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What the hell are you doing in the bathroom all day and night?

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Prince Caspian

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...why don't you come out and give someone else a chance?!?!
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As most of my income is done from treasurehunting, I happen to love the Dark Guardians Room. They always have maps, every time. Most of them are lower end, but it's still a mainstay for me.

So I popped in and saw that someone else was there. With his several tamed bouras tucked in the corners, and the Dark Guardians room looks like an undead Jonestown, post-Koolaid-break.

Okie doke, sez I. Recall out.

I come back several hours later. He's still there. Ok, I recall out.

I work for home, and for myself, so I have the luxury of popping into UO during daytime hours whenever I want (my boss is cool with this :p).

I have checked on that room probably over 20 times in the past week. He's ALWAYS THERE. Well, let me rephrase that, there was one golden moment last Wednesday where he was gone, but he's there pretty much around the clock.

I'm guessing homeboy is collecting maps for the turn-in. These maps aren't that great and I'm usually good for a month or so after farming the room for an hour or two.

Anyway, I have always been of the mindset that, if you are in a non-Fel Facet, and someone is there first, you're just gonna have to come back later when he's done. Confronting them about it never has a good outcome, and asking to "share" the spawn with a camper is usually laughed at.

I think they need to put a mechanic to stop this kind of insane round-the-clock farming. The monsters need to get tougher if they stick around too long. Again, I have no problem with someone camping a spawn -- it's part of the game, after all. I DO have a problem with someone camping a unique spawn, by himself, for literally days on end.

The worst instance of this I saw was the Halloween Event where we had to kill some tetherans (I think) to get some spinnerets to complete the quest. There was this total jerk there who was claiming the whole spawn as his own, sabotaging other players' attempts to get the spinnerets, and yelling at them for, heaven forbid, trying to complete the quest one time. This was a quest you could only do once, so they were no good to him.

Or were they?

The jackass was farming them to SELL on his vendor. So he was trying to drum up business by being ugly to players and denying them a chance to get the item, but dropping runes to his vendor where he was selling the item by the dozens.

People like that need to be banned from this game.
 

Korik Bloodguard

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It's an open ended world, and it always has been. OSI has always left matters like this up to players to solve between themselves. If someone has been farming there for days, just go in and start killing too. Eventually this might get in the way of his bottom line and you may get the spawn to yourself.

They don't need to be banning more players, you just need to assert yourself.
 

G.v.P

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That's why it used to be great. Someone camping? Bring 11 white wyrms over ;D. Except that would be pretty crazy in guardian room, rofl...

As long as you can handle the spawn I'd just pop in and invade. Every person and pet spawns 2 guardians so as you enter there is more to kill thus more to share, and if you only kill your 2-6 then it's pretty justified. I wonder if there is a limit...be crazy if there were ten people in there, hehe.
 

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Well I can say this from farming Masks... Nothing is more irritating than working hard to spawn the large pumpkins by gathering all the pumpkins and getting rid of them... tirelessly for an hour.... only to have a pumpkin finally spawn and have some A-hole recall in just in time to kill it... and run off with the mask.

I've tried to be nice while working the spawns but it's such a pain in the ........ to work really hard and have someone else take the rewards. I recall about till I find a nice patch that isn't camped... and I start working it... only to have lazy folk just recalling from one patch to the next and jumping in on every killer pumpkin they see...

It's enough to make me disgusted with the game as a whole. Fed up with folk who do no work and take all the reward.
 

Raptor85

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I just kill people if they interrupt me while i'm doing something, or are in my way.

But anyways, that's one of the tradeoffs you choose by doing things in tram, player justice is illegal there (pulling mobs onto them will get YOU banned, that is if a GM would ever show up, which is unlikely). If you want to do the dark guardians, go in and do them but if he steals all your kills tough luck.

Or, if you want decent maps that are easy to get (not as high drop chance though) go to despise l3 in fel, titan room in back, they're easy to kill and have a good drop rate of l5's.
 
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Fayled Dhreams

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I think they need to put a mechanic to stop this kind of insane round-the-clock farming. The monsters need to get tougher if they stick around too long. Again, I have no problem with someone camping a spawn -- it's part of the game, after all. I DO have a problem with someone camping a unique spawn, by himself, for literally days on end.
:lol: been playing so long you Forgot >The Rule< ?
The following is NOT considered physical harassment: Refusal to take turns at spawn points
(not that you even bothered to ask ... from your description of events)
Still:

Be an adventurous pirate
take what you can, give nothing back. CJS

:thumbsup: THAT IS "the mechanic" ... :danceb:


The meek shall inherit the earth
They won't know how to market or manage it though ... :lol:
 

Ned888

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:lol: been playing so long you Forgot >The Rule< ?
The following is NOT considered physical harassment: Refusal to take turns at spawn points
(not that you even bothered to ask ... from your description of events)
Still:

Be an adventurous pirate
take what you can, give nothing back. CJS

:thumbsup: THAT IS "the mechanic" ... :danceb:


The meek shall inherit the earth
They won't know how to market or manage it though ... :lol:
Agreed! If it keeps happening, then just camp with him and muscle the guy out of there! Camping spawns for a while might be okay, but someone else might want a turn too!

Don't be a chicken, give him a lickin'!
 
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Fayled Dhreams

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Agreed! If it keeps happening, then just camp with him and muscle the guy out of there! Camping spawns for a while might be okay, but someone else might want a turn too!

Don't be a chicken, give him a lickin'!
:lol: item Farmer fight! item Farmer fight! :lol:
ONLY thing better is IF its two chicks ... errrr ... Damsel's ...
go to tusseling ...
well, in tram at least ...
Fel side ... THERE the knifes can come out ...
knives and claws and
oh dear ... the language! :lol:

*fans* Whew! is it warm in here or is that thought just soooo HOT ... *whew!*

I need to get me some PvP ... NOW .... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

aarons6

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this is the problem..

while id much rather fight spawns in a FEL environment.. IE, champs.. :)
much, over 90%? of the game is not. :(

i HATE it when someone comes in and starts blasting away at a champ or boss that i worked the spawn up in the ABYSS when there is NOTHING you can do..

it all comes down to LOOT...

i think the LOOT needs to be fixed in tram so that everyone gets the same loot.

the monster drops 800 gold plus an artifact, everyone that hit it needs to get 800 gold and THAT artifact.. not a CHANCE of it, but IT..

that way if 5 people hits it, 5 people gets the artifact.. not just ONE..

i would have NO problems sharing a spawn if that happens, instead you do a whole thing and then that ONE guy comes in WOD a few times and gets what you worked for..
 

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That's why it used to be great. Someone camping? Bring 11 white wyrms over ;D. Except that would be pretty crazy in guardian room, rofl...

As long as you can handle the spawn I'd just pop in and invade. Every person and pet spawns 2 guardians so as you enter there is more to kill thus more to share, and if you only kill your 2-6 then it's pretty justified. I wonder if there is a limit...be crazy if there were ten people in there, hehe.
This - and if he still is an issue, get together with 5 spellweavers, enter the room, and each of you drop 5 of those low level summons, then have someone mass dispel, and everyone invis.
 

Petra Fyde

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As long as you can handle the spawn I'd just pop in and invade. Every person and pet spawns 2 guardians so as you enter there is more to kill thus more to share, and if you only kill your 2-6 then it's pretty justified.
When everyone has finished telling you how to grief the guy, this is the advice you should follow.

The room generates spawn dependent on how many people are in there, so let him have his share and the room will provide yours.
 

Pinco

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also there are thousands of items to turn in, why everyone try with tmaps when there is other better ways? :p

btw the dark guardian room is pretty boring after 1 hour, 2 top. If someone will camp this place for an entire day there is a chance is scripting ;)
 

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Man, talk about a change. When I first saw the title I assumed this was going to be a rant about someone teenage son being in the bathroom and .. errrr ummmm never mind :lol:


Yeah, gotta go with Petra's idea on the Dark Guardian room. No sense in breaking TOS by griefing the person and risking them reporting you, then you could wind up with the short end of the stick twice.
 
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The bottem line is Bards win ALL tram fights .

A simple provoke will get a percent of their damage added to your loot right total.

Enough said?


Take the misima for instance. Yes it is a bit easier to run that spawn on a sampire but... There are a lot of tram fights goin on there on a daily basis on my shard. A guildy will be working the spawn and another player comes in a chases them off by lureing rend or a few reptiloins. This becomes a mess fast. The answer for me has always been the bard. Discord rend and now you can kill the misima faster then anyone in game AND if hey do get a few hits in you gt credit for their damage as well!
 

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"You take the blond, I'll take the one in the turban"

The things my dad used to say...

Did you make a yummy sound?
 
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Prince Caspian

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The bottem line is Bards win ALL tram fights .

A simple provoke will get a percent of their damage added to your loot right total.

Enough said?
Actually I found a nifty alternative similar to this.

I just went in with the paladin. This guy had an area of effect undead slayer that would wipe out the mob in like 4 seconds, so I simply cast Holy Light in the middle of the group.

Started picking through my share of the loot. He didn't say anything about it either.... probably because he's unattended macroing. But oh well.
 

Lady Storm

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Well Petra is right, the room will ajust to the numer of fighters.

And official EA policy is: No room, dungeon, fighitng area is set for 1 player, this said means No one has exclusive rights to any area in UO for their excluseive use at any time. We set up the fisrt come rule in allowing it to happen. Many take advantage of this rule and hog places others want to hunt as well. Sharing is good, but as you said not always liked. I like your answer to it though, good job kiddo!
 

silent

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Pretty easy, ask to share the spawn if you get no response then take what's fair.
 

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"You take the blond, I'll take the one in the turban"

The things my dad used to say...

Did you make a yummy sound?
Oh, sweet mystery of life, at last I found thee?
 

Mook Chessy

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No matter what I say...
No matter what you hear...
Do not open this door!

I'll kick your rotten heads in... Mommy!
 

Mook Chessy

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Ok...I give... I'll say it
Destiny destiny no escaping that for me destiny destiny... Mommy
 

Black Majick

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also there are thousands of items to turn in, why everyone try with tmaps when there is other better ways? :p

btw the dark guardian room is pretty boring after 1 hour, 2 top. If someone will camp this place for an entire day there is a chance is scripting ;)

There are many items...but I know of few places I can get that many points in an hour.

I play the same shard as Caspian. I know the guy who he is talking about will say he is asian. So he could be having a communication issue that way. He may also be scripting. IDK. I know I have recalled in before and after talking to him a few times..most of the time he is very cool about letting me get in an hour or two smacking the spawn.
 

Ned888

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When everyone has finished telling you how to grief the guy, this is the advice you should follow.

The room generates spawn dependent on how many people are in there, so let him have his share and the room will provide yours.
Now, now! No one said to grief the guy, just muscle in and take your fair share! If the room spawns more, then great! If it doesn't then you need to stick up for yourself!

From the sounds of things, it was a scripter anyway, so he would get his just deserts if you took everything and gave nothing back! It's the pirate code after all!

.... or is that more of a guideline?
 
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Kayne

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Well I can say this from farming Masks... Nothing is more irritating than working hard to spawn the large pumpkins by gathering all the pumpkins and getting rid of them... tirelessly for an hour.... only to have a pumpkin finally spawn and have some A-hole recall in just in time to kill it... and run off with the mask.

I've tried to be nice while working the spawns but it's such a pain in the ........ to work really hard and have someone else take the rewards. I recall about till I find a nice patch that isn't camped... and I start working it... only to have lazy folk just recalling from one patch to the next and jumping in on every killer pumpkin they see...

It's enough to make me disgusted with the game as a whole. Fed up with folk who do no work and take all the reward.
While I was doing the spawns in one particular patch I kept seeing the same people recalling in and in the end if I spawned two at once I shouted the players on General or waited til they recalled in next and let them take the second one. It's not as though it bothered me to maybe lose a mask.

Man, talk about a change. When I first saw the title I assumed this was going to be a rant about someone teenage son being in the bathroom and .. errrr ummmm never mind :lol:
Kylie damn you. You did it again. Not helped by thinking back to your little tale about the UO shaped object.... LOL
 
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