Damage over 300%

[CorwinXX]

I have 116 STR, 100 Tactics, 0 Anatomy, 83% DI from equipment (100% with DF).

The displayed damage (Soul Glaive) is 52-64 (55-67 with DF).

I believe I have 100% (Undead Slayer) + 10% (Concentrate Weapon) + 73% (EoO) =183% bonus.

The max damage is 67 * 2.83 = 189.6 vs 0% resist and 189.6 * 0.9 = 170.6 with AI. But I do up to 210 damage (Super Slayer + CW + EoO + AI). It's even more than 67 * 3. Can you explain this?

 

[CorwinXX]

I see noone can explain this, but may be someone can make a quick test - how much max damage do you get when using DF + ConcWeap + EoO + SuperSlayer + AI?

 

[semmerset]

Concelect weapon work weak point,so it is not damage cap.
Ex.your weapon damage is pyscal,but you cast concelect weapon,your damage is fire for undead,not physcal.

EoO+super slayer=EoO+honor(need bushido)=slayer=300%
If you use AI,its 270%

 

[CorwinXX]

In addition to converting damage to fire (vs Undead) Conc Weap gives 10% bonus to damage. This number is displayed on the buff icon.

I haven't bushido and I do 315% damage using SuperSlayer + Chivalry spells.

 

[semmerset]

In addition to converting damage to fire (vs Undead) Conc Weap gives 10% bonus to damage. This number is displayed on the buff icon.

I haven't bushido and I do 315% damage using SuperSlayer + Chivalry spells.

Ex.lich lord have resist 40/30/50/50/40
You dont cast concelect weapon and your weapon damage is only physcal, your damage is a little.
But you cast concelect weapon,your damage change for fire.
It is damage up,but it is not related to damage cap.
Its same 300%.
Buff icon show only effect time.

 

[CorwinXX]

It is damage up,but it is not related to damage cap.
Its same 300%.
Buff icon show only effect time.

Yes, it's the same 300%... but I do 315%. It's not a calculation - it's a number I see on my screen.
I can't understand - why... and I want someone to explain me this.

Buff icon show only effect time.

Buff icon shows:
- effect time
- damage bonus
- chance to get your damage converted (when it's not 100%)

I believe it has been changed with the last chivalry patch.

 

[Bort of Atlantic]

Corwin, can you check your displayed weapon damage when you're hitting something and getting the 315% damage? I'm guessing something is adding to damage in between when you check your damage tooltip to when you're actually doing damage (consecrate, divine fury, str potion, etc).

 

[Mirt]

Consecrate Weapon will add damage increase if your at 120 Chiv since the most recent patch. That being said I am unaware of anyway to go above the 300% cap.

 

[semmerset]

Consecrate weapon have damage bonus,it high chivary need.
Chivary 91 (1%) to chivary 120(15%).

Even if the damage is over 300% by calculation, damage has only 300% in fact.
I dont understand chiv84 and 120 difference,so I have bushido,my chivary 120 back to stone...

 

[Mirt]

Your correct semmerset that there is a hard cap of 300% on damage increase. I generally enjoy being able to add to that with 120 chiv since the change. It may be a case of me trying to make lemonade after the chiv nerf. I do find that that bonus is nice if I can use where that was to up other mods on my suits.

 

[CorwinXX]

Corwin, can you check your displayed weapon damage when you're hitting something and getting the 315% damage? I'm guessing something is adding to damage in between when you check your damage tooltip to when you're actually doing damage (consecrate, divine fury, str potion, etc).

Ok, I'll check it once more to absolutly sure.

I believe DF bonus is added to bonus from equipment and capped by 100%. Is it true?

I don't use potions or any stats buff spells.
I allways use ConcWeap, DF, EoO, Enchant (mystic spell).
Enchant adds "hit spell" effect and SC to my weapon.

 

[CorwinXX]

Corwin, can you check your displayed weapon damage when you're hitting something and getting the 315% damage? I'm guessing something is adding to damage in between when you check your damage tooltip to when you're actually doing damage (consecrate, divine fury, str potion, etc).

I had 55-67 displayed. Full health or damaged, with enchant or without it - my max damage is 210.

 

[Gorbs]

Is this classic client or enhanced client? I've never trusted the display completely. One reason is that (classic client) when I'm lumberjacking the displayed damage on my character sometimes changes when the char weight changes.

 

[CorwinXX]

Enchanted client.
If you calculate or use a calculator (http://uo.stratics.com/content/arms-armor/combat.php#damage) you get the same numbers (55-67) for my stats.

 

[Bort of Atlantic]

You weren't fighting arctic ogre lords and using consecrate weapon were you (up to -10% fire resist)? I don't know if that would put you at damage over 300%, but it could possibly explain it.

I'm curious if your display is off as someone mentioned, especially because you're reporting EoO providing a 73% damage bonus when Logrus stated the cap is 64% at 120 (if this has changed, I'd love to know about it):

Enemy of One:
Max Bonus Damage: 64% PvM

I don't think berserk goes past any caps, so that's probably not it, either. A strength boost would put soul glaive max damage at 70 with the given stats and skills you list, though.

It sounds like we could use a screenshot of skills, buffs, displayed weapon damage, weapon and equipment, and an armor ignore doing 210 at the same time as character stats are displayed. I don't think we have quite enough information to determine where there's a discrepancy.

 

[Klapauc]

You weren't fighting arctic ogre lords and using consecrate weapon were you (up to -10% fire resist)? I don't know if that would put you at damage over 300%, but it could possibly explain it.

I'm curious if your display is off as someone mentioned, especially because you're reporting EoO providing a 73% damage bonus when Logrus stated the cap is 64% at 120 (if this has changed, I'd love to know about it):

Enemy of One:
Max Bonus Damage: 64% PvM

I don't think berserk goes past any caps, so that's probably not it, either. A strength boost would put soul glaive max damage at 70 with the given stats and skills you list, though.

It sounds like we could use a screenshot of skills, buffs, displayed weapon damage, weapon and equipment, and an armor ignore doing 210 at the same time as character stats are displayed. I don't think we have quite enough information to determine where there's a discrepancy.

Berserk counts toward 100 di from items and doesnt get you over cap.
Eoo is 82% at 120 now.
Stone form also gives a damage bonus.
Maybe there is a bug in current ai damage calculation that gives you bit more than it should.

Update:
Just tested it. Damage displayed in stat window 65-80 , dragon slayer , eoo. Should cap at 240, seen damage numbers up to 249 from ai. 80 chiv, no divine fury or consecrate, not in berserk state.
Never noticed that with melee skills.
Maybe it has something to do with the sweet spot for throwing giving slightly higher damage than what is displayed in stat window.