house go up, then POOF on me time and time again. :(
 

Bazer

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welp seems my tool started working again, placed me a nice home on Siege, by infront of the road by the south west innercorner wall.
 

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An alien abducted me from the same knoll that the JFK conspirators were really on and informed me - after a most intrusive probing ! - that the Promoter aka Rebel, was part of the Conspiracy with mysterious uppitty up Devs to delay those outside the "Inner Circle" from placing Luna houses and castles! It's true! I heard it from an impeccable source - a friend of a friend who heard it from a friend of his friend... who ...

Or maybe it was just Lag-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g-g from most of the UO player base logging on for "the evnet" ?
Don't see how it could have been lag at all. If all the entire player base we have was logged on, it still wouldnt equal the norm from years ago...

Remember the problems when Trammel opened? They just can't handle any kinda housing load, evidently.:wall::cursing::talktothehand:
 
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Don't see how it could have been lag at all. If all the entire player base we have was logged on, it still wouldnt equal the norm from years ago...

Remember the problems when Trammel opened? They just can't handle any kinda housing load, evidently.:wall::cursing::talktothehand:
I think it was lag - but just on the housing server... the poor thing was probably overloaded with that many drops, placement attempts, and resizes going on.
 

Riply

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THP don't you own a Luna House and a Castle in tammel
already?
I missed the big fall due to work, but not a big deal. I did
go out and went around the lands trying to see what
would fit in certain spots just for fun. I did fnd the
house placement tool would not work at all with a couple
accounts but would work with another account.
Being that it was glitchy it's possible some people were
just lucky and were able to get the house to work and
also lucky enough to have it stick.
I passed by a couple players on my travels who were trying
to place a keep in a nice spot. But it would not stick they
were there for a good bit of time trying. They said they
paged a GM I said as I was leaving good luck.

PS who ever snagged the red 2 story statue on cheesy
at the large tower Congratz! I could not make it due to
work but there were a lot of rares there, the lag must
have been crazy. Would love to see a pic of that scene
there. :).
 

syndael

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Don't go accusing people. Everyone was in the same boat... some peoples house tools work.. some peoples didn't.

Get your facts straight.

My facts are straight... I was nice enough to block out part of the name.. if you like I could just edit it.
So it is just luck that Every time a major house drops example, yesterday with the castle or over the last year he gets every luna house no questions... ask anyone who plays LS It is a known fact.:next:
 

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I play LS and it was screwed up I had tried to place a house and resize and my house poofed leaving my old house decaying and now am unable to place a new one for 165 hours !
I then had friends who let me use there accounts to try and replace the house temporarily until my account could take it over ...tool would not work! then had other friends attempt to place...again would not work!

So last night before bed guess what someone else placed in that spot! That was mine because I HAD placed there!

Now this AM I have a house that is decaying and am unable to place a house anywhere!

My choices pack up and store my stuff with staff members who have come to my rescue!
lose my house I have!
Then in a wekk or so PAY to place another one in some remote place that I most likely wont like!

and on top of it all after paging a GM 7 times last night I get response in my email this AM stating yes they know there is a problem and are looking into it! And please report a bug!! DOH ya think!
 

Riply

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I play LS and it was screwed up I had tried to place a house and resize and my house poofed leaving my old house decaying and now am unable to place a new one for 165 hours !
I then had friends who let me use there accounts to try and replace the house temporarily until my account could take it over ...tool would not work! then had other friends attempt to place...again would not work!

So last night before bed guess what someone else placed in that spot! That was mine because I HAD placed there!

Now this AM I have a house that is decaying and am unable to place a house anywhere!

My choices pack up and store my stuff with staff members who have come to my rescue!
lose my house I have!
Then in a wekk or so PAY to place another one in some remote place that I most likely wont like!

and on top of it all after paging a GM 7 times last night I get response in my email this AM stating yes they know there is a problem and are looking into it! And please report a bug!! DOH ya think!
Hi sorry to hear sounds like a living nitemare. What kinda house were you looking for on LS. Perhaps I can have one of my charcaters there look around a bit and see if I can find anything you may like. I used to be pretty good a finding spots in the past so PM if you like. Ohh free of charge for the service.
 

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Hi sorry to hear sounds like a living nitemare. What kinda house were you looking for on LS. Perhaps I can have one of my charcaters there look around a bit and see if I can find anything you may like. I used to be pretty good a finding spots in the past so PM if you like. Ohh free of charge for the service.
Thank you for the offer Most of the LS people are great! My problem is I cant take a house right now as my account is locked from housing because of this for 165 hours (little less now)
 

Riply

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Thank you for the offer Most of the LS people are great! My problem is I cant take a house right now as my account is locked from housing because of this for 165 hours (little less now)
Well if you have friend that could hold it for you, I would just go around with them and use the tool and show them where to point etc. I placed a keep last night on my shard for my Dad who just has a small sandstone house
on Europa. Not saying I can find you a keep but perhaps 18x18, if possible
or large tower. Of course it depends on the shard etc.
 

Apetul

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Thank you for the offer Most of the LS people are great! My problem is I cant take a house right now as my account is locked from housing because of this for 165 hours (little less now)
You can move the stuff from your house to horse packies (and/or horse packies from a friend) then resize your house and place again on the same spot. If the house is decorated.. that will take some time :/

:loser:
 

Ezekiel Zane

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Well BS. My house placement tool finally started working and I went to one damn place I had wanted to place an 18x18. It was still open about three hours ago. Now there's an empty Tower there. I was gonna move from Malas to Trammel.
 

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I play LS and it was screwed up I had tried to place a house and resize and my house poofed leaving my old house decaying and now am unable to place a new one for 165 hours !
I then had friends who let me use there accounts to try and replace the house temporarily until my account could take it over ...tool would not work! then had other friends attempt to place...again would not work!

So last night before bed guess what someone else placed in that spot! That was mine because I HAD placed there!

Now this AM I have a house that is decaying and am unable to place a house anywhere!

My choices pack up and store my stuff with staff members who have come to my rescue!
lose my house I have!
Then in a wekk or so PAY to place another one in some remote place that I most likely wont like!

and on top of it all after paging a GM 7 times last night I get response in my email this AM stating yes they know there is a problem and are looking into it! And please report a bug!! DOH ya think!
I am on a similar situation.
I got to place a castle, but it was for a guildie. We were trying to secure the spot and my placement ended up sticking there.
So I gave her the castle and as expected, my house started to decay.
I just logged on today to find that I won't be able to place a house until 148 hours from now and my house is decaying.
Even in UO the saying "No good deed will go unpunished." is true.

Oh well. Time to find out what I can deed, what I can put in the bank, trash the rest and wait.
 
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I play LS and it was screwed up I had tried to place a house and resize and my house poofed leaving my old house decaying and now am unable to place a new one for 165 hours !
I then had friends who let me use there accounts to try and replace the house temporarily until my account could take it over ...tool would not work! then had other friends attempt to place...again would not work!

So last night before bed guess what someone else placed in that spot! That was mine because I HAD placed there!

Now this AM I have a house that is decaying and am unable to place a house anywhere!

My choices pack up and store my stuff with staff members who have come to my rescue!
lose my house I have!
Then in a wekk or so PAY to place another one in some remote place that I most likely wont like!

and on top of it all after paging a GM 7 times last night I get response in my email this AM stating yes they know there is a problem and are looking into it! And please report a bug!! DOH ya think!
You should be able to store all your stuff then drop your house that is decaying and then place one right away, that is how it use to work if you had no house and under the timer you could place still. Maybe ask around and see if it still works that way.
 

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Seeing how UO Herald hasn't been updated on the tool fiasco, anyone know for certain if it's been fixed??

I would like to drop my plot and resize, I just want things to go down without a kiss, if you catch my drift.

I tried a dinky 7x 7 in an off area, and it still said u-named house and whatnot.......:wall:
 

Ezekiel Zane

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Well mine wasn't working on any of three accounts earlier but they all are working now.
 
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Last night was the worst, tool gump didnt appear for hours, but eventually it did.

This morning I had a really scary moment, I decided to resize the house i placed in magincia, it didnt even occur to me that the house tool problems would still be an issue some 10 hours later but it did take at least 3 mins to pop up and then I had the unnamed house/no owner issue but eventually it plopped down after the 5th try, all in all it took me 15 mins which was well within the 1 hour resize timer.
 

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Last night was the worst, tool gump didnt appear for hours, but eventually it did.

This morning I had a really scary moment, I decided to resize the house i placed in magincia, it didnt even occur to me that the house tool problems would still be an issue some 10 hours later but it did take at least 3 mins to pop up and then I had the unnamed house/no owner issue but eventually it plopped down after the 5th try, all in all it took me 15 mins which was well within the 1 hour resize timer.
This is what got me in trouble and lost both houses
 

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This is what got me in trouble and lost both houses
I did what Apetul said and it worked for my house.
Packing everything until the house is empty, resizing and placing again. Worked quite well, but it took me my whole evening to pack everything, rebuild and redecorate.

I hope you manage to fix your house as well. :)
 

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Don't get me started on the placement tool!!!!

I'm so p****d off with it. Yesterday I was trying to place a castle, it would place then vanish after 20-30 seconds. I left it then upon my return someone else managed to place and got the spot!

I then found another space and placed an 18x18. After looking more I decided I would demolish and move it a few squares back to get it where I wanted.

Upon placing the new plot my 1st house went into condemned mode ready for me to take on the new plot.

After demolishing the new plot ready to place it tells me I cannot place another house for 7 days!!!!

I now only have my 1st original house (now condemned) and can't place antoher for 7 days.

Is this the norm?!

EDIT - If anyone knows of a spot for a keep / castle on Europa please hit me up :)
 

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I did what Apetul said and it worked for my house.
Packing everything until the house is empty, resizing and placing again. Worked quite well, but it took me my whole evening to pack everything, rebuild and redecorate.

I hope you manage to fix your house as well. :)
this is what i am going to try ...still packing 806 items to go:-(
 

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Does that method work then Storm?

I had another player place a house then try and transfer it to me. Still says I had to wait 168 hours until I can own another place.

I'm thinking about taking my original place down tonight then trying.

I've never tried to resize though.
 

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Does that method work then Storm?

I had another player place a house then try and transfer it to me. Still says I had to wait 168 hours until I can own another place.

I'm thinking about taking my original place down tonight then trying.

I've never tried to resize though.
To be honest with whats been going on with housing I dont know but I figure what do i have to loose!
 

DJAd

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To be honest with whats been going on with housing I dont know but I figure what do i have to loose!
Yeah right! I'm in the process of moving all my stuff out. I will try to resize my current plot and see what happens. If not I'll demolish.

Worst case, no house for 160 hours!

Fingers crossed nobody places in the spot I have found.
 

Apetul

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Yeah right! I'm in the process of moving all my stuff out. I will try to resize my current plot and see what happens. If not I'll demolish.

Worst case, no house for 160 hours!

Fingers crossed nobody places in the spot I have found.
When you resize, you ARE in fact demolishing your house. The only difference is that resizing will "reserve" the spot where your house was for you. The reserve will last 1 hour, after that time everyone will be able to place in that spot.
 

DJAd

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When you resize, you ARE in fact demolishing your house.
I think I will just demolish anyway. The place is condemned and I have found a new space. Just locked from building for about a week now.
 

THP

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PAY to place another one in some remote place that I most likely wont like!

Errrrrrr there is a free 14 day come back to brit promo for any old accounts u have.....Read no pay....free 14 days....more than enough to place house and save stuff etc etc...or trade decaying house to another old account then back again!!!!
 

Ezekiel Zane

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Where is this 14 day Free come back to Brit for old accounts?

When I click on the 14 day Free Trial it only shows to create a new trial account.
 

Xalan Dementia

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he's referring to how some people reactivated an account and got a free 14 days tacked on. might be for all old accounts dont know for sure
 
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