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GX stays to keep Siege safe from dirty KOC's

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Guardian KX

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The main players left in the game won't support others or a more considerate way of playing. Seems I'm spending 3-4 hours a day stocking player made stuff and not seeing any return. Those of you that buy from my vendors should get what you want now.

I cannot see any reason why a human PK would loot a gargoyal and GM made crap, or take the few decent items that you have. Then not offer a buyback and just run off and log... once, twice, number of times makes no difference. Sure, im the bad guy, god knows how many times ive hunted you down and took YOUR stuff.

My game play has geared everything that I do to get stuff for other people. Muling skills, doing T-maps, selling pets, or cranking out kegs of pots hour after hour. You'd think I'd be rich... but if you look at what I sell, I sell it too cheaply. My concern is getting people here to stay and play.

When you don't have fun playing a game, let alone a game you pay for, then its time to quit. It's sad that of all the crap I have that I'll only be able to bank 400+ items, but then again, I doubt this games going to make a come back so neither will I. My first loss was losing a very good loyal friend due to D-------, causing me to close the Noob Help Station. Second loss came from being killed repeatedly by a member of a guild I liked and supported. Nothing seems to be fun anymore.

Im going to sleep on this one night... doubt ill be changing my mind. Quit for 6 months one time before... just gonna have to do it again, but permanately this time.

Siege P. = One less opinionated person to deal with.:thumbup: And I still don't like thieves and found the event loggers to be scabs that they are.
 

Magnolia_Pacific

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Please don't go - I'll miss your dry wit on General chat.

Also, where would I window shop, and who would buy my treasure maps if you are gone? :p
 

Guardian KX

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Oh no you 'all killed' UO.... :devil:
I haven't played a PvP tamer in over a year. Remember when you were blue and we ran around and you killed me, and dry looted me. I was too busy typing a hello when the started your assult.

Come to think about it, thats honestly the day the game started slipping for me.

Heavenless and Critical Gaming make my point people, Vet players and this is how much they want to keep people here.

Vendors will stand for a few days then im barreling whats left. Hell, 90% my keeps getting barreled as well. I did go out and spend that 10 million on tokens and vendors, so its not coming with me.

Besides ole D-bag, I havent mentioned anyones name. This isn't a cry thread, just a why thread. Maybe Guildmasters and a few solo'rs out there will remember me and not run the next guy out of town. Theres not many people left and the game populations so low it wont make a difference.
 

PwnySlaystation

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Dont mean to be a bit harsh, but isn't the point of seige to be mercilous and kill/dryloot. Thats what makes the shard what it is?
 

Guardian KX

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Dont mean to be a bit harsh, but isn't the point of seige to be mercilous and kill/dryloot. Thats what makes the shard what it is?
If you mean empty, yes your correct. If you mean PK's hunting for hours to kill someone, again correct. Im tired of being killed by the same people over and over. The same one sided fight, same one sided loot return, longer and longer rebuild time due to lack of items that have been kept or destroyed. Me smiling and buy/selling stuff from one toon, just for them to log on another and kill me... Me being quite so they think I don't know that they're playing 2 sides of the street. Me telling them I really know who they are just ruins thier gameplay, so why bother.

Can't sit here trying to justify my gameplay of helping other people when those same people buy the stuff and then kill me. Win/Win for them. Im past the point that spending 2k barbed to make a suit, then spending 1 million for crappy GM add-on's, then spamming for hours to maybe get the things i need to finish the suit, is somehow fun. So my death just means 2-4 hours out of play.

I normally played the defender, rarely the aggressor. No one left to defend.
 

Sprago

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

It was a robe of equinox and a tally which are used by any race and no it wasn't me that did it but I still gave him my only robe to make it right and he's still not happy
This is siege we have no insurance that why we all play here ya really need to get over it
These kind of threads are pointless he's looking for sympathy if he were really quitting he would have just quit

Ohh and I wanna make it clear so guardian know I'm not giving my armor away anymore either learn to hide from him or don't wear want ya can't afford to lose
 

kelmo

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Dont mean to be a bit harsh, but isn't the point of seige to be mercilous and kill/dryloot. Thats what makes the shard what it is?
*smiles* It is a common misconception that Siege is nothing more than a PvP shard. It does have that element and so much more. One of the more interesting aspects is that unless you have a lot of patience to start over or a lot of spare dollars for name changes... you are pretty much stuck with what ever reputation you build for your self. One character per account and a small population ensure that.
 

HoldenCaulfield

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Guardian, while the missteps of your past precede you, I have to say you have been a different person in the last several months and I am disappointed to read your post. While I cannot say that deep down you are still not the person you were; if I were to ignore your past or was unaware of it and just looked at your recent actions, I would say you were doing a bit of good for the shard.

Anyways, regardless of my personal opinion of you, I don't think anyone wants to see another person close their account.

If your reason for closing is that you do not enjoy ANY aspects of the game, then there is nothing anyone can do to help you. However, if you find your reason to quit is only because of a particular hunting spot and/or situation you are put in where you lose your suit(s), then I would urge you to reconsider and instead focus on doing the things that do not put you at that risk.

I hope you do take the time to ponder it for a few days before doing anything rash. Whether it is right or not for this guy to offer you buybacks is besides the point, the question really is, do you still want to be part of this game? If so, losing a suit here and there (although frustrating), shouldn't be a quitting point.
 

Guardian KX

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

It was a robe of equinox and a tally which are used by any race and no it wasn't me that did it but I still gave him my only robe to make it right and he's still not happy
This is siege we have no insurance that why we all play here ya really need to get over it
These kind of threads are pointless he's looking for sympathy if he were really quitting he would have just quit

Ohh and I wanna make it clear so guardian know I'm not giving my armor away anymore either learn to hide from him or don't wear want ya can't afford to lose
Ima bite on this one...

Sprago, someone Pk'd me and logged off or destoryed my stuff. You personally tryed to "Make it right", implying it was wrong in the first place. I see no reason why you should feel this way... Its not like you know the guy, or have him on ICQ, or even have him in your guild. The robe will be returned to you... I was pissed off at myself for accepting it in the first place.

Siege DOES NOT EQUAL Sympathy. Siege = PvP and dying and losing everything. If you don't wanna lose it then DON'T TAKE IT WITH YOU. The Pvping part is kinda one sided fun... Its what happens after the kill that decides if it fun for both sides. MY view or what my roll is on Siege escapes you.

As far as you posting your opinion, its as far as you believing I was wrong'd as much as I believe mines for sympathy. I'm the only guy when I was working as a Temp worker in RL that would go up to a manager and explain why I was leaving a job and not just walk off. Many times I was thanked for being the only guy that ever told them why and not just walked off the job. Me mentioning the "why" was a hope it would make things easier for the next guy. Same thing im trying to do now.

Kelmo, I have never hid who I am or what my loud mouthed sins are in the past. I do not believe changing my name and moving my house will somehow make the other guy change his view. How many tokens had D----- used and you see how it helped him.
 

Sprago

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

I got an idea since its keeping items that makes you happy lets all petition the gms and ask for insurance that will take care of your way of thinking that way nobody ever looses anything ever again.

ohh and I'm sorry this game has gotten to you so badly it might not be a bad idea to take a break and relax and remember its just a game..
Nobody wants to see you leave
Ohh one last thing all this farming you say your doing why was loosing a couple pieces of armor such a great loss to u. U should defenitly have armor I don't farm near to the amount of farming you do and I got a few extra suit FOR WHEN I LOSE my main one
 

Mr.StinkyPants

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

that's great news, almost a good reason to return
 

Razz

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Whether you go or stay you really should stop taking this game and yourself so seriously Guardian.
 

Freelsy

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

What's your famous line Guardian??? Oh that's right....


BARNEY LAND THIS WAY ------------>



"I keep losing gear to PK's :sad2::sad2:. I don't want to fight back :sad2::sad2:"


You couldn't handle siege when the pks were rampant and you can't handle siege with the few pk's that's left. Looks like this game isn't for you after all!
 

QueenZen

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Well sir think over it really deeply. Even when we leave, we are still here some how. I do not think being part of the Siege community ever leaves us
even if we leave it, for whatever reasons.

Population in UO is or seems to be on the decline, for whatever reasons.
And we all know Siege is practically ignored by, those in charge of this game world.

My houses are down, gone, my vendors have been removed, some few weeks ago already. The business just was no longer there, no one buyin much of anything my chrs. had made and sold and restocked daily once upon a time
they *I* as all of my chrs. were extremely busy here.

That was my lil joy, makin stuff for folks stuff folks needed even if it only was mostly carpentry items and scribed goods, or bbq whole hog. :)

Something happened folks left business dwindled. I have played on Siege since 2004, and been also on Chesapeake clear back to 1998. My vendors there are still extremely busy. Yet every day, my brain cells can't help but
wish...my fish quest fishes or tables chairs or gate scrolls were selling out yet HERE. They no longer did sell out here, for whatever reasons, and my reasons for having some purpose here dwindled to oblivion with the lack of sales. :(

Yet every day I log in to UO, even if not here, my brain says..ya know Miranda could make this way better than..this chr.*on that other shard* !

:(

We can leave Siege, but Siege, I do not believe, will EVER LEAVE US.

It is unique unto itself Siege Perilous, :heart: so think really hard sir,
cuz it stays in our mind and our heart no matter where we TRY to go
elsewhere in UO to remain BUSY in UO...it is not here. The alternative
is leaving UO for good...and that may be even harder to try to do !

Anyhow, think it all over, and over again !

But if there is like nothing left for ye to DO here any longer,
it then is not that difficult to leave, or TRY to, to find busy somewhere else, but no where else IS Siege, either.

And as for some folk that put a burr under ye saddle, :) they probably DO that cuz they know it ticks ya off, once ye remove their control over YOUR emotions, then THEY not YOU, end up, quite deflated. When *professional button pushers, find they no longer can get a rise out of some one any one, they look for some one else's buttons to push. Neva let anyone else, push ye buttons !! :)
That gives someone else Control, never let, no one, do that to ya ever, least not for more than a few moments if ya do let them tick ya off, never let it last inside ya nor eat ya up, or they win !

Human psychology major here...old lady, signing out ! :pancakes::pint:

:)
 

QueenZen

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Sprago: I think petitioning for insurance on Siege, well hrmm I CAME HERE back in 2004 cuz Siege had no insurance ! :)

To me insurance was the stupidest dorky thing ever added to Ultima Online.
But then I began playing UO before there ever was that other dorky invention called....trammel. :)

And even today...even if I AM on Chesapeake, um like yesterday, seen this GLORIOUS LADY.... and I clicked on her paper dolly...her sandals were plain cow hide, dyed white with new leather dye tub and INSURED !

I cracked up laughing !! I don't get it. I do know once insurance hits a shard,
seems folks insure EVERYTHING, worse than they insure stuff in RL even, like some insane crazy pixel addiction afraid to lose even cowhide sandies with no mods nothing fancy...yet INSURED !

And ima like okkkkkkkkkkkkk someone has issues bout losin even stupid junk !!

LOL

I still refuse to insure dorky stuff or just about anything at all even THERE .. insurance just seems paranoia to me it is afterall just pixels . .

but yeh nowadays with pricier suits I guess insurance least makes some sense for GOD SUIT$$$, costly to remake or replace
but...sandals too... whatever !!

*edits* I also had 2 wonderful thief chrs. on Chesapeake back in the day, then insurance and trammel hit, :( still have those two guy chrs. and they been on the thief unemployment line ever since ..they refuse to be crate thieves !! Was so much fun pilfering folks stuff, out of their backpacks and so forth and or pkin em to sneak a goodie from their bodies, back WHEN THERE WAS NO INSURANCE\ noTrammel. I would hate to see Siege thieves end up like my old school Chesapeake ones have ended up..out of work !*
My 2 poor guys, unemployed, for many a yr., over there.

Some peeps are just too paranoid to lose even cowhide sandals, what those take 3 hides of plain old goat or cow ! ?

Hardly worth insuring but they DO even for those !
Once insurance hits it's like some insane addiction phere to lose even JUNKwear !

Perhaps I will never fathom INSURANCE !
Twas why I came HERE in the first place NO insurance ! :)

Ima just too old school, I guess.
 
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Elmer Fudd

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

What's your famous line Guardian??? Oh that's right....


BARNEY LAND THIS WAY ------------>



"I keep losing gear to PK's :sad2::sad2:. I don't want to fight back :sad2::sad2:"


You couldn't handle siege when the pks were rampant and you can't handle siege with the few pk's that's left. Looks like this game isn't for you after all!

Hell...with this good news, I might consider making a come back to siege...WOOT WOOT...and im damn serious....this thread actually has given me motivation to come back, cause if the pking is good enough again to drive this long time terd away....its good enough for me to come back and take and loose gear again,,,,why not....any guilds out their needing an old school pk?


Da Fudd Baby!!!!!!:party:
 

Faenwen

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

PK's are allways welcome on Siege its fun to fight back! *winks*
 

Guardian KX

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Extremely large outpouring of community support that I had no idea really was here or cared. Including Kelmo who I had thought would be happy to see me go.

Several PM's from different people including Tina Tink. (And Tina I agree with every single thing you said, my days are numbered, likely few left. Im secretly wanting to lose this addiction as well, but we all need SOMETHING to keep us busy).

One comment above me from a KOC and one conversation with one in game. They need not be mentioned, but if me being here keeps them away then im also keeping everyone safe from (thier) known acts.

Speaking of which... Had a conservation with Righty at his classy deco'd castle. He told me about a time when Wavace repaired his Inquis gloves, and forgot to rebless um. I think that was the boost I needed to keep me around. I did ask if I could try them on and we had a good laugh over that one.

Magnolia would be lost without me as well. Cannot allow her house to be cluttered with useless maps. =-]

Razz... no one takes me seriously... Seriously dude.:dunce:

Finally Sprago... yup, next time im just leaving and posting nada. You can answer the questions about why I left and where I went.

Freelsy... Major Cry Thread CLOSED.
 

Critical Gaming

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Lol. Who didn't see that coming since the first post?

Why is it that once every few months you cry walls of text about leaving (all the while making it a point that you're not crying) until enough people feel bad for you that you decide to stay?

I mean, you're kind of ridiculous. Don't be the needy type!!! :heart::heart:
 

Magnolia_Pacific

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You're saying you're staying after i blew my wealth buying all that stuff from your vendors? I want a refund!

Nah, just kidding. Really glad that you are staying. :D
 

Tina Small

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Several PM's from different people including Tina Tink. (And Tina I agree with every single thing you said, my days are numbered, likely few left. Im secretly wanting to lose this addiction as well, but we all need SOMETHING to keep us busy).
Just to clarify, I'm not and never have been "Tina Tink." In-game, you knew my Siege characters as Margrette, Carolyn, Regina, Madelyn, and Regina.

Good luck and best wishes to you and the rest of Siege's players!

*Edit: It's too early, brain is tired from studying so much, no coffee yet, and the UO part of my brain is apparently already growing cobwebs. That list of names is off. My Siege ladies were Margrette, Carolyn, Luisa, Madeline, and Regina. Sorry if I caused ye any confusion. And even though you're staying, think on what I said, Guardian. Is UO really a good investment for anyone's time, money, and talents? Only you can decide the answer for YOU. Good luck.

*Wanders off in search of strong coffee.*
 

Sprago

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

Sprago: I think petitioning for insurance on Siege, well hrmm I CAME HERE back in 2004 cuz Siege had no insurance ! :)

To me insurance was the stupidest dorky thing ever added to Ultima Online.
But then I began playing UO before there ever was that other dorky invention called....trammel. :)

And even today...even if I AM on Chesapeake, um like yesterday, seen this GLORIOUS LADY.... and I clicked on her paper dolly...her sandals were plain cow hide, dyed white with new leather dye tub and INSURED !

I cracked up laughing !! I don't get it. I do know once insurance hits a shard,
seems folks insure EVERYTHING, worse than they insure stuff in RL even, like some insane crazy pixel addiction afraid to lose even cowhide sandies with no mods nothing fancy...yet INSURED !

And ima like okkkkkkkkkkkkk someone has issues bout losin even stupid junk !!

LOL

I still refuse to insure dorky stuff or just about anything at all even THERE .. insurance just seems paranoia to me it is afterall just pixels . .

but yeh nowadays with pricier suits I guess insurance least makes some sense for GOD SUIT$$$, costly to remake or replace
but...sandals too... whatever !!

*edits* I also had 2 wonderful thief chrs. on Chesapeake back in the day, then insurance and trammel hit, :( still have those two guy chrs. and they been on the thief unemployment line ever since ..they refuse to be crate thieves !! Was so much fun pilfering folks stuff, out of their backpacks and so forth and or pkin em to sneak a goodie from their bodies, back WHEN THERE WAS NO INSURANCE\ noTrammel. I would hate to see Siege thieves end up like my old school Chesapeake ones have ended up..out of work !*
My 2 poor guys, unemployed, for many a yr., over there.

Some peeps are just too paranoid to lose even cowhide sandals, what those take 3 hides of plain old goat or cow ! ?

Hardly worth insuring but they DO even for those !
Once insurance hits it's like some insane addiction phere to lose even JUNKwear !

Perhaps I will never fathom INSURANCE !
Twas why I came HERE in the first place NO insurance ! :)

Ima just too old school, I guess.
LOL i wasnt serious about insurance.

Nobody wants insurace but yet poeple cry about losing armor
pick one and stick with it

ohh and you talk about chesepeeke why play there if siege is all that iwth no insurance? is it because you actually like insurace the feeling of being safe i think that has somethign to do with it
me ive tried other shards but i absolutly hate insurance thats why its never spend more then a few hours in atlantic every couple months because i do like the pvp but then it gets to me and i always come back here
 

Symma

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What did I miss? Someone leaving but not actually leaving post? Ah, shame. I had brought a leaving present for them. Guess I'll just put it back in the cupboard.
 

QueenZen

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Re: GX's vendors closing, finished with game

LOL i wasnt serious about insurance.

Nobody wants insurace but yet poeple cry about losing armor
pick one and stick with it

ohh and you talk about chesepeeke why play there if siege is all that iwth no insurance? is it because you actually like insurace the feeling of being safe i think that has somethign to do with it
me ive tried other shards but i absolutly hate insurance thats why its never spend more then a few hours in atlantic every couple months because i do like the pvp but then it gets to me and i always come back here
I know you were not serious bout insurance here, although the concept has been brought up to ask the devs. for Siege by some whom play/played here, in hopes insurance might help bring and keep younger, broke newer players here to remain here longer, but I think nearly everyone said NO to insurance on Siege, self included.

I do NOT play on Chesapeake due to insurance. I have on 24+ chrs. on 4 active accts but only ONE insured item. AND... I had to ask in chat [how to] *insure* an item, it was the new white bow ya get from fishing.

They all laughed, pointed at me and shouted... "lol, she plays Siege."

I have friendships that I have had on Chesapeake going back to 1998.

My alliance is with Paxlair there, oldest player run town still existing, from 1997, when the real Richard Garriott placed a plaque on the Mage Tower of Paxlair there.

Friends/friendships are why I play anywhere, allies too. When I came here I did not abandon nor dump friends going back to 1998 UO either. Just played both shards 24.7 nearly, although mostly here full time from 2004.

And it is those many friends of mine there, whom came HERE, on Siege, to attend the Aeric Horn Memorial when he rl passed away.

Back then there were hopes that there would be cross shard events between chessie and siegers, old schoolers, since many play/ed both there and here alike; or had.
I had set it up for Aeric met Winfield gov. of Paxlair there and then they came HERE. We all were going to do some events for both shards, to perk populations with events to do, then we lost Aeric.

At one time when the Shire story night went to Chesapeake to try to get recruits HERE, I was at that event, in Paxlair, as both Queen Zen of Chesapeake and Miranda of Siege. BOTH same time same night I was representing both shards in Paxlair. . till we all seen hues of grays ! :)

There are game seers placed moongates in the floors of the mage tower there, fel side Paxlair, no way to keep anyone out ever, which is part of the charm of the place !

Many of my allies/friends here, have left UO for good.
Remember all the KSS that [were here], I was part of them, too.
And only time I get to hear from lil feisty Kat, is here on forum. *waves to Kat*

Long gone from Siege folks, and when I see a bird in UO that is a 'Skylark', ya know who I am thinking of when I see an in game bird that is a Skylark. :)

Friends/friendships are why I play anywhere, not insurances,
that and feeling what you do in UO is still needed/useful
and still bought off ye vendors, by other players,
somewhere, even if it is just playing a carpenter, scribe or whatever.

Insurance is not a part of it, not one iota !

UO has always been about the in game friendships we make, trusts we earn,
and having meaning and stuff to DO, with/for our chrs. and others.

And if feeling SAFE was all I ever wanted in UO, I never woulda came to Siege in the first place. For me it is DULL as hell if a week goes by and someone didn't KILL ME, and I get to play the silly dancing dead ghost. Unfortunately even many of our pks are long gone... from Siege too.

Hell, I even miss WyRm..:devil:shouting at me [DIE INSOLENT BLUE !]
 
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