[UO Herald] Publish 73.0 is Live - Beware of Turkeys

[Tina Small]

Just logged on the TC1 copy of my Napa tamer and went to Shame. Took the GD and we attacked an unbound energy vortex. Tamer got pulled to the vortex a couple of times and took a few hit points of damage. Recalled out and logged off at an inn.

Logged on the original Napa tamer and she had the same amount of damage. Last time I had logged on her a few minutes before she was undamaged and hadn't moved from the inn.

Weird.

Can anyone else duplicate this?

 

[G.v.P]

Logged in on tamer on Ches, Tram Vesper sub-server, 24 damage at log-in w/o poison. Very interesting. My Mystic Mage didn't seem to suffer anything despite logging in same place.

 

[GalenKnighthawke]

So even with the new loot in Shame that isnt enough? The turkeys now need new stuff? Puuuuuuuuleeeaaaaazzzzzeeee!

What ever happened to just enjoy playing the game besides asking for new stuff all the time? Oh thats right. Itemization ruined it.

Pixels > Enjoyment

Just enjoy the game and have fun

Got to love people who read selectively.

Sure are a lot of them!

And thanks to them I get to have 2 reputations at the same time. I am both a nay-sayer and a cheerleader! At once!

*chuckles*

Oh well.

-Galen's player

 

[Tina Small]

Logged in on tamer on Ches, Tram Vesper sub-server, 24 damage at log-in w/o poison. Very interesting. My Mystic Mage didn't seem to suffer anything despite logging in same place.

Did you ever copy the tamer to TC1 and take it to Shame (or anywhere else) and take some damage the last time you were logged on TC1?

 

[Pooper]

Seige is a Fel only land. This means ALL of shame is in Fel to EVERYONE (including those who have been playing on seige for the past 10+ years). I don't know any new or advanced player with enough skills to go own shame in the land of Fel at 50's skills and not be pk'ed by those who have built up chars and have been on that shard forever because the new or advance is that l33t with their 50's skills. If a newb on the shard isn't dying in shame, my guess is either the shard is that dead that the vets don't care about any of it or they paid a huge troll toll. Not understanding the complaints for seige. The dungeon is considered fel...last I checked pvping can happen in fel dungeons. So who's gonna be farming? All EA did was make this dungeon the new pvp spot on that shard. Who cares where you pvp at? If you're on seige, ur there to pvp anyways. So what's the complaint??

Giant turkey's, I second the *yawn* in that they didn't give dif rewards. When I first logged in this morning I decided to go there before shame. My thoughts were the turkeys are temp, shame will be forever changed. Turkey's first then. But just kept getting the maps and map pieces again. Haven't found any of the nests yet, but I'm sure that'll be all the same too. For everyone claiming these monster are over powered, there's a simple and laid back way to kill them. Provo them on to each other. I'm at all 120's and succeed most of the time. They're kinda slow so out running them is easy when I fail. It takes awhile, so bring a book, but they will just beat at each other until one is dead. Then another respawns and repeat. Even if there's a group going, one bard could make the whole process sooo much easier for everyone this way. Despite the lack of new rewards, I will definately still be killing them. It's not everyday I can take down a turkey twice the size of myself.

 

[Tina Small]

Gonna try logging out as a ghost on TC1 and see what happens to the original character (after clearing its backpack).

Edited to add: Nothing happened to the original character on Oceania....yet! Killed her at a healer's shop and left her standing as a ghost and logged on the original character, who remained just fine. Then took her to Shame on TC1 and let her get clobbered by a mud monster and logged her out dead. Original character was still fine. Then rezzed her and let her take damage from the mud monster and recalled out while damaged. Logged out and then logged on original character and she's still fine.

 

[Poo]

logged into my tamer on atl.

never copied him to TC

recalled to bank, my GD was lethal noxed.

strange days!

logged onto baja tamer, roamed around, nothing.
logged onto LA tamer, roamed around, nothing.

 

[Epic of Legends]

Haha! Maybe this is their idea of getting rid of bank sitters! [: random poisoning! im all for it! [: Wasn't expecting turkeys to be any different this year, as its been the same for what? 3 years? Shame is nice though. thanks, devs. [:

 

[G.v.P]

Did you ever copy the tamer to TC1 and take it to Shame (or anywhere else) and take some damage the last time you were logged on TC1?

I don't remember if I copied my tamer, but he was mounted on a dread so I didnt check to see if the dread was damaged as well. Didn't seem like it when i dismounted. I probably didn't copy my tamer, it's hard to say. I usually just copy mages or sampires . And for the tamer, it was the first log-in since Publish for Shame on all shards. I don't recall ever taking random damage on TC1 or Origin though.

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

The complaint is that it should be tweaked so the new system dosen't completely ruin the player-gatherer community, which is at the center of our "fun".

PVP is not the argument here, fel is not the argument...

I got more good items in 5 minutes than I can find on the whole server... and they're items I don't care losing.

Even if the bad guys take over, they'll want to sell their loot and the price and all that was there before will become obsolete unless you prefer for some reason some highly expensive crafted stuff that cannot even have the abilities some of the pieces I found have.

You're right Poo for calling me out hehe.. I admit I was a bit... I exagerated... just to see if anyone would take the opportunity to make me look noobish

But my concern is none the less intelligible.

 

[Tina Small]

I don't remember if I copied my tamer, but he was mounted on a dread so I didnt check to see if the dread was damaged as well. Didn't seem like it when i dismounted. I probably didn't copy my tamer, it's hard to say. I usually just copy mages or sampires . And for the tamer, it was the first log-in since Publish for Shame on all shards. I don't recall ever taking random damage on TC1 or Origin though.

If this is only happening to tamer characters (and I'm not sure it is, the random damage at log-in only happened for me with a tamer character), maybe it's somehow being caused by the pets. My tamer that showed damage being taken (about 20 hit points, but not from poisoning) was riding a nightmare when it happened.

 

[Jade of Sonoma]

- - - Giant turkey's - - didn't give dif rewards. - - maps and map pieces again. Haven't found any of the nests yet, but I'm sure that'll be all the same too. For everyone claiming these monster are over powered, there's a simple and laid back way to kill them. Provo them on to each other- - -

Well that's a relief! Thanks. No sense losing sleep over Giant Turkeys! My bard handled them before nicely. Losing sleep over Killer Pumpkins was enough for this year!

Now - about Giant Turkey Paragons,
.. where might they be found?

 

[Lady Tia]

i had it happen to me on sonoma on my tamer.

i logged on, recalled to the bank, was sitting there cleaning out my backpack and loading up to head to shame and BLAMO! (just like in the old Batman cartoon) i took 44 damage.
no poison or anything.
just a one time hit on 44 damage.

now, this is a character that i have copied and tooken over to TC.
and i played a LOT on origin over the last 2 weeks and i never for that on any of my toons over there.

hope that helps with the info.

ill go log onto a few other toons and see if i get hit.

Same thing happened to me on LS, Tamer, Trammel, logged in in my keep, and noticed as I was recalling out to Shame that I had taken some damage and heard that *bleeding* sound. And this was a character that I copied to Test.

 

[Jade of Sonoma]

Okay, just had a weird experience on Napa. Logged into my tamer there for the first time in a few weeks and had dragged the Skills gump over in front of the game screen and caught just a glimpse of a -20 damage number floating up the screen. She wasn't poisoned or anything, but she had just taken some damage.

I haven't noticed this issue with any of my other characters yet. But what strikes me odd about this situation is that this is a character that I copied over to Test Center and that I took into Shame there. I'm pretty sure she took some damage there too the last time I was there.

Has anyone else who has had something strange like this happen had it happen on a character that was copied to Test Center and if yes, did that character go into Shame at all and did the character take any damage while there and was it the same kind of damage that happened to your character on a regular shard when it was logged in after this publish? (Viquire, in your case did it happen after this publish hit Origin?)

I'm going to try logging on my other tamer that I copied to Test and took to Shame and see if anything odd happens with her.

I've started testing numerous accounts tonight:
So far many of my characters are hit with that floating number and damage immediately on log-in - No poison. One was hit with 44 damage and another only 24...
These characters are all on Sonoma, scattered everywhere.
They haven't been to a test shard or Shame Dungeon.

Another of my tamers logged in, recalled to the Turkeys, invised-self and lored them .. no Turkey was deadly poisoned.
I'll keep checking more accounts and characters -

Meanwhile:
The answer to all your questions seems to be:
This damage and being poisoned has nothing to do with Shame or copying your characters to a Test Center.
and yes .. it seems to have started happening after the publish.

 

[Mandrake of DF]

I feel like Stratics is being trolled by UO Herald.

They are 'Turkyfied'

 

[Poo]

ok, check this out

so 4 of us decided to go out to shame tonight.
so we all logged on and decided to get a spellweaving crystal.
so we recalled into brit and we were standing there waiting to see if we could find another 120 weaver on and then BLAAAAAAAAAMO all 4 of us got hit!

2 guys just took straight damage, 2 guys got leathal'd.

and none of those toons had been copied or anything.

now, 2 of the guys got hit 5 minutes later again, but the other 2 didnt.

we where talking and we think its the turkeys!

the turkeys are fighting back!!!!!

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

lolol...

I was in shame tonight...

and I admit I had fun... managed to kill what seems to be the last boss ?

The "burning" guy ?

Is there a harder one ?

 

[Llewen]

All I have to say is, good job on the Shame revamp. Looting is fun, the dungeon is interesting and challenging, lots of reasons to fight on the Fel side.

As for "overpowered items", it's already possible to put together a "max everything you could possibly want suit", this just makes it a bit easier, more fun, and interesting, especially with the new item properties. Once again, this is a step towards making high level pvp and pvm more accessible to newer players.

All round, I don't see any downsides here - other than the rumours of random deadly poisonings... Maybe there are cells of assassins operating in Sosaria?

 

[Lady Tia]

ok, check this out

so 4 of us decided to go out to shame tonight.
so we all logged on and decided to get a spellweaving crystal.
so we recalled into brit and we were standing there waiting to see if we could find another 120 weaver on and then BLAAAAAAAAAMO all 4 of us got hit!

2 guys just took straight damage, 2 guys got leathal'd.

and none of those toons had been copied or anything.

now, 2 of the guys got hit 5 minutes later again, but the other 2 didnt.

we where talking and we think its the turkeys!

the turkeys are fighting back!!!!!

Let's just call it "Mesanna's Special Thanksgiving Gift"... it keeps going and going and going....

 

[G.v.P]

As for "overpowered items", it's already possible to put together a "max everything you could possibly want suit", this just makes it a bit easier, more fun, and interesting, especially with the new item properties. Once again, this is a step towards making high level pvp and pvm more accessible to newer players.

Brand new players can't fight first level Shame creatures without help. Top tier items will be gathered by top tier players. The divide will remain. Will be interesting to see how it gets if they implement infernal bless deeds.

SA mods on any item might create balance issues. Old mods could be capped easy, new mods like splinter, battle lust, and eaters, whole different thang. Definitely softens PVM. Everyone can play more sampire-like with eaters.

 

[Petra Fyde]

Brand new players, when I started, didn't get to Shame till after they'd done first two levels of Despise. I GM'd my swords, tactics and anat in Shame.

 

[Llewen]

Once again, this is a step towards making high level pvp and pvm more accessible to newer players.

Brand new players can't fight first level Shame creatures without help. Top tier items will be gathered by top tier players. The divide will remain. Will be interesting to see how it gets if they implement infernal bless deeds.

SA mods on any item might create balance issues. Old mods could be capped easy, new mods like splinter, battle lust, and eaters, whole different thang. Definitely softens PVM. Everyone can play more sampire-like with eaters.

That was why I said "newer". I'm talking the stage between being an absolute newbie, and being a billionaire. There's a definite stage where players know, for the most part, how to play the game, but don't necessarily have the kind of resources needed to compete at the highest levels. This should help those players.

But as for the "balance issues" you could be right. Those new properties were limited to certain artifacts that were difficult to obtain, and/or difficult to incorporate into a suit that includes what have become the basics for a suit for whatever skills set you have chosen. This definitely makes those more accessible, and will make them more prevalent. However, I think this will be mitigated by the fact that you can't imbue these properties, so they will still be random.

 

[Petra Fyde]

hehe I'm still at that level. I am not, and never will be, a billionaire.
It's probably a good job I don't feel the need to 'compete' and am perfectly happy hunting dressed in a few minor Ilsh arties and some imbued stuff.

 

[Llewen]

hehe I'm still at that level. I am not, and never will be, a billionaire.
It's probably a good job I don't feel the need to 'compete' and am perfectly happy hunting dressed in a few minor Ilsh arties and some imbued stuff.

Well, I'm not either, but I've had a few billionaires help me put together "competitive" suits for my characters. I guess we all have different, and complex reasons for playing the game. For me competition in pvp is definitely one of the main reasons I still play this game after eight years. There's nothing quite like the rush of a really good, hard fought battle.

 

[Kayne]

Tested this weird poison/damage thing - neither has happened to me on either a tamer or a mage that i copied to TC and did some shame testing on. Seems to be a very random bug

 

[Larisa]

Brand new players, when I started, didn't get to Shame till after they'd done first two levels of Despise. I GM'd my swords, tactics and anat in Shame.

Yeah I was gonna say as a new player I went to despise and killed Ettins and Earth Ellies there until I was around 50-60 skill, around there.

Shame is like...the next step, and it's still possible on a 60ish skill char easy, I made a new char on Origin and went to Shame around 62 swords/tactics/anat and didn't have a problem. Just don't go TOO far in and lure one or two off at a time.

 

[Larisa]

Tested this weird poison/damage thing - neither has happened to me on either a tamer or a mage that i copied to TC and did some shame testing on. Seems to be a very random bug

Same..I feel kinda left out! I WANNA BE POISONED TOO!!! lol

But seriously I copied my tamer to test several times over as well as a few other chars and haven't had any weird damage done to me at all on any shard.

 

[Shelleybean]

Has anyone looted items with spell damage increase other than jewelry? Thanks in advance

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

Yeah well because of my old bones and rusty status, I am one of those players too Llewen.

And I like what has been done, for me this is awesome, its fun its fresh.

But I wont be buying anything from the crafters anymore, the loot I got last night is so good I'm still sorting through it and making amazing combinations.

I know, its my opinion, my choices.

Well every "good" item I found in there in 2 hours of play is better than anything I can FIND (if I look really good) on vendors.

The durability is higher, who cares for cursed its siege...

And while I was hunting with my friends last night, almost every 2 "burning" guy we killed, someone would say oh wow this is awesome for a sampire, this is good for necro, oh yes this will fit on my necro, this on my poison necro.

Devs... I know you simply love empowering your favorite character type (keeps to his own, can solo every boss in the game)... but this has honestly striken me too and it got on my nerves.

Especially that a guy named "a paladin" kept dying to air elementals and we had to res him so many times.

Oh no he was really good, a 7 year veteran, but he's not a sampire you see.

overall I love it, i'm having fun...

but there is still this layer of... creepy. I dunno seeing people ALL NIGHT long go crazy everytime we see a legendary artifact (and with reason) and changing their whole PERFECT suit...

Some of the pieces were so perfect for them they simply discarded perfect usable items on the dungeon floor. Stuff I could not even buy with my money.

Yes its bridging the gap, but you see, what about the players who only play crafters ?

They just lost one of their best customers on siege... some of this stuff is so good I don't even really need to use potions ever... there is simply no choice for me, I'm not starting to shell out 100k gold per piece of armor...

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

Has anyone looted items with spell damage increase other than jewelry? Thanks in advance

Nope... to be honest I tought they were a bit lazy in the loot tables, some items are there way too often others never seem to pop.

We looted a countless quantity of bows and crossbows, but not one spellbook. Those female leather skirts, have 100 of them... platemail ?

only gloves and gorgets... when you loot a lot your ealise the RNG or algorythm is incomplete and a bit weird...

 

[Jade of Sonoma]

Regarding:

- - -
"Mesanna's Special Thanksgiving Gift"...

After much research and, particulary after reading about tests done by others, and their DPD experiences, I went back to that original earlier message (above) in my journal. I have a feeling my appearance next to a newly spawned Giant Turkey, and it getting hit with DPD had nothing to do with my character loring it. Thus, I believe:

Messanna's Special gift is not restricted to Players!

The epidemic, IMO, of DPD (deadly poison disease) is inherit in new born(new spawn) Giant Turkeys, and that, as new Turkeys log-in(spawn) the wind causes DPD to be carried and spread through-out the land, thus infecting all new borns(log-ins), including new born(new spawn) animals, monsters and even Giant Turkeys themselves !

Has anyone had reoccurances of DPD with the same characters,
or seen animals stricken with the disease?

I would like to think Mesanna's gift of DPD is deliberate
.. what a clever way to stir everyone up !

Good Morning Ahuaeyjnkxs .. hang on .. I'm still editing here!
There!! Done! .. (I think)

OT a note: the above line:"I'm still editing here" .. is an adoption of a line from Miss Congeniality where she yells at a taxi that almost hits her .."Hey I'm gliding here!" Michael Caine, who is teaching her to Glide while preparing her for the beauty contest, even has to hide his laugh behind a closed hand in that scene! Movie with a sense of humor .. loved it .. thus using that line in my post ..makes me laugh. I imagined how Sandra Bullock would say it.


WHOA .. FORGOT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING:

I believe everyone builds up an immunity after the first Hit with DPD.

END

 

[Ahuaeyjnkxs]

Oh I see... hmm

Is that how the diseases only affect the plants us players want to plant to embellish our community center or vendor house ?

That damned wind !!! it sure is selective !

That must be why there is not one single player plant on our shard... they all died. And everyone got so frustrated with it they simply stopped...

Also it never rains in New-Magincia... I'm starting to doubt the plants on this island are actually plants...

maybe a hologram