ok , time to do something about shadow strike

[SixUnder]

grab a club if your a ninja.

no timer on it

does it even cost mana?

can do it every swing?

iv seen 3 diff guys abusing this now its ********.

be different if it cost same mana as normal special, or if you couldnt do it every swing
but this is stupid.

go try it out if ya think im kidding.

 

[Lynk]

lol what exactly are you crying about?

 

[SixUnder]

crying?

seriously.

shadow strike has never been used by almost anyone.

now go try it out, every swing hide. swing, and a hide. plus smoke bombs, hiding skill.

there is no timer on it. detect hidden, tracking, every other skill has a timer.... special moves such as mortal have a timer of 8 seconds, why shouldnt shadow strike?

thats not even close to anything else. honestly i dont know how i overlooked it this long. think about the timers, mana penalties put on other specials moves or the seconds/timer you have to wait to remount after a dismount, or mortal etc.

it needs addressed.

 

[Fayled Dhreams]

crying?

seriously.

shadow strike has never been used by almost anyone.

now go try it out, every swing hide. swing, and a hide. plus smoke bombs, hiding skill.

there is no timer on it. detect hidden, tracking, every other skill has a timer.... special moves such as mortal have a timer of 8 seconds, why shouldnt shadow strike?

thats not even close to anything else. honestly i dont know how i overlooked it this long. think about the timers, mana penalties put on other specials moves or the seconds/timer you have to wait to remount after a dismount, or mortal etc.

it needs addressed.

well, aren't ALL ninja actions "special" ?
(linked header seems to say so ... *grin*)

Where are the number crunchers?
the template tuning lords?
Is a UBWS mod >required< to maximize its usefullness? (been awhile since macing was a skill of "over powered status")
heh!
stick and move! stick and move! is now
club-n-hide! club-n-hide!
well ... with that one weapon / fighting skill(+80 stealth, required)
not the short spear?

"not" a Gargish Dagger ?

If the number crunchers are all retired ...
Shurely a "matched template match" could be set on test ...

I got a .25 quatloo on the gargish dagger being the "better" choice of the two
(oh yeah ... soup them BOTH up, enhancements and mods etc ...)

*wink* surely y'all saw what i did thar ... yuk yuk!

 

[wee papa smurf]

well, aren't ALL ninja actions "special" ?
(linked header seems to say so ... *grin*)

Where are the number crunchers?
the template tuning lords?
Is a UBWS mod >required< to maximize its usefullness? (been awhile since macing was a skill of "over powered status")
heh!
stick and move! stick and move! is now
club-n-hide! club-n-hide!
well ... with that one weapon / fighting skill(+80 stealth, required)
not the short spear?

"not" a Gargish Dagger ?

If the number crunchers are all retired ...
Shurely a "matched template match" could be set on test ...

I got a .25 quatloo on the gargish dagger being the "better" choice of the two
(oh yeah ... soup them BOTH up, enhancements and mods etc ...)

*wink* surely y'all saw what i did thar ... yuk yuk!

What i found funny was that the smiths hammer has that as a special too

 

[5% Luck]

My only experience with Shadow strike and get this is archery. We had a good fight going over a piper in despize and had an area where we were getting our players back up and into the fight. They had a stealth ninja archer shadowstriking every res. In essence res killing our guys with an instant hide check after. Tell me about annoying!

It took some time but I look back on that and laugh! Maybe its me but that is one of the koolest features of ninjitsu!

 

[Tinsil]

Yes shadow strike is a good defensive special and for res killing.. You should not die to someone spamming shadow strike though. It also doesn't hide you if you miss.. It also DOES cost mana, not much though.

 

[Cetric]

lol @ sixunder for being upset at shadowstrike of all things.

 

[Tinsil]

lol @ sixunder for being upset at shadowstrike of all things.

I know right? Shadowstrike? lol

 

[Lynk]

crying?

seriously.

Yea dude, you're crying. It's not overpowered.

 

[Cear Dallben Dragon]

dude shadow strike sucks, i was hoping this would be a thread about not being revealed when taking damage then using shadow strike. in PVM the events are seen by the server in reverse order.

Lets say I'm running through fire island and i have to use the bathroom. I want to hide so i wont die if someone runs by. I run up and aggro a daemon who then flame strikes me. after taking the damage my shadow strike hits and I'm hidden for about half a second before being revealed. I have used this ability like twice in pvp and it's rarely helpful. Last time it did me any good two guys dismouted me and thew Cu's at me. I was lucky to get a shadow strike off on the dogs and not have any of the 4 mobs on me reveal me while i mounted up to run.

what template are you using?
if you are actually being killed by someone chaining shadow strike i'm going to fall out of my chair.

 

[Cetric]

if you are actually being killed by someone chaining shadow strike i'm going to fall out of my chair.

for sure

 

[Viper09]

Shadow strike? Really?

I never found it useful! Especially with the passive detect! You shadow strike someone right next to someone and they will obviously know where you are. A decent PvPer knows how to get someone using shadow strike.

 

[icm420]

I understand the complaint, it has to do with detect hidden and tracking sucking compared to hiding smoke bombs and shadow strike. I wish they would get away from this stealth bs all the time but right now almost every dexxer temp being run is a disarm deathstriker, if the smoke bomb fails or he gets revealed, he could turn around and shadowstrike for another instant hide. Not something I have seen happen but I understand how ******** it is.

 

[puni666]

Want to talk about something annoying talk about the Bladeweave special move.

Bladeweave - The Warrior becomes one with their weapon, allowing it to guide their hand. The effects of this attack are unpredictable, but effective.(this effective part is questionable)

 

[puni666]

grab a Kryss if you have poisoning
no timer on it

does it even cost mana?

can do it every swing?

iv seen 3 diff guys abusing this now its ********.

be different if it cost same mana as normal special, or if you couldnt do it every swing
but this is stupid.

go try it out if ya think im kidding.

I may have edited your post for ironic purposes.

 

[Viper09]

grab a Kryss if you have poisoning
no timer on it

does it even cost mana?

can do it every swing?

iv seen 3 diff guys abusing this now its ********.

be different if it cost same mana as normal special, or if you couldnt do it every swing
but this is stupid.

go try it out if ya think im kidding.

I may have edited your post for ironic purposes.

You may have also helped him to catch those pesky little shadow strikers.

 

[puni666]

Yea dude, you're crying. It's not overpowered.

Nope, but it's hilarious looking when the shadow striker is RKing people.

 

[SixUnder]

lol @ sixunder for being upset at shadowstrike of all things.

oh no. not upset just was misinformed until i saw it tonight being used every swing to hide ones self over and over and over. nothing you can do about it. reveal, they hide, conlag they hide, p field, they shadow jump then hide. its never ending.

when your chasing someone through spawns, and the hide you conglaf reveal... they pop a smoke bomb, didnt stay still so wait ill just using my club for no mana and no timer to invis over and over.

its not the template its how its used, everything else is some what undercontrol. timers, or delay with dbl then triple mana etc. this goes on and on..

 

[SixUnder]

grab a Kryss if you have poisoning
no timer on it

does it even cost mana?

can do it every swing?

iv seen 3 diff guys abusing this now its ********.

be different if it cost same mana as normal special, or if you couldnt do it every swing
but this is stupid.

go try it out if ya think im kidding.

I may have edited your post for ironic purposes.

You may have also helped him to catch those pesky little shadow strikers.

poison?

please..... insta pot chug cure, hide.

no good. my main char has gm nox, its almost worthless.

 

[Viper09]

poison?

please..... insta pot chug cure, hide.

no good. my main char has gm nox, its almost worthless.

Almost useless yet you have it on your character? Then take it off if you find it useless.

Yeah they can chug, but can you not chain poison on them? Yes you can. So do it and stop complaining. They can only use the cure pots so many times, assuming they even have them. Heck, you can also toss a conflag pot where they are, use passive detect to your advantage, then keep chaining poison on them. Maybe you just need to spend less time complaining about stealthers and more time trying different ways to catch them. It really isn't as hard as you try to make it out to be.

Like everything else in this game though, such as PvP, can't always get them all.

 

[Mairut]

oh no. not upset just was misinformed until i saw it tonight being used every swing to hide ones self over and over and over. nothing you can do about it. reveal, they hide, conlag they hide, p field, they shadow jump then hide. its never ending.

when your chasing someone through spawns, and the hide you conglaf reveal... they pop a smoke bomb, didnt stay still so wait ill just using my club for no mana and no timer to invis over and over.

its not the template its how its used, everything else is some what undercontrol. timers, or delay with dbl then triple mana etc. this goes on and on..

Preeetttyyy sure you have to be hidden first, in order to shadowjump

 

[icm420]

poison?

please..... insta pot chug cure, hide.

no good. my main char has gm nox, its almost worthless.

Nox is still really nice from time to time. Shatter potions were also made for a noxxer, carry a couple chuck em at the guys and hope you can run em out of cures. Also use parasitic poison vs deadly or darkglow..parasitic seems to take more then 1 cure and can sometimes take up to 3 pots to cure. To stop the hiding on the stealther try a bleed mayb..pretty sure he can't hide then. But I was kicking some ass on my old nox fencer the other night so I disagree that nox is worthless..


I agree that shadowstrike is ********, I was playing around with it last night but it was costing me a lot of mana by the time I got to 5-6 in a row. I didn't have a great set up on the toon, but there is no timer as there is on a smoke bomb etc. It only requires stealth and weapon skill to perform too so I can see how it could be abused. I like tracking for stealthers, and since hailstorm hits hidden people I like to try to track em and then hailstorm them as they run away, I have not played with detect hidden but IF shadow strike is not subject to that timer then something should be done with it. You can't even Invis when you get that detect timer on yah..

I am really sick of the deathstrike stealth crap in pvp these days :/.

 

[Cear Dallben Dragon]

i would just like to throw out again to the devs that shadow strike works horribly in the enhanced client. you are revealed or it doesn't work a lot of the time. Especially if you've taken damage recently.