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Is this to be a Sacred Memorial ... or merely another meaningless 6 hour time waster?
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Have to agree there Elladan. It was a dreadful waste the other night. And one person got 3 of the 5 rewards( which was interesting).
Attendance is not compulsory if you would rather do something else.
Amber,
I and I believe many others want to attend. However, recent EM Events have been poorly designed, poorly thought out, and unworthy of Players time and efforts.
We are merely asking and encouraging the EM's to step back reconsider, and then plan and launch events folks can enjoy.
Just as attendance isn't compulsory, neither are you required to contribute any useful comment, but it would be preferable.
BajaElladan
I and I believe many others want to attend. However, recent EM Events have been poorly designed, poorly thought out, and unworthy of Players time and efforts.
We are merely asking and encouraging the EM's to step back reconsider, and then plan and launch events folks can enjoy.
Just as attendance isn't compulsory, neither are you required to contribute any useful comment, but it would be preferable.
BajaElladan
Dar the event was pretty straight-forward: A High Councillor was kidnapped and players had to save her. There was a fair bit of puzzle thrown in with mobs and there was resolution in the end. For an event meant to introduce a RPC to the world, I thought it did its job quite well
Also, there were plenty of clues to be picked up that will have major implications further down the road. That is, if you were paying attention. In fact, every event since the new arc has been announced has been dropping clues which will be connected later on. We have given much thought to events running through the entire arc. However, this arc will probably run for at least 6 more months and is going to be connected with major global events in the future. So, you will just have to be patient as the buildup to the crescendo is going to be slow for the time being. We are only at pre-pre-game show right now.
The only thing that was wrong with it was that it took too long to fight the final bosses. However, the mobs were designed for a crowd of 40-50, not 15-20. Actually, our original plan was to have it divided over two different events. But, when we saw how well everyone was working together to solve the puzzle, we decided to combine it at the last minute as we felt that they would appreciate going all the way through.
Also, there were plenty of clues to be picked up that will have major implications further down the road. That is, if you were paying attention. In fact, every event since the new arc has been announced has been dropping clues which will be connected later on. We have given much thought to events running through the entire arc. However, this arc will probably run for at least 6 more months and is going to be connected with major global events in the future. So, you will just have to be patient as the buildup to the crescendo is going to be slow for the time being. We are only at pre-pre-game show right now.
The only thing that was wrong with it was that it took too long to fight the final bosses. However, the mobs were designed for a crowd of 40-50, not 15-20. Actually, our original plan was to have it divided over two different events. But, when we saw how well everyone was working together to solve the puzzle, we decided to combine it at the last minute as we felt that they would appreciate going all the way through.
Yours is just one opinion out of many. If you disapprove of something, and you repeatedly do so at just about every EM event I've been to then maybe you should just stop going. Your continued negative comments tend to cast a shadow on the event. It's not really fair to the rest of us that WANT to be there and WANT to enjoy the efforts of those that put together the event.
If you can't appreciate what someone is doing for others then don't go.
Plain and simple.
If you can't appreciate what someone is doing for others then don't go.
Plain and simple.
OOC - I think the event that introduced a new RPC (and new EM) to the shard was pretty amazing. We haven't seen something like this in a long time, and I hope that it's a taste of what's to come. It had a story, there were clues, things to solve and you followed along.
I think the low turn-out was due to the fact that stratics was down. I wasn't even aware that there was an event planned.
In the end, constructive criticism is always better than being downright nasty. Treat and speak to people how you would want them to treat and speak to you.
Now, on to the memorial service.
I think the low turn-out was due to the fact that stratics was down. I wasn't even aware that there was an event planned.
In the end, constructive criticism is always better than being downright nasty. Treat and speak to people how you would want them to treat and speak to you.
Now, on to the memorial service.
Many have voiced reservations and even outright displeasure with Elder EM Seppo both in game and here on the boards in recent months. I have tried to be more constructive than destructive in my critique.
Nay votes in far more numbers than any expected, including myself, may well have been a reflection of frustration for many reasons, but its not a leap to think they also reflect a negative reaction to EM actions over the last year or so.
As to Ambers comments on these boards, I have learned the long hard way to ignore Amber. I go where I please Amber, both here and in Sosaria.
Introducing a New Member of the Royal Council with no explanation of her background nor why the Aristocracy would choose her, and then having her unescorted and kidnapped to serve the purposes of a sideshow mini event was extremely poor planning and poor decision making. Others have voiced this same view to me and I agree with it.
I generally am supportive of the EM program and of Baja's EM's past and present. However, when they are making poor choices one after another it would be a far greater disservice to them not to provide constructive critique than to hypocritically allowing them to believe there wasn't large scale disappointment or opposition among the active players.
I spent a great deal of time and lost sleep trotting out ALL my characters to push Charter approval over the top when at one point there were more nays then yea's which I believe WAS a silent message to Seppo who all know is Captain Jenkins.
Lastly, I say this to Elder EM Seppo, on this fan site (Stratics) I openly chose my oldest character, Elladan as my username. Dar does not post here. And whether by accident, oversight, or deliberate choice on your part Seppo, I'd appreciate you addressing me by my chosen appellation and not by any you wish.
I have and continue to give countless hours and years and resources in support of Ultima Online. I try to not only advance my enjoyment of Sosaria but I go out of my way to advance and enhance others enjoyment of the virtual world I so love.
If I ever provide negative feedback, it is in an attempt to improve our future. Knee jerk backlashes and fan boy support of everything and anything serves only to support mediocrity or worse.
With that said I will continue contributing, here and in Sosaria, until choices and actions by the Dev Team, EM's and active Players cause me to change that course.
Nay votes in far more numbers than any expected, including myself, may well have been a reflection of frustration for many reasons, but its not a leap to think they also reflect a negative reaction to EM actions over the last year or so.
As to Ambers comments on these boards, I have learned the long hard way to ignore Amber. I go where I please Amber, both here and in Sosaria.
Introducing a New Member of the Royal Council with no explanation of her background nor why the Aristocracy would choose her, and then having her unescorted and kidnapped to serve the purposes of a sideshow mini event was extremely poor planning and poor decision making. Others have voiced this same view to me and I agree with it.
I generally am supportive of the EM program and of Baja's EM's past and present. However, when they are making poor choices one after another it would be a far greater disservice to them not to provide constructive critique than to hypocritically allowing them to believe there wasn't large scale disappointment or opposition among the active players.
I spent a great deal of time and lost sleep trotting out ALL my characters to push Charter approval over the top when at one point there were more nays then yea's which I believe WAS a silent message to Seppo who all know is Captain Jenkins.
Lastly, I say this to Elder EM Seppo, on this fan site (Stratics) I openly chose my oldest character, Elladan as my username. Dar does not post here. And whether by accident, oversight, or deliberate choice on your part Seppo, I'd appreciate you addressing me by my chosen appellation and not by any you wish.
I have and continue to give countless hours and years and resources in support of Ultima Online. I try to not only advance my enjoyment of Sosaria but I go out of my way to advance and enhance others enjoyment of the virtual world I so love.
If I ever provide negative feedback, it is in an attempt to improve our future. Knee jerk backlashes and fan boy support of everything and anything serves only to support mediocrity or worse.
With that said I will continue contributing, here and in Sosaria, until choices and actions by the Dev Team, EM's and active Players cause me to change that course.
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canary
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Please read and then re read what I've bolded.
When you essentially rig the votes in your favor (or just what you personally want to happen, as it is well documented you have numerous accounts) on a shard that is already small, there is a definite personal problem.
I suppose we all can surmise how you got a seat on the council with such a wide margin. Pretty sad.
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canary
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Yes, he does post here. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you are both. What you posted was not an IC statement. It was OOC. And you play both.
This forum is not for EM bashing. THIS will NOT be tolerated.
If you have a complaint take it to EA, Take it to the EM's, off these forums. You know how to reach Mesanna.
End of story.
Constructive vs. Destructive Criticism
I stole this from another website and i think it's worth reading at this time. I know it's long but I think it's a valuable lesson that we should all use before we hit the submit reply button when posting.
As follows:
I would like, today, to discuss the difference between constructive and destructive criticism (which some people may consider flaming). It came to my mind a couple of days ago and I jotted the idea down and decided to write a short editorial on the subject. I wasn't really sure what people knew or thought about criticism, so I thought that it would be worthwhile to give my point of view on the subject.
To me, that small difference between constructive and destructive criticism is extremely significant. Why is it important? The difference between the two is salient because, in order to give proper feedback on other people's work, one needs to be able to distinguish between the two forms of criticism. It is important (or I think it is important) because it applies to every form of art. So, you want to be a critic? Then you should know what you're talking about, and know how to give feedback.
The first point I need to make is that feedback does not necessarily have to be positive. Constructive criticism does not mean praise; you don't need to tell somebody that their work is fantastic if you think otherwise. Contrastly, you don't need to tell them that their work is horrible. This is where the difference between the two really comes in.
Constructive criticism entails telling people how to improve rather than simply shooting their work down. Rather than saying that everything is wrong, or even simply pointing out the things that are wrong, point out what needs to change and how they could improve the piece. If you want to spend your time criticizing a photo, make sure that you are knowledgeable enough or dedicated enough to not just point out mistakes, but suggest ways to improve those mistakes. Otherwise, what good is your comment? Without the constructive basis for the critique, all you've done is deliberately belittled somebody's work. If you want to point out something that you think is wrong with a piece, explain why you think it is wrong, and then give your suggestions for correcting it or improving future works.
What is destructive criticism, then? It is simply criticizing and pointing out mistakes without taking the time to suggest ways of improvement. It is degrading; it shoots down somebody's work unnecessarily, and unless you are willing to show that person a way to improve, then [in my mind] you really have no right to point out mistakes at all.
So, when you are posting a critique or even just a comment, keep in mind that you are not to simply there to shoot down their work. What purpose does that serve other than to stroke your own ego? There is a line in the sand between destructive criticism/flaming and constructive criticism, and it has been outlined above, so remember to be constructive rather than destructive when discussing somebody else's work.
If you have a complaint take it to EA, Take it to the EM's, off these forums. You know how to reach Mesanna.
End of story.
Constructive vs. Destructive Criticism
I stole this from another website and i think it's worth reading at this time. I know it's long but I think it's a valuable lesson that we should all use before we hit the submit reply button when posting.
As follows:
I would like, today, to discuss the difference between constructive and destructive criticism (which some people may consider flaming). It came to my mind a couple of days ago and I jotted the idea down and decided to write a short editorial on the subject. I wasn't really sure what people knew or thought about criticism, so I thought that it would be worthwhile to give my point of view on the subject.
To me, that small difference between constructive and destructive criticism is extremely significant. Why is it important? The difference between the two is salient because, in order to give proper feedback on other people's work, one needs to be able to distinguish between the two forms of criticism. It is important (or I think it is important) because it applies to every form of art. So, you want to be a critic? Then you should know what you're talking about, and know how to give feedback.
The first point I need to make is that feedback does not necessarily have to be positive. Constructive criticism does not mean praise; you don't need to tell somebody that their work is fantastic if you think otherwise. Contrastly, you don't need to tell them that their work is horrible. This is where the difference between the two really comes in.
Constructive criticism entails telling people how to improve rather than simply shooting their work down. Rather than saying that everything is wrong, or even simply pointing out the things that are wrong, point out what needs to change and how they could improve the piece. If you want to spend your time criticizing a photo, make sure that you are knowledgeable enough or dedicated enough to not just point out mistakes, but suggest ways to improve those mistakes. Otherwise, what good is your comment? Without the constructive basis for the critique, all you've done is deliberately belittled somebody's work. If you want to point out something that you think is wrong with a piece, explain why you think it is wrong, and then give your suggestions for correcting it or improving future works.
What is destructive criticism, then? It is simply criticizing and pointing out mistakes without taking the time to suggest ways of improvement. It is degrading; it shoots down somebody's work unnecessarily, and unless you are willing to show that person a way to improve, then [in my mind] you really have no right to point out mistakes at all.
So, when you are posting a critique or even just a comment, keep in mind that you are not to simply there to shoot down their work. What purpose does that serve other than to stroke your own ego? There is a line in the sand between destructive criticism/flaming and constructive criticism, and it has been outlined above, so remember to be constructive rather than destructive when discussing somebody else's work.
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