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I simply can't get used to EC but, I love the map and the character sheet, could this ever be added to the classic client?
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What they could do to fix the EC and possibly bring over more people from the CC:
#1 fix the crash bug(s) which seem to be related to memory leaks
#2 Fix the graphic lag - which may be solved by #4. (I know alot of EC users don't get much if any lag, but there are those of us who do)
#3 Fix container lag/load time with Grid
#4 Swap the game window (where the terrain and everything is shown) with the CC's game window, remove Zoom capability but keep the ability to resize the window. (oh by this, all but CC UI graphics would be moved over to EC)
#5 Fix the graphical issue with containers that do not use Grid or List mode, items look blurry and have issues with their hues until you mouse over them.
#6 Make the Atlas work more like UOAM/Cartographer, so when you are in a guild you can hit a toggle so that your entire guild can see where you are in game, and a toggle so you can see them or not. (I know any champ spawn guild would agree with this)
#7 Keep the default Paper Doll window in the EC but swap the EC Avatar graphics with the CC's.
#8 Give us the CC's gump for Books. (for RPers mostly, but also just cuz they look better)
That's all I can think of at the moment, but those 8 things would go a long way toward making the CC completely obsolete.
#1 fix the crash bug(s) which seem to be related to memory leaks
#2 Fix the graphic lag - which may be solved by #4. (I know alot of EC users don't get much if any lag, but there are those of us who do)
#3 Fix container lag/load time with Grid
#4 Swap the game window (where the terrain and everything is shown) with the CC's game window, remove Zoom capability but keep the ability to resize the window. (oh by this, all but CC UI graphics would be moved over to EC)
#5 Fix the graphical issue with containers that do not use Grid or List mode, items look blurry and have issues with their hues until you mouse over them.
#6 Make the Atlas work more like UOAM/Cartographer, so when you are in a guild you can hit a toggle so that your entire guild can see where you are in game, and a toggle so you can see them or not. (I know any champ spawn guild would agree with this)
#7 Keep the default Paper Doll window in the EC but swap the EC Avatar graphics with the CC's.
#8 Give us the CC's gump for Books. (for RPers mostly, but also just cuz they look better)
That's all I can think of at the moment, but those 8 things would go a long way toward making the CC completely obsolete.
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This is probably more system dependent than client dependent. They've already downgraded the EC enough. Having lag issues, check your system specs and upgrade.
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No... just NO. If I wanted to play in the CC game window, I'd be playing the CC. The zoom feature is VERY useful for me and is in constant use by me. Again, they've downgraded the EC too much already trying to compromise.
Yes.
Try Pinco's UI's map system. It's a pretty big upgrade from the default one and shows what can be done by players within the game's internal UI without the need for external programs.
There is already an option for this.
When they downgraded KR into the EC, they shunted several pieces of the UI behind the CC's "generic gump system", I never understood why they didn't do this for books, although they would need to be a bit bigger on screen as CC's UI (as is the rest of it) is miniscule in resolution on modern (non-CRT >17in) monitors.
this usually happen on moving crate and I've solved it in my UI
there is the cc gump for books in my UI
They could and they probably should. Sadly you will see many folks just want to kill the classic client and instead of carrot the favored approach is stick. It would be a nice question to create as a poll for classic client users if they would like that update.
There is still massively crippling lag when opening containers holding 125 items, so much that Windows says the client has stopped responding. This needs to be fixed by the Devs ASAP.this usually happen on moving crate and I've solved it in my UI
The book gump in Pinco's is great, but books are still completely borked in the EC. If you write in one using the EC, nobody in the CC will be able to read the entire thing. Again, the Devs are the only ones who can fix this.
I've stated my system specs in a thread in the EC forums, my system goes far beyond the system requirements for the EC.
My system specs:
OS: Windows Vista 64 Bit
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad q6600 processor running @ 2.4ghz
RAM: 6GB
Video: ATI Radeon HD 4850 (1GB)
Hard Drive: 250GB max, 20GB free
As I stated in the EC forums, my computer can run games like World of Warcraft @ 60FPS, no lag. Also I am on a Cable connection & ping around 40 or less to the server I play on. (Pinco thinks the issue is Vista, though I still get noticeable lag on Windows 7 on my laptop, which is also over the recommended system specs)
Personally I never use the Zoom feature, I find it completely useless, all it does is make the graphics look worse.
I've tried Pincos, though his UI increases the amount of lag I get on the EC and adds many things to the client that I have no need for. Unfortunately many of the things I dislike about Pinco's UI do not have a toggle to turn them off, nor can you obtain them separate from the rest of the UI. (this last part seems like it would be asking too much - he's already got a ton he's working on)
Oops, true, though the graphics, like almost all others in the EC are blurry, so then that needs to be fixed.
Martyna Zmuir is right Pinco.
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My next upgrade will be to go to SSD for the main hard drive. Right now, 256Gig SSDs are running about $400, gonna wait until the end of April (we get a nice bonus for a project that runs Jan-Apr), should be roughly 50-60% that price by then and maybe get 512Gig for $400.
My next upgrade will be to go to SSD for the main hard drive. Right now, 256Gig SSDs are running about $400, gonna wait until the end of April (we get a nice bonus for a project that runs Jan-Apr), should be roughly 50-60% that price by then and maybe get 512Gig for $400.
The people behind UO at EA just need to write off the EC as another lost cause like they did with Third dawn and their other attempts to try and make a better client, and just accept they have a good user interface that works called the CC, and stop wasting Dev man-hours trying to make something bad work.
If they really insist on trying again after the EC is writen off, hire Pinco to do the entire next attempt from the ground up and stay out of his hair while he does it. His patching up of the EC shows he knows what he's doing.
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If that's so, then why the need for an external hack program to add on to it? I'm sure if the CC is that perfect that noone will argue that UOA needs to be shut down.
5 years in development and it still has major problems. It just isnt going to happen.
Just a hunch, but imo the EC is going to be retired in 2012.
@Tanivar, the EC UI is worlds better than the CC UI, anyone who tries to claim otherwise has likely never even seen the EC's UI, or as in another thread I had a discussion in; does not know what a UI actually is.
@Dermott, while I wouldn't say that UOA needs to be shut down, I would most definitely say that it's time is up as a profitable program. That program cost what? $15? $25? I know I paid that so I could run it on 2 accounts years ago. With the EC (and Pincos), you get all the functionality of UOA (and better in cases of a Dress macro and some others) for free.
I wouldn't be speaking about such a thing like it is set it stone unless I were one of the developers if I were you, and even then I probably wouldn't be speaking about it.HD2300 said:
I think I'll give you a little reminder on 3D clients & UO.
Ultima Online X: Trailer Oficial - YouTube
Ultima Online 2 Preview - YouTube
Notice that no 3D client exists for Ultima Online right now? All we have is the Classic Client and the Enhanced Client (which is NOT 3D). If your assumption were to be true, that would mean not only the Enhanced Client but also the Classic Client would be retired, I'd like to see you try and make an argument for players who like the Classic Client to continue playing if that were to happen. Most who love the CC would quit, no doubt about it.
I think the EC will be around for quite a while, especially if they fix the FEW major issues with the client.
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I'm not expressly saying that UOA needs to be shut down, just arguing against the idea that the CC's UI is a "user interface that works". If that were true, then UOA would be completely unnecessary. However, even the smallest of support hiccups for UOA causes posts acting like the world is ending which shows how many people DON'T think the CC's UI is functional by itself.
On the other side of the coin, yes, the EC's base UI is better than the base CC UI, but the UI mods done first by the Exchange and now by Pinco bring even that UI MANY MANY steps forward in terms of features.
As for HD's post, that poster is really somehow attached to the idea that the Netdragon thing is really going to replace the current client(s). It's almost to the level of conspiracy buffs and supporters of certain 1% support politicians. Just take it at that level... we've already had enough threads hijacked trying to explain it all.
I'm not expressly saying that UOA needs to be shut down, just arguing against the idea that the CC's UI is a "user interface that works". If that were true, then UOA would be completely unnecessary. However, even the smallest of support hiccups for UOA causes posts acting like the world is ending which shows how many people DON'T think the CC's UI is functional by itself.
On the other side of the coin, yes, the EC's base UI is better than the base CC UI, but the UI mods done first by the Exchange and now by Pinco bring even that UI MANY MANY steps forward in terms of features.
As for HD's post, that poster is really somehow attached to the idea that the Netdragon thing is really going to replace the current client(s). It's almost to the level of conspiracy buffs and supporters of certain 1% support politicians. Just take it at that level... we've already had enough threads hijacked trying to explain it all.
Actually with Pinco's UI the EC is better than ever...
Granted there are a few things I'm not too fond of... but if the DEV's didn't have to waste time wading through 14 years of poor code in the 2d client and could focus 100% of their attention on a new client that isn't totally patched together like a kids patch job on a shattered vase then we might get somewhere...
But NOOOO instead they have to keep pandering to the few who can't leave the 2d client....
Majority of whom WON'T leave it because they can't play without using cheats and hacks..... which don't work with the EC.
Most all the cheatting script programs out depend on the old 2d client to work...
If EA had it's head together it'd shut down 2d permanently... folk WILL adapt.
The EC isn't as bad as most folk make it out to be.
With Pinco's UI 99% of the things available in 2d with UOAssist are working in the EC.
If folk got with the century and updated their PC's they might even find like many have, that the EC runs MUCH Better on their systems than the old 2d.
But sadly most cling to the old relic like a precious turd from their grandmother... It stinks let it go.
And honestly more often than not folk say they tried the EC and it's a LIE... they tried KR hated the art which was hideously ugly and never gave the EC a REAL try.
And shutting down the EC and forcing me back into 2d.... Will make me quit.
Granted there are a few things I'm not too fond of... but if the DEV's didn't have to waste time wading through 14 years of poor code in the 2d client and could focus 100% of their attention on a new client that isn't totally patched together like a kids patch job on a shattered vase then we might get somewhere...
But NOOOO instead they have to keep pandering to the few who can't leave the 2d client....
Majority of whom WON'T leave it because they can't play without using cheats and hacks..... which don't work with the EC.
Most all the cheatting script programs out depend on the old 2d client to work...
If EA had it's head together it'd shut down 2d permanently... folk WILL adapt.
The EC isn't as bad as most folk make it out to be.
With Pinco's UI 99% of the things available in 2d with UOAssist are working in the EC.
If folk got with the century and updated their PC's they might even find like many have, that the EC runs MUCH Better on their systems than the old 2d.
But sadly most cling to the old relic like a precious turd from their grandmother... It stinks let it go.
And honestly more often than not folk say they tried the EC and it's a LIE... they tried KR hated the art which was hideously ugly and never gave the EC a REAL try.
And shutting down the EC and forcing me back into 2d.... Will make me quit.
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Well the cheat programs are going to exist regardless of client. If the 2d client goes away, programs will be made to work with the EC, or it's a possibility that they'll just be released as rogue UI mods.
The cheat program argument has been one I've stayed away from.
Well the cheat programs are going to exist regardless of client. If the 2d client goes away, programs will be made to work with the EC, or it's a possibility that they'll just be released as rogue UI mods.
The cheat program argument has been one I've stayed away from.
Poor code? No, just an old programming language I suspect. They need to hire someone over 30 who knows that programming language and can make mods to the CC & the UO programming that work when they are released to the players.
The CC has survived how many potential replacement clients over the years?
I keep hearing the few are the ones using the EC, the many have stayed with the CC.
Harsh words with attitude. Insulting most of the playerbase won't make them true. How many have modified the EC UI to let them do the things that the cheat programs do?
After 14 years thats likely true. If the CC were shutdown though and the game survived the loss of players who left because the game was no longer fun without a good user interface, the cheat programs would just be writen for the EC, and the cheating would go on.
Personally, I've played both clients. Have them both installed & updated.
If the CC gets shutdown or left to get so bad it isn't fun to use to play the game, a lot who refuse to use the EC will leave the game.
A good game is a combination of a good user interface & good content. Force use of a bad user interface and the good content isn't any fun anymore. Simple fact. Accept it or not.
Nor is the CC as bad as you make it out to be oh wise EC fan.
If it wasn't for Pinco's UI the EC wouldn't even be on my computers. He can only do so much though. Unless the Devs get it together and clean up the graphics and the shoddy operation of the EC, the EC will never attract many players.
A better PC, like my new laptop, runs the EC better. The faults are still there though
Nasty attitude, you need to chill a bit.
And I'd quit if the CC were dropped and the only option was the EC.
Keep in mind, the game doesn't have a lot of players and most use the CC. The CC goes away, so will most of those paying customers, and the game may no longer be profitable to keep going.
I hope they don't abandon the CC. I'm one of those people who knows next to nothing about computers and coding, etc. I've always used the CC, have always liked it, have never used any outside program -- not even UO Assist -- and still get by using only the macro options built into the CC. My computer isn't the best, either, and I can't afford a new one.
Yes, there'd be a lot of moving on. Most of the player base, I'd hazard.
And yet, without Pinco's UI, the EC still sucks as much as KR ever did. In moving UO into the "modern era," they turned it into a WoW-based interface without taking the time and effort to make it an intuitive interface, and without even bothering to understand that 2-pixel-wide polearms do not make them easy to identify as polearms.
Come on. Mythic is only fooling the non-programmers out there with that excuse anyway. The code for the 2D client (not the server, mind you) can't be that much worse than the code for the EC because the 2D client and the EC obviously share some of their base code somewhere along the line. If they didn't, there wouldn't be so many completely identically issues between the two of them. They also would not have been able to revert out all of the KR menus and pretty quickly drop in all of the 2D menus. Face it, somewhere in that mix-up, they're sharing a heritage of code.
I think it's hysterical the number of people -- including you -- who have hopped on the "The EC is the greatest thing since sliced bread" bandwagon, especially given the number of those people who ran around screaming, "If the only client they let us play on was the EC, I'd quit, because {insert excuse here}." Meanwhile, I was hopeful that EA would finally push out a good client, and because they couldn't be bothered to handle things in it properly, was shown that yet again they have no clue how to build a client anymore.
Well, yes, there are certainly a lot of people using a program that should not be mentioned, and it's far more rampant than anyone would like to think. Getting rid of 2D just to get rid of those players would be completely awesome. I'd LOVE for the day that the 2D client was axed as long as it's replaced by a superior client. The EC isn't even close to being a superior client yet, so...
True. Though I would be completely surprised if there aren't programs available that do many of the same things in the EC. If you build it, the hackers will come. Hopefully, though, the EC possesses some sort of system that informs EA when someone overrides certain parts of it or it performs outside of expected parameters. Who knows on that though.
Or quit. Which is why they haven't done so. They can't afford on the gamble that could kill UO. They know, regardless of the vocal minority waving their pompoms that most people are not using the EC and will not adopt the EC in its present state. The pompom wavers haven't caught onto that yet.
Yes, it is. And Pinco's UI, while nice, doesn't excuse a lousy base interface in the first place. And, no offense, but Pinco's isn't for everyone.
Really? Because, let's see... Home computer: Windows 7 32-bit, 4gb RAM, 3.4 ghz Duo-Core processor, twin 1gb Crossfire video cards... Runs every modern MMO smoothly with about 95% of the extended features turned on... yeah, I WANT to upgrade to an i7 for my desktop, but truly, I should not need to upgrade to an i7 to get good performance out of the EC. And yet, as little as three weeks ago, I still experience the same garbage I've always experienced with the EC: Fill a screen with player characters and the stupid thing grinds to a halt. Meanwhile, I can run through Orgrimmar in the middle of the day through thousands of particle effects and millions of local textures, and wow, I might skip a frame or two here or there.
Laptop? Yeah... Windows 7 64-bit, 4gb RAM, 1.73ghz Core i7, with "only" an NVIDIA GForce 310M (512mb base, up to 2gb shared)... plays World of Warcraft for me nearly as well as my desktop (which is why I really want a new desktop... my desktop should reign supreme)... and yet, how does the EC run? Wait for it... wait for it... EXACTLY THE SAME AS ON MY DESKTOP.
So my question is this: How much more modern do you want me to get to run a 14-year-old game that doesn't even have the graphical needs of more modern MMOs?
The same thing could be said about the EC. It stinks. Let it go.
There's no way for you to be sure of that, but you know that in my case it's completely untrue, because both for the EC and the KR, I was hopeful of what they would bring to the table. You might remember (or ask Martyna) that I was a proponent of both clients as I was beaten down with the "ugly, useless, et cetera" comments. But my stance was that they were on the right track (though I agreed that KR's palette and objects sucked horrifically), as long as they kept doing things to appopriately update the interface. Over the past five years or so, neither client has received the regular stream of updates that it needed, and at this point, they're bug-squashing and feature-implementing on the incomplete beta client exactly as they update and bug-squash on the game itself. It's piecemeal and often breaks as much as it fixes.
Ironic, given your stance that people should just accept the EC and get over it.
My computer will run literally any video game on the market right now. But I don't want to run this abortion of a client because it's a steaming pile.
I hope the EC does get scrapped, just like 3D did, just like KR did. We'll be better off without certain people anyhow.
If "they" have been unable to fix the EC's problems in the last 5 years, "they" are not going to be able to fix these problems anytime soon.
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As an EC-only player, I don't think they should outright shut the 2d client down.
HOWEVER...
At the same time, they shouldn't add EC features to it either. Aside from minimal work to make sure that content is viewable and accessible amd that the client remains stable, all client work should be focused on the EC and backported only when necessary in terms of visible content (character models, item graphics, terrain features) to the CC and let the CC live or die by attrition.
If you want UI enhancements, then you need to move to the ENHANCED Client. That's why it is there.
As an EC-only player, I don't think they should outright shut the 2d client down.
HOWEVER...
At the same time, they shouldn't add EC features to it either. Aside from minimal work to make sure that content is viewable and accessible amd that the client remains stable, all client work should be focused on the EC and backported only when necessary in terms of visible content (character models, item graphics, terrain features) to the CC and let the CC live or die by attrition.
If you want UI enhancements, then you need to move to the ENHANCED Client. That's why it is there.
actually with the last version there is a toggle for almost every extra feature, there are only few things without a toggle since there is no way to do it
about the lag: there is no lag coming from the UI, there was only a version that causes huge lag, the current version is stable.
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UO is not the only game that allows ppl to make mods for it. Doesn`t matter the game,if its allowed, ppl will make better UI`s. Why? Time.... someone sittin in their basement,house,office or wherever with no constraints on time can do whatever they want without being hobbled by unrealistic deadlines,money restraints and/or consideration for ppl who refuse to upgrade their hardware.
Yeah, like all ten of you would be a huge loss.
I quite recently switched to EC, forced into it by my computer, of all things. The default setting for my screen resolution is 1280 x 1024 and it won't run properly on anything other than the default.
At that setting CC is just too tiny for me to see clearly.
I managed to solve two of the problems that kept me out of EC before - headaches and sea sickness. One was solved by matching the FPS setting to that of my monitor, at some point someone had recommended setting it at 20. The other was solved, believe it or not, by turning off footsteps. Goodness knows why mis-matched visuals and sound for footsteps would have a bad effect, but it did.
I installed Pinco's ui and I've not looked back since. Yes, I believe that much of the artwork in 2D is preferable, but it's surprising how quickly you get used to the 'new look' they have in EC and the legacy backpack setting is now much closer to that in CC, making stocking vendors for all users no problem.
My husband's pc hasn't been upgraded to one using windows 7 yet, he's still using CC.
We don't row over it! Can everyone please stop slamming each other for our client choice on the boards?
At that setting CC is just too tiny for me to see clearly.
I managed to solve two of the problems that kept me out of EC before - headaches and sea sickness. One was solved by matching the FPS setting to that of my monitor, at some point someone had recommended setting it at 20. The other was solved, believe it or not, by turning off footsteps. Goodness knows why mis-matched visuals and sound for footsteps would have a bad effect, but it did.
I installed Pinco's ui and I've not looked back since. Yes, I believe that much of the artwork in 2D is preferable, but it's surprising how quickly you get used to the 'new look' they have in EC and the legacy backpack setting is now much closer to that in CC, making stocking vendors for all users no problem.
My husband's pc hasn't been upgraded to one using windows 7 yet, he's still using CC.
We don't row over it! Can everyone please stop slamming each other for our client choice on the boards?
When the majority of your subscriber base hasn't moved onto your "next generation" platform because it isn't the gaming experience that they expect, you don't tell them, "That's okay, we're going to continue to use your dollars to fund a project that 5% of the playerbase is using, and toss off if you want us to work on the client you do play."
The only way to get people off of the 2D client soundly is by providing a sound, viable option that does not negate the play experience they are expecting. Period.
And the EC does not do that.
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Sorry you feel that way Aran! I personally dont like to see anyone leave the game! Guess we are just different that way!
Actually about 50% of the people I talk to in game and here on stratics aside from the most hardcore pvpers (who still after 10+ years still only have red characters) use the EC either 100% of the time or use the CC as well.
5% is far off I believe. I would have to say at least 30% of the player base uses the Enhanced Client.
The more people I talk to the more it seems people use the Enhanced Client.
I don't like to see anyone leave the game, either. I don't care which client anyone prefers. But some of the comments I've read lately refering to CC users as "holding the game back" or "not getting with the century" has certainly left me feeling put down.
Dont be sad i have a AMD X6 Processor and a Nvidia GTX 570 1280 MB GLH handleling Battlefield 3 on Ultra fine for hours, but the EC begins to lag after 30 minutes of gameplay.
Changing how? I've set it to 0 and it was worse, I have it at max all the time and still lags. Is there a way to go beyond the max? Maybe that would help, heh.
The Enhanced Client
You want as fast as a 2d speedhacking kid?
Then you use the Enhanced Client
You ever thought of spamming Armor Ignores and Poison Strikes while moving?
You thought that would be possible, use the Enhanced Client
You want a perfect timed Explosion Potion thrown on your enemy?
Our new Enhanced Client can do this for you!
2 Conflag Flame Fields thrown at once!
No problem for Enhanced Client!
An interactive UI warning you, displaying delays on spells, special moves, buffs, enhanced apples, orange petals.
The new paperdoll spy system is also intigrated, you want to know what your enemies are wearing and dont have the time to ask them to drop their robe? No problem with the Enhanced client, you can simply open the enemies paperdoll and look what the enemie is wearing.
New enemie looting system, you know it people packing 100 stacks of the same kind in bag to prevent dry looting, no problem in the Enhanced Client by simply rightclicking the item in grid or list view you have looted an item. Also think of lists are only empty when there is nothing more to display
I found out that 256 was the best for me. This is the default value, i have not tested all values from 0 - 1024 but i can also verify that 1024 is not better than 256.
There are also 2 questions i like to ask the devs, what is this cache setting doing and what for is this multiDataSHARD.uod file?
@lucitus Yeah, only problem is the lag when approaching large numbers of mobs or houses... and then when using Grid, while it does allow right click looting does have a delay when loading the loot window - which is dependent on how many items are there.
New tactic: Want to kill someone that you KNOW is using the Enhanced Client with ease? Load up a bait character with 125 items, get your mark to kill said target, wait a second til he opens the corpse, and then kill him before his client is finished loading the container.
Also, I'll try 256.
Edit: Just tried 256 - still very laggy.
New tactic: Want to kill someone that you KNOW is using the Enhanced Client with ease? Load up a bait character with 125 items, get your mark to kill said target, wait a second til he opens the corpse, and then kill him before his client is finished loading the container.
Also, I'll try 256.
Edit: Just tried 256 - still very laggy.
There is no mobile bar. But Cache has nothing to do with it either, the major lag I get is when new items (npcs, houses, actual items) are loaded on my screen.
I don't feel like that's a fair description of EC. It's a multithreaded client (at least out to 2 cores) which looks and feels quite a bit like CC and has the benefit of actually using your graphics card. On a modern machine, I've found that CC is ancient and laggy in comparison.
The casting is a touch different in EC to CC+UOAssist. It's not UNDOABLE it is just different to configure and a little different to use.
The big hangup on EC as I can see it is a problem with the way it displays fields (para, energy, fire, poison). A new graphics option on fields is necessary or you cannot work fields properly at Fel champ spawns. They day they solve that is the day there's no more reason for using CC because EC will outperform or equal the performance of CC pretty much everywhere. At such a time, I think that of the people who PVP, the only people who would continue to hang onto CC are those who don't understand the situation (no matter what they may have done to CC client). Those ppl may persist for some time, is the case, but at least the EC ppl would have the functional upper hand in pretty much all departments.
Oh that and they seriously need to actually make a Hiryu model and set of textures in the EC instead of the rubber chicken graphic that is there now.
Haha no.
<g> I just stopped taking anything you say seriously after that comment Thought Elemental. Sheesh... you & reality are not on speaking terms with each other are you?
I may not understand how the different clients work, but I know what I like and the CC has always served me well. I don't see any reason why EC users seem so eager to rid UO of a client so many of us enjoy and prefer. I think we should keep both clients and allow players to choose the one they are most happy with. Continually pitting one camp against another is divisive and completely unnecessary.
Personally I love the EC.. Been using it since I came back to UO.
I also use Pinco's UI and I'd never, ever go back.
I have no problems running it on either of my computers, and one of those ain't so great.
But as I've said before others choice of clients doesn't affect me.
I do think the game would benefit if the devs didn't have to keep everything dummy'ed down for the CC.
I also use Pinco's UI and I'd never, ever go back.
I have no problems running it on either of my computers, and one of those ain't so great.
But as I've said before others choice of clients doesn't affect me.
I do think the game would benefit if the devs didn't have to keep everything dummy'ed down for the CC.
You don't see any reason? The reason that is brought up more often than not is the fact that because there are 2 clients it doubles the work load for the dev team on almost everything they do. We are eager to get rid of the CC because the EC is so very close to the point of making the CC completely obsolete. It isn't quite there yet, but if the major issues were fixed and the core things keeping CC users from switching over were addressed, the CC would the no longer be needed.
Which then would free up 50% of the work load the devs have to deal with and allow them to focus more on content.
Haha no.
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There is a mobile drop down bar that shows npcs,mobs,animals etc depending on how you have it set and THIS WILL lag you very bad if not set right! especially when moving into areas with larger numbers of npc's and/or monsters!
here is a guide to the pinco settings
http://www.guain.it/public/uotemplate_pub/index.php?/topic/219-status-healthbars-co-full-guide/
Where is this bar? I have never seen it on any of my characters using the Default UI.
Great argument, I think you proved your point well, I'll shut up now. [/sarcasm]Aran said: