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Suggestion for Town Crier

Mervyn

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In order to encourage and help hunters do group activities, i think it would be nice if a town crier would let you know if Slasher of veils, Medusa, Peerless and champion spawns were being done so anyone could tag along.
 

Another Lamer

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Really nice idea; might bring some life back into some of the older areas where few people go. It will also help introduce newer people to guild activities.
 

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Decent enough idea. But, would limit it to Tram ruleset area. No way I could sneak a Champ off in Fel if it were advertised :D

Not too sure how practical it would be, been asking in gen chat on ATL for folks to do Bedlam Champ and nadda. Worth a shot tho I reckon.
 
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Tazar

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I think the idea could be good - if it worked to where if the group wanted to advertise it through the town crier's, they could. Some groups are well coordinated and do not want tag-alongs who do not know the group strategy. Also, I would hate to see a new player go through all of the effort of getting to Medusa only to be told no.
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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Some groups are well coordinated and do not want tag-alongs who do not know the group strategy. Also, I would hate to see a new player go through all of the effort of getting to Medusa only to be told no.
True on both accounts. Certain situations someone who does not know the right tactics can create havoc for everyone. I am reminded of a certain Paroxy run years ago with ODE where a guildy of mine cast an Earth Elemental when Paroxy was 3/4 dead, and boom he was back at full health in an instant lol
 

phantus

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Or maybe instead, no.

A que system for those would be a good idea. If i'm doing a spawn or something and I need help I can always ask. Don't need people jumping in. That's what it would turn into. People just jumping in to "help" when the champ arrives. This has too many bad aspects than good. It could be tweaked but why would we want any dev time wasted on existing content that really isn't broken in the first place.

Or is this just another way to make sure noone spawns when you don't want them to?
 
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Tazar

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True on both accounts. Certain situations someone who does not know the right tactics can create havoc for everyone. I am reminded of a certain Paroxy run years ago with ODE where a guildy of mine cast an Earth Elemental when Paroxy was 3/4 dead, and boom he was back at full health in an instant lol
Are you sure that was your guildmate? We've been giving one of ours a hard time ever since. :p
 

Pinco

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In order to encourage and help hunters do group activities, i think it would be nice if a town crier would let you know if Slasher of veils, Medusa, Peerless and champion spawns were being done so anyone could tag along.
no.

That's would be the loot stealers fest. People who come to hit the boss 2 times in order to steal part of the loot and a chance to get an arties...
 
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Woodsman

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It's not as aggressive as your idea to limit champ times to when you are playing, so that's good. I think it's still trying to make it too easy for people to raid - people who want to raid should have to put some effort into it, rather than sitting around and waiting for something to be announced.

But I like the idea of using the town crier more, specifically Tazar's idea of people using it when they want to. I'm not sure how you could keep it from being abused (people sending dirty messages through it, etc.), other than to have generic messages that can be toggled during a champ spawn or other events (EM events, etc.). It would be nice if groups could use it for player events, but that would involve potentially opening it up to being abused. It would be nice to make the crier a lot more useful, versus a lot of people using GC.
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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no.

That's would be the loot stealers fest. People who come to hit the boss 2 times in order to steal part of the loot and a chance to get an arties...
:bs:

Told you this in the other thread about Champ Spawns
http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/249195-more-ilshenar-champions-please.html


... but

"Your chance of receiving an artifact is supposedly based not only on how much damage you did to the champ, but also on how much damage you did over the course of the spawn overall. In theory, players who turn up solely to battle the champion at the end of the fight have only a minor chance of receiving a reward."

taken directly from uoguide Champion Spawn Artifacts - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia

I also remember that very topic being discussed at LENGTH by the devs prior to even adding the artifacts to begin with.....

I have done many spawns and have yet to get anything when showing up after the second tier, and know many many many folks that are the same way,

Please stop trying to re-invent the wheel. :please:
 

Ludes

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Don't like this idea at all.. unless like Tazar said you just make it an advertisement when you wish people to join you.. but gen Chat works just as well for that..

Lots of times I go to fel champ spawns early in the morning or late at night to avoid people showing up to "help" me.

I'd like to keep that privacy.
 

Lynk

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Can Mythic instead develop something that generates an SMS text message to me when someone is working a champion spawn on all east coast servers?

I'd like to know the champ type, and be informed when the alter hits 3rd level. I'd also like to know the player names, guild, and faction affiliations of all players that walked near the alter within 10 minutes of hitting third level.

To clarify - this text should only come to me.

Thanks
 

Pinco

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:bs:

Told you this in the other thread about Champ Spawns
http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/249195-more-ilshenar-champions-please.html


... but

"Your chance of receiving an artifact is supposedly based not only on how much damage you did to the champ, but also on how much damage you did over the course of the spawn overall. In theory, players who turn up solely to battle the champion at the end of the fight have only a minor chance of receiving a reward."

taken directly from uoguide Champion Spawn Artifacts - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia

I also remember that very topic being discussed at LENGTH by the devs prior to even adding the artifacts to begin with.....

I have done many spawns and have yet to get anything when showing up after the second tier, and know many many many folks that are the same way,

Please stop trying to re-invent the wheel. :please:
That's only for champs and specifically for replicas.
If you go and attack the slasher when someone is doing it you get the same chances of the others to get the reward.
same if you go in a champ in fel, basically a wod could give you 1 or more PS without doing anything else.
 

AirmidCecht

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We have community hunts on LS 4 nights a week and about 30 min prior Sabina does a shout out in chat as a reminder to where we're headed.

Its as good as any town crier out there :)
 

Kylie Kinslayer

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That's only for champs and specifically for replicas.
If you go and attack the slasher when someone is doing it you get the same chances of the others to get the reward.
same if you go in a champ in fel, basically a wod could give you 1 or more PS without doing anything else.

sorry for o/t op...

I will agree they need to make Slasher along the lines of Stygian Drag, need easily obtained keys to even enter the fight. Which is something the Devs could easily change. But the draw of Fel champs are the player aspect. The person that comes in and wod the champ, you can either chase them down, kill them, heal the champ and deal with what is a probable raid OR write off that scroll (s), finish the champ and get out before the raid. Most just use that as a stall tactic to give the rest of the zerg time to arrive.

I would hate to see them attempt to undertake any changes in those game mechanics. We all see what happens when they undertake something that CAN be a major undertaking. Just my opinion *shrugs*
 

aarons6

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In order to encourage and help hunters do group activities, i think it would be nice if a town crier would let you know if Slasher of veils, Medusa, Peerless and champion spawns were being done so anyone could tag along.
oh yeah thats a great idea.. spend all the time getting to the boss and have some town crier tell everyone that its up and go tag along??

how about NO.
 

Ezekiel Zane

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In order to encourage and help hunters do group activities, i think it would be nice if a town crier would let you know if Slasher of veils, Medusa, Peerless and champion spawns were being done so anyone could tag along.
oh yeah thats a great idea.. spend all the time getting to the boss and have some town crier tell everyone that its up and go tag along??

how about NO.
Have to agree, NO. Bad idea!
 

Ender

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:bs:

Told you this in the other thread about Champ Spawns
http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/249195-more-ilshenar-champions-please.html


... but

"Your chance of receiving an artifact is supposedly based not only on how much damage you did to the champ, but also on how much damage you did over the course of the spawn overall. In theory, players who turn up solely to battle the champion at the end of the fight have only a minor chance of receiving a reward."

taken directly from uoguide Champion Spawn Artifacts - UOGuide, the Ultima Online encyclopedia

I also remember that very topic being discussed at LENGTH by the devs prior to even adding the artifacts to begin with.....

I have done many spawns and have yet to get anything when showing up after the second tier, and know many many many folks that are the same way,

Please stop trying to re-invent the wheel. :please:
Had a guildmate show up for a spawn a bit ago that I and one or two others worked up from the beginning and get a Gladiator's Collar replica.

Like everything else in the game, it just doesn't work right.
 
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Fayled Dhreams

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well, seems the "Grand scale" type of events pose too many problems at this time (champs)

but
A guild or a "pick-up" Group or >party< might be able to benefit from a programmable / "hire able" NPC

Party up and One member of the group, could go about hiring NPCs with sets of instructions and dialogues and clues and such
and custom cut a quest, a mystery, a check point on a cross country cattle drive, directions to a gathering, telling of a tale to (with party as actors) a theater of patrons, passerby's, ..... youtube ..... program an npc plant/shill for a magic show, responds to the Cue: any volunteers?

hehe! hire one to fight with your Herald in the street Chic Fight!!
hehehe Origin by the bank (true story) still "test" ... PC bought two fighters and had a round robin slap fight working "Wrestling"
*shrugs* anyways, I observed aloud: which one is moe and which one is curely?
My name is larry and this is my other brother Larry and this my older brother Lairy poke slap punch kick ow! ... etc


bots to stand in for a missing guildie member (stand in for a murder scene in tram, some great gags >as< PCs ... or a wider stage in the street theater tradition)
or channel him "from beyond "... My master hath charged me to speak to you three alone, his message is this ...

Not a "bad" area for UO to try and improve on .. atm >no-one< has a programmable interactive NPC to "craft/connive/contrive with"
"follow you" or "go forward and be dumb" ... yeah FPS type bots ... this could be More ...

the advance could be in the amount of instructions you could "if_then" into them ... develop a UO npc class of Programmable AI and the tools and interface to go/use with it.
and as for "customizing" the npcs "appearance ..." there's your "on Que" zombie scene rounding the corner of the mountain ... Brainzzzz!
summon the Grey Speaking Wyvern of the mountains to fight along side your small band.

Perfect time to start working with the concept too ...
population is down, right? PLENTY of room for small groups to try and build battle field re-enactments ...
IF it "catches on" ... becomes neat, coool, howed didja do THAT?
Population IS down .. right? should be able to >simulate< what it could be like to command a flank of archers ... yes?

Not a "new idea" either ... I remember a guy bought up like 20 Npc "fighters" and gated them to the top of a building at brit GY
Daisy chained them with the follow target command and Conga line! ... Hilarious! had three guild mates join up and set up a platoon size marching formation ...
marched right by brit bank ... and the >real crowd< ROARED ... really ... a riot broke out ... some one would lightening bolt one of the hirelings, guards were called, people were whacked ... went on for hours!
good times.

population is down, right? PLENTY of room for small groups to try and build battle field re-enactments ...
IF it "catches on" ... becomes neat, coool, howed didja do THAT?
IF it "catches on" >People will come<
if don't? the Dwindling pop will have a new resource to keep themselves entertained with ...

A workable idea ...
 
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