Why not make checks in higher increments?

[Ezekiel Zane]

His point is that you cannot make a check of 100 million in the first place. Nor can you cash it in.

Checks come from gold. Even at 175 slots, the most you could cram into your bank would be 10,500,000 gp. Pretty hard to make a 100 million check out of only 10.5 million.

Honestly I don't see any need for checks larger than five million gold pieces. The checks would be easy enough to make and you could probably purchase 99% of the items or houses in the game. You could have over 600 million in your backpack or 875 million in your bank.

 

[virtualhabitat]

In the real world silver and gold can be hard to carry around. If a person wanted to make lots of money portable, I'd recommend putting it in diamonds. Light weight and very compact to value ratio. Much more so than dollars to gold.

Does UO have a diamond equivalent?

I would say it does, but you have to figure out what that is on your own.

Personally, I like the idea of keeping the penny around, people say it is obsolete, but I beg to differ. The penny has much wisdom to offer -especially to those who no longer need pennies.

 

[Capn Kranky]

redeem a 100 mil check - 1666.67 stacks of 60K gp. Still a bit much more than 175, right? Also, consider you must go by base amount allowed in items ... not everyone buys or has the added storage - like the bloke who just started yesterday.

If a way to subdivide that 100mil into smaller, more manageable checks was implemented then no slipsticks needed!

 

[Mervyn]

I too would like larger cheques, but then again, people like me would.

 

[Kael]

redeem a 100 mil check - 1666.67 stacks of 60K gp. Still a bit much more than 175, right? Also, consider you must go by base amount allowed in items ... not everyone buys or has the added storage - like the bloke who just started yesterday.

If a way to subdivide that 100mil into smaller, more manageable checks was implemented then no slipsticks needed!

Or else cashing larger checks would just deposit in the next lower denomination

ie- a 100 mill check would give you 10 - 10 mill checks

a 10 mill check would give you 10 - 1 mill checks

 

[Cogniac]

A much smaller, easier request: Make the "balance" command count gold in checks, too.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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Cogniac: Open your Item Insurance menu (self-context menu), that shows your current bank balance including checks.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

If you can dupe 100 1 million checks into 200 million in five minutes or dupe 500 million into one billion in five minutes.

If you can dupe 100m in 5 minutes now with 1m checks, by definition if you had 2m checks you could then dupe 200m in 5 minutes.

It IS irrelevant. Dupers are going to use a dupe continuously non-stop right up until the moment the devs shut it off.

I don't see how it's irrelevant. Double the check amount, double the amount duped until it's shut off.

Now if you really wanted to prevent future duping of large amounts of gold you'd also have to eliminate even the 1 million gold check.

Exactly the kind of argument that requests to make checks in higher increments brings out, which we really need to avoid.

By your own logic, though, the amount basically doesn't matter. Funny how it suddenly matters when it's down to 1m checks....

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

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Cogniac: Open your Item Insurance menu (self-context menu), that shows your current bank balance including checks.

Also use a house placement tool. But just having it go with the "balance" command would be nice and makes good RP sense to boot.

-Galen's player

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

Why not put a timer on gold and checks so that you could only save gold and checks in your bank or it would decay and disappear.

Because this doesn't make sense, in essence precludes having savings, and if we hear people talking about how hard it is to buy stuff now....Imagine if we did such a thing.

I mean, come on now.

This is exactly the kind of thing that asking for higher denomination checks brings out.

-Galen's player

 

[Warpig Inc]

Why not put a timer on gold and checks so that you could only save gold and checks in your bank or it would decay and disappear.

Because this doesn't make sense, in essence precludes having savings, and if we hear people talking about how hard it is to buy stuff now....Imagine if we did such a thing.

I mean, come on now.

This is exactly the kind of thing that asking for higher denomination checks brings out.

-Galen's player

Also the new task of breaking and rewriting checks to reset their timer. Bad enough have to refresh a boat. Then again think what the waters would be like if boats never decayed. On the positive side. Have your 100 mil check for an hour or two. Spend it or it decays. Found nothing worth buying for 100 mil break it back down.

Instead of a check on a timer. Buy a golden Cow from the Stables that is worth what you spent on it. Cannot be stabled or bond and has yellow lifebar. Can be transfered and resold to the Stables for it's worth. Toss in a handlers fee and the Stables skims 5% on buying back. Try and dupe a Golden Cow that will get deleted on server daily refresh.

 

[Zyon Rockler]

The reason you would make gp and checks decay on a timer would be to prevent duping after a certain amount of money.

If you were allowed to have $10 in your bank then it would be easy to track how much money you had. If I began to dupe $10 checks it wouldn't matter because they would decay because I already have $10 in my bank.

The idea of raising the money does not really make sense. For example: A hundred years ago something might of been worth 1 cent that today is worth a couple thousand dollars. Alot of things without any value at all now cost money, like water.

So, are we to believe that it makes sense to continually increase the value of money. I would think you would sooner want to control the amount of money or the value.

It's really just an opinion. I can say that I have a pile of 10 gold and I think it's worth 100 million gold and now everyone is arguing that we should make bigger checks so that somebody can buy my 10 gold for 100 million. That's what doesn't make sense.

It would make more sense to say that 10 gold is worth 10 gold and keep the numbers low but even if you adjusted bank space or allowed for larger checks, it would still make sense to set a limit.

 

[Cogniac]

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Cogniac: Open your Item Insurance menu (self-context menu), that shows your current bank balance including checks.

This is not the "balance" command you say at a bank, which is what I was talking about.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

What's the difference between them duping a 100mil check or a 300 mil event item that already exists?

The only valid point I think would be is that they are duping an item and not adding more gold into the market. In that scenario whats keeping them from duping 1 mil checks 100 times?

Well the difference is

50 duped 100 million gold checks can be broken into 1 million gold checks and used for anything.

50 duped 300 million event items... mean the just turned it into a 100 million item.... now a 50 million item.... now a 1 million item.

Event items lose value. And in the end you only have 50 event items not 5 billion in gold.

So that is the difference.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

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This.

No need for bigger checks, after the gold is looted, being simply a part of "on character funds" makes it a more versatile and secure system.

Probably limit the amount of gold a player can carry, but have a bigger storage level in each character's bank for "deposits" (yes, I know the Diablo II comparisons will fly, I don't care).



There ARE some items that actually adjust based on demand, notably resources (ingots, cloth, bottles, etc) and ammo.

I sort of agree. If you are needing 500 million gold for an item then the problem is really inflation. Suck some gold out of the community and tame the inflation.

An item shouldnt really be worth over 100 million. There is nothing you can tell me that is so rare, will stay rare, will always be rare that is worth more then 100 million....

Now that being said for that to work you really need gold sinks to keep some value in your gold.

Besides..... you allow 100 million gold checks into the game. So you can sell a 500 million gold item. Sounds good. WOOPS DUPE. Now the inflation takes off AGAIN... the 500 million event item is now worth 5 BILLION GOLD because One thousand Trillion was duped into the game. Think about it.

The answer is simple.... A game trade broker window or mechanism that allows you to load up one side of the window with what ever is needed. You can go back to it as a player and claim it in pieces until you collect it all.

Like reclaiming vendor inventory from a house sign. You can only get what you can hold and have to come back.

PROBLEM SOLVED!