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MalagAste

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

I've often said that it's my belief that EA games secretly wants UO to fail...

As far as the video goes... It'll be done when it's done... then we will have to wait while all the corporate dimwits go over it and make sure Cal isn't promising us free gametime or anything like that..... and then it'll have to go to some other area so they are sure we aren't being told anything that we could sue over later..... and finally after that when all else is forgotten and no one gives a **** anymore then it'll get released.

Crying about it, whining about it, or demanding it, or even posting 100 new threads about it every week, will NOT make it get done any sooner.
 

NuSair

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The least they could do is come on and say something instead of just ignoring it.
 

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The least they could do is come on and say something instead of just ignoring it.
But that's the EA/UO way. What would you rather they did...... say Soon, we are working on it.... We are aware of the issue???? They already said they are working on it...
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Crying about it, whining about it, or demanding it, or even posting 100 new threads about it every week, will NOT make it get done any sooner.
You're right. Paying customers have no right to expect deadlines to be met or explanations to be given. How dare we ask for an answer that was promised last year?
 

Sargon

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Perhaps the lack of a video says more about the state of the game than any video could.
 
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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Cut Cal some slack. Announcing that there will be no Classic Shard is bound to be something that he is not looking forward to. The backlash is probably going to be pretty severe, and UO is going to lose accounts. If you were in his shoes, you'd probably procrastinate as long as possible as well. I know I would.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

*smiles* Were those accounts not already lost?

Classic needs to be a new game. just saying.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Cut Cal some slack. Announcing that there will be no Classic Shard is bound to be something that he is not looking forward to. The backlash is probably going to be pretty severe, and UO is going to lose accounts. If you were in his shoes, you'd probably procrastinate as long as possible as well. I know I would.
Disclaimer, as this is all supposition. But I figure if there were anything there that was gonna really excite the masses, like yes to classic shard, etc etc., it woulda been pushed out the door fast no matter what, kinda like the pubs have been.
So I expect more tactful politics, smoke and mirrors, carrots, lots of talk with nothing being said. Kinda like watching the Presidential State of the Unionrolleyes:

Hope I'm wrong, but I've become quite jaded.:(
 
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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Cut Cal some slack. Announcing that there will be no Classic Shard is bound to be something that he is not looking forward to. The backlash is probably going to be pretty severe, and UO is going to lose accounts. If you were in his shoes, you'd probably procrastinate as long as possible as well. I know I would.
I disagree ...
"slack" is just wasted rope ... and it IS part of his job to keep the population informed ...
not weasel out due to "distaste" ... PRODUCE the TRUTH
NOT
ride the clock ... maybe they'll forget ...
backlash is probably going to be pretty severe
compared to ????
:lol: not bloody likely ...

They/them THOSE folks ...

took their slack and went elsewhere.

*dusts hands* :danceb:
 
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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

So I expect more tactful politics, smoke and mirrors, carrots, lots of talk with nothing being said.
So pretty much in line with how Cal usually conducts himself.

Listen, the man knows squat about the game. WHY has he been given the reins to drive this game? It's baffling.
 

Martyna Zmuir

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Cut Cal some slack.
The man had a year, then another half month, then another half month, then an extra week.

He's had enough slack to hang himself sevaral times over.

Regardless of the content, they need to post the video.
 

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really? i used to be hardcore into pvp before aos, after aos, even after samurai empire, but once spellweaving came out i started disliking it more, and then mysticism and imbuing kind of killed it for me... however since lj is good again im gonna try to get back into it little by little, though i do miss the full loot days of killing someone
who told you lumber jacking is getting good again ?
 
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Perhaps the lack of a video says more about the state of the game than any video could.
Agreed.

I think the lack of consideration shown to the people who put food on their plates is jaw dropping.
 

Martyna Zmuir

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I think the lack of consideration shown to the people who put food on their plates is jaw dropping.
Shouldn't we be pretty used to this by now though?

Since the big lay off after SA launched, "ignore, avoid, and hide" has become Mythic SOP.
 

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Alright. I give. Optimism bludgeoned severely. I'll get excited again next friday, and the next friday and the next.
 

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It's amazing how they don't even give a "Sorry, it'll be next week! Really!" anymore.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

I should also specify that I, for one, don't have the impression that the answer on a custom rules set shard would be in the upcoming video.
I don't have the quote, but Cal stated exactly that. He said that they wouldn't have a classic shard answer by the end of the year (last year), but they were planning a state of the game video that would explain their decision and what went into it. I am fully expecting a definitive answer one way or another.
I wish I had a job, where instead of spending 2 minutes to type something, I could spend 5-6 weeks filming and editing a response instead.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

I wish I had a job, where instead of spending 2 minutes to type something, I could spend 5-6 weeks filming and editing a response instead.
And where deadlines don't matter. That would be the best job ever.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

I wish I had a job, where instead of spending 2 minutes to type something, I could spend 5-6 weeks filming and editing a response instead.
And where deadlines don't matter. That would be the best job ever.

You forgot the part about not needing to know your product, your clients, or bothering to provide more then a basic, apathetic level of customer service.

Where do I send my application? Fairfax?
 

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The handwriting is on the wall.

Not for the game or anything. But for the video and for the reaction to it.

At this point all the delays have already minimized anything good it says and maximized anything bad it says.

I can't think of anything it could say that would justify the wait.

And the situation is near-totally of their own making.

-Galen's player
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

It doesn't matter what puppet they put "in charge" of UO as EA obviously doesn't seem to want to invest much into it, they do not care about UO and as long as it is making a profit they will leave the servers on, if not they will nix it and continue focusing on new projects.

I'm personally waiting for the day they throw the off switch and put old yeller down. No need to play UO in it's current incarnation, when you can have a superior experience playing WoW/Aion/EQ 2/Rift Online etc.

And anyone who hasn't figured it out, the answer to classic will be a fat and resounding no, so if you were hoping for it, go ahead and cancel if you haven't already, sign up for the best free shard you can find and enjoy it.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

It doesn't matter what puppet they put "in charge" of UO as EA obviously doesn't seem to want to invest much into it, they do not care about UO and as long as it is making a profit they will leave the servers on, if not they will nix it and continue focusing on new projects.

I'm personally waiting for the day they throw the off switch and put old yeller down. No need to play UO in it's current incarnation, when you can have a superior experience playing WoW/Aion/EQ 2/Rift Online etc.

And anyone who hasn't figured it out, the answer to classic will be a fat and resounding no, so if you were hoping for it, go ahead and cancel if you haven't already, sign up for the best free shard you can find and enjoy it.
People play EQ2? Lol. Doesn't the original have a higher population?
 
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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

You forgot the part about not needing to know your product, your clients, or bothering to provide more then a basic, apathetic level of customer service.

Where do I send my application? Fairfax?
Actually ... first stop would be "the web"
https://jobs.ea.com/roles/
THEN head to fairfax.

yw.
 
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We gave Cal and mythic to much rope and well, they hung us all with it.

I really looked forward to seeing a video/response today from the team. While I have been with UO since almost the start, this has happened over and over again, but I think this decision by the DEV team is being watched by pleanty of players who are asking should I stay, or should I go.

All things aside I hope we see a video this weekend. But really anticipated something today.
 
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If they aren't able to make a video, why not just write 2 lines instead ? You don't need your feet to write a short news article saying something like:

a) sorry no classic shard, our resources are too thin for that and a marketing study done by managers who incidentally play wow proved that it would not attract enough people

b) we will stop all cheating (just because we say so)

c) this year's new expansion will have spaceships! there was once a crashed spaceship in Ultima, we're going to develop that storyline (+10 Ultima knowledge to who can tell me where this spaceship was) please buy it or i will be fired. Thanks.

This is as close as it gets to the state of the game video. Now if they were missing out an idea for the next expansion, i authorize them to borrow my spaceship idea.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Except of course for, you know, the fact that there's been all this downtime for new servers, which cost some money by definition.

That's what makes this all so weird to me.
Server upgrades? cool story bro, let me know when the game itself actually gets improved in such a way that it isn't completely outclassed by it's modern competition. Oh no that's right they do have the EC, what a smash hit that's been.

New servers, like putting new tires of a model T Ford.
 

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c) this year's new expansion will have spaceships! there was once a crashed spaceship in Ultima, we're going to develop that storyline (+10 Ultima knowledge to who can tell me where this spaceship was) please buy it or i will be fired. Thanks.
It's been a long time since i played Ultima7 Part 1 but i seem to remember that the spaceship was a kilrathi fighter which hit the ground in some corn fields soth of britain. ;)
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Except of course for, you know, the fact that there's been all this downtime for new servers, which cost some money by definition.

That's what makes this all so weird to me.

-Galen's player
Why is it weird? The answer is really, really simple... And I address it not to you personally Galen, but the rest of this thread; because most of the commentary here is living in it's own little virtual world, listening only to their own thoughts and selfish desires, and this completely detached from reality. Look at this thread for an illustration of that; nowhere in Cal's original comment about hoping to be able to make a statement on a classic shard was a video response mentioned. Nowhere. That "Locked thread on the state of the game"...? It's a Rick Roll. Did anyone go and cross check even that? Did anyone then bother going and locating Cal's own original statement to get the basic facts?

But because the original poster has confused something completely unrelated, suddenly everyone's not just taking it as a fact that Cal promised a response in a video that wasn't even conceived of at the time he made his statement, but assuming from that false premise they can still know all about working conditions at EA and Mythic, better even than the people who actually do work there.

So here's another perspective which might explain what is confusing you. Don't listen to the few remaining obsessives here at Stratics. Widen your perspective a little. Someone also mentioned Everquest, and how the first game is still going... go and read a bit about the larger MMO market then, and you'll see that there's a small number of MMOs that seem to have a relatively stable, but small user base that remains no matter what. They don't make a huge fortune, but they are a guaranteed trickle of income. Ultima Online has turned out to be one of them. It won't be here forever of course, but with all the start up costs decades out of the way now, it's a tempting offer to keep ticking over. If it wasn't, Mythic wouldn't have bought the game, would they?

Of course, in this age of Randian self-absorbtion, people like to think they are experts in everything, just because they happen to want the produce involved. So they wibble on about how if you do this, and do that and ignore the facts that as far as Ultima Online is concerned, there's now more than 13 years of customer behaviour data built up. And even recently they gave those who requested a "Classic Shard" a template to show how committed you were to the idea even now; but most of you just childishly complained about how it wasn't exactly what you wanted and you'd be damned if you'd give a single minute to playing something which didn't bow down before you...

If you think I'm being excessively harsh, look at this thread again. Many of you are too busy mocking Cal for having a little fun and wanting to share it with you, as if his job entails that he miserable for every single minute of every day until you get what you want, and expressing absolutely no sympathy for the injury he experienced during the making of the video. Unlike Cal though, I'm not restrained by my contract or by public relations training from pointing out that's an unbelievably dickish attitude.

Nor am I restrained from pointing out that they are restrained in turn from telling you what the actual make up of the game is, because they know some of you will throw wobblies and make all kinds of ridiculous claims and threats and that a very, very small minority of you will then back up; look at the same old names here, so many years later, still spreading at least the name and power of "Ultima Online" by being unable to walk away from it totally... like the abusive husband, observers will look on and sometimes wonder just what addictive qualities that husband must have to get them to stay with him... And of course, in the meantime the rest of you keep paying that monthly fee. What ever Cal would love to say to you all, the suits above him will be reminding him to not say anything whilst they've got you by the danglies.

And you do that to yourselves. All you had to do was go and check your attitude by checking the original facts. Or admitting to yourself that you've not been the target audience for any successful MMO for decades. Right now I'm afk flying between item pick ups 14 jumps apart in EvE Online, on a mining template with absolutely no combat skills at all and a slow Industrial ship with no weapons equipped... and completely relaxed, even in that supposedly Wild West-esque MMO, because even there remains disincentives to unrestrained player killing.

EvE Online by the way I'd include in the "likely to have just enough of a core audience" MMOs... it's not entirely my thing (I'm messing about on an Xmas gift account), but yeah, looks like they've found a viable model too. And you'll find life a lot less stressful and confusing if you are honest enough to look at the world as it really is, not as you wish it was or selfishly demand it become.

So again... why did Ultima Online get server upgrades? Maybe they know something you don't, or at least someone in the organisation thinks they know enough to plonk the extra cash down. Or you can persist in declaring you're all that matters, you know the game better than they do, and it serves them right when they break your foot... and keep wondering why they don't talk to you any more, but just keep take your money from you; "Baby, just one more day getting High (Seas) and I promise I'll stop hitting you."
 
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It's been a long time since i played Ultima7 Part 1 but i seem to remember that the spaceship was a kilrathi fighter which hit the ground in some corn fields soth of britain. ;)
There is stars in malas.....*plays X files song*
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

I find the following combination of actions weird.

Server upgrades;
New servers are new servers...I figure they will be modern and easy to handle the changeover if SW is a big hit. :p
I mean, a company running/producing onlline games, can always use new equipment, right? Even if it's not needed until a year down the road.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

I'm not convinced that the server hardware "update" was done because Mythic Bioware is suddenly interested in investing more money in UO. I'm more inclined to believe the change was done because (1) the department responsible for running the servers insisted on getting UO (and possibly also DAoC) onto newer equipment that is more consistent with the other equipment they run; and (2) some of the servers were relocated to "lower cost locations" that didn't want to deal with old equipment.

If you read through a lot of the reports in the Investor Relations section of EA's website, you'll see that one of the things EA has been doing for most of the last year is moving more and more of their operations to what they referred to as "lower cost locations."

I'm much more inclined to think the hardware changes were done to cut overall costs than because anyone at EA actually thinks UO is going to suddenly have a surge in subscription numbers.

And as far as the delay in the video or any kind of producer's update goes, I suspect that Cal and Mesanna and perhaps some of the developers and designers may be busy working with NetDragon Websoft on the Chinese version of UO.

Although the NetDragon website no longer seems to be listing UO as one of its "upcoming games," UO is still mentioned as being "under development" in a November 23, 2010 press release. Also, a company fact sheet released on the same date lists UO in the "Game Pipeline" section and says the "New Ultima Online" (footnoted as just a working title) is "expected to be launched in 2H 2011." That would imply that it's very close to being released in beta.

It's my guess, too, that this work with NetDragon Websoft to some extent caused the relocation of the Oceania server. It may be that once NetDragon's version of UO is up and running, EA will completely dump the Oceania server (as well as the Arirang, Balhae, and Formosa servers) and perhaps work on some kind of arrangement for the folks that play on those shards to switch to the other game. Not sure they'd completely scrap everything in Japan, especially if it's true that the Japanese players are the ones that are actually keeping UO afloat at this point.

I also think that any bug fixes we're seeing at this point are simply the result of some folks on the UO team working their way down a long laundry list that Mesanna compiled over the last year or two. The task is keeping some devs, designers, and software engineers occupied while Cal and Mesanna are running around, busy with other stuff that isn't related to the day-to-day realities of running the 13-year-old version of UO. The fact that work doesn't seem to have come to a complete stand still makes me think that EA at least hopes to pick up a few new subs by riding on the coat-tails of whatever NetDragon Websoft manages to achieve with a new, possibly true 3D version of UO.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

When I open my Guildwars client Arenanet actually has an announcement and link for jobs with Guildwars 2 project. 17 Jobs are listed on their site. Jobs - ArenaNet

Now I go to EA site and check the Virginia location and there are only 3 jobs listed. Now we all know that Mythic is home to UO, Daoc, and Warhammer Online. Mythic must have good job security and people are keeping them or they are running on a very low crew for all 3 games.
 
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Well, whenever I comment on UO, it always from a PvP perspective. To me, PvP is all UO has to offer.
LOL

I actually play a different game for pvp. The stuff that intests me in UO is not the pvp. UO is a great game in its own right, but the pvp in it sucks imo.
 
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This whole thing is really discouraging.. How many times have they pushed back this video? I know UO isn't like a top priority by any means for EA, but still... We can't get a 2 minute video within a somewhat reasonable time?
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

Except of course for, you know, the fact that there's been all this downtime for new servers, which cost some money by definition.

That's what makes this all so weird to me.

-Galen's player
Why is it weird? The answer is really, really simple...
So simple that it required a long, rambling post that made no sense. :)
 
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This whole thing is really discouraging.. How many times have they pushed back this video? I know UO isn't like a top priority by any means for EA, but still... We can't get a 2 minute video within a somewhat reasonable time?
It's going to be considerably longer than 2 minutes, unless they change their minds on whatever they were doing and simply cut most of it out. (I doubt that.)

*Cal got hurt.
*The MMO department is under a lot of stress right now due to EA's layoffs.
*EA will be back as far as that goes, this is a temporary situation to get over the hump of what they are doing right now to get more profitable (digital distribution, cutting things that aren't profitable, etc.). Those things are mostly done, and SWTOR production costs will end "soon" and start making money more than they spend on it, the costs will be "last quarter".
*Whatever they decided for UO, good or bad, doesn't have anything to do with the release of this video, time wise.
*Cal might have had to have more surgery or strapped up in a bed, for all we know. This might have been something he thought he could delay while he gets it out.
*It does suck that they won't say anything, but it's probably because of the stresses they are under right now.
*Rumors that Cal ran off with Miley Cyrus are greatly exaggerated.

So, in short, relax. At least it won't be buggy when it's released.
 

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Sorry, Trebr, but those are pretty much all excuses.

The video was being shot when can hurt his tendon again. We were told it was done and was just going through final edits.

Posting something on the Herald, FB, or even Stratics would have taken James all of a few minutes and saved Mythic _A LOT_ of greif.
 

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Sorry, Trebr, but those are pretty much all excuses.

The video was being shot when can hurt his tendon again. We were told it was done and was just going through final edits.

Posting something on the Herald, FB, or even Stratics would have taken James all of a few minutes and saved Mythic _A LOT_ of greif.
:thumbup1::thumbup1:

I can't remember anyone asking for a video, It just seems to be an excuse to live behind. I'd have been very happy reading a wall of text.
 

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The text would have taken about, at most, 30 minutes to type, proofread, and post.


Although our devs would still be able to stretch that out into a 2+ month process.
 
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:thumbup1::thumbup1:

I can't remember anyone asking for a video, It just seems to be an excuse to live behind. I'd have been very happy reading a wall of text.
Pretty much this.

By the way, a day after we are told by the 'community guy' that things could be better, don't you think... you know... announcing this would not be available this week (even though it was stated it would be) might have been a step in the right direction.

Here is a simple request to the current UO team: STOP DROPPING THE BALL. You do yourselves no favors by continuous disregarding the people who ensure you have jobs. If you actually are not interested in providing a quality service, PLEASE MOVE ON. While I'm quite aware that a job on the UO is more towards the bottom rungs on the online job ladder, no paying player wants continuously poor service.

My god. Are the higher ups in EA even remotely aware on the continued incompetence displayed by the Cal and company running one of their onlines?
 

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The video was being shot when can hurt his tendon again. We were told it was done and was just going through final edits.

Posting something on the Herald, FB, or even Stratics would have taken James all of a few minutes and saved Mythic _A LOT_ of greif.

Who was doing the edits? Cal? Probably not.

Writing a notice doesn't take long, I agree. But how long does it take to get it approved for posting? They can't just put pinkies to keyboard and say whatever they like.

You're all quick to blame, and slow to consider the constraints and restrictions involved. Mostly put in place because of the players' eagerness to jump on one miss-judged phase and twist it into something totally opposite to what was meant.
 

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Re: State of the Game video/answer to classic shard.

The fact that work doesn't seem to have come to a complete stand still makes me think that EA at least hopes to pick up a few new subs by riding on the coat-tails of whatever NetDragon Websoft manages to achieve with a new, possibly true 3D version of UO.
And I will say, for my part, if this true 3D version of UO comes to pass, I will at least give it a chance. All antagonism aside, I think that would be the best thing for UO at this point, a complete reboot. Well either that or take UO and make it F2P.
 
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Who was doing the edits? Cal? Probably not.

Writing a notice doesn't take long, I agree. But how long does it take to get it approved for posting? They can't just put pinkies to keyboard and say whatever they like.

You're all quick to blame, and slow to consider the constraints and restrictions involved. Mostly put in place because of the players' eagerness to jump on one miss-judged phase and twist it into something totally opposite to what was meant.
One little apology for (yet another) delay could have saved them... and stratics board warriors... a lot of hassle.

Again, common courtesy is lacking at the UO offices. You know it. I know it. We ALL know it.

We pay their salaries. We ensure that they have a place to live and food on the table. Asking for them to provide even the slightest hint of customer care would be in their best interest.

Personally, I'm at the moment very close to closing my two last accounts. Seriously, when you look outside of what UO offers, you see a lot of great games that provide a lot of customer care and service.

I don't see that with UO. Basically, UO is years upon years of poor development teams (with the occasional amazing worker, ie Draconi, for one) for the most part living off peoples glory days and a VERY solid game built by others long, long gone. The people who currently run it now are not worthy of the respect that those who actually built the core and fundamentals of UO.
 

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Who was doing the edits? Cal? Probably not.

Writing a notice doesn't take long, I agree. But how long does it take to get it approved for posting? They can't just put pinkies to keyboard and say whatever they like.

You're all quick to blame, and slow to consider the constraints and restrictions involved. Mostly put in place because of the players' eagerness to jump on one miss-judged phase and twist it into something totally opposite to what was meant.
Petra missing deadlines has consiquences.

For example, I recently closed down a bank branch and we had to give our customers 90 written notice, so it HAD to be in the main no later than Sept. 30. Knowing that it would take me about 3 business days to get approval from our legal deparment we set a personal dead line of Sept. 24 for the letter to be done and e-mailed to legal.

Since Cal has publically said he dead line for a classic shard is the end of 2010, mid January, and the end of the 1st week of February (pick which ever one you chose) wouldn't it make a lot of since to take into consideration how long it takes to get approval to make any sort of announcment?

Even though I would love a classic shard, and I am extremly anxious to see if we are going to get one or not, missing this video's deadline 3 times has more of an effect on if I am going to continue to pay for UO or not.

In closing how do I get a job at EA. I would love a job where I can work at my leisure, set deadlines and goals and not having to worry about acheiving them.
 
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In closing how do I get a job at EA. I would love a job where I can work at my leisure, set deadlines and goals and not having to worry about achieving them.
Indeed. Isn't Cal ex military? I thought those types took pride on their efficient work ethic.

Regardless, it doesn't help put to rest the notion that the work ethic is pitiful when the supposed guy who is running the game can't even do his job correctly or on any sort of schedule. Makes you wonder what they are actually doing over there... other than 'nothing', of course.
 

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Mostly put in place because of the players' eagerness to jump on one miss-judged phase and twist it into something totally opposite to what was meant.
No no. Thats a poor defense. Any experienced PR person should easily be able to handle this. They do it live at town halls. They do it close to live in IRC.

So you are blaming the players for a HUGE CORPORATION"S lack of talent in scheduling this and making it actually happen on time? Pathetic.
 
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Let us all keep in mind it is Petra's job to ensure that stratics and UO have a good relationship. In other words, it is positivity or nothing. Even in the face of something like this, it will never be UO's fault as far as her on line responses go to the public.

Sorry, Petra, but it is the truth.
 

Petra Fyde

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You can read it that way if you wish.

Or maybe I'm just more familiar with the influence of 'Murphy'. I truly believe you are all doing Cal a diservice, but we'll never really know.

I would like to mention, just in passing, that I do this 'job' for love of the game and because I'm by nature a 'sharer'. Sharing the knowledge I have, and gathering more, through the boards and the site, which I've spent some considerable effort in updating. It is not a paid position.
 

Martyna Zmuir

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Who was doing the edits? Cal? Probably not.
No, but Cal is the producer. I.e. the one to crack the whip to get things done.

Sadly, is fairly obvious that nobody bothers cracking a whip around there.

Writing a notice doesn't take long, I agree. But how long does it take to get it approved for posting? They can't just put pinkies to keyboard and say whatever they like.
I seriously doubt every post made by a Mythic employee goes through some elaborate vetting process. In fact, once again, its fairly obvious that they don't.

He didn't need to post something elaborate, but "Sorry, something unforseen came up, next week..." etc would have gone a considerable ways to making them not look like a group of unprofessional clowns.

You're all quick to blame, and slow to consider the constraints and restrictions involved. Mostly put in place because of the players' eagerness to jump on one miss-judged phase and twist it into something totally opposite to what was meant.
Hun, you are way to quick to play appologist. Seriously, stop. We know you try to keep things civil and happy here, but sometimes thats just not appropriate.

Mythic had dicked us around now for TWO MONTHS, going on THREE. The p(l)ayers are upset at how the company they PAY is treating them. These people aren't our 'friends,' nor should they be. They are the employees of a multi-national conglomerate and need to display a certain level of professionalism and customer service.

You may not like this, hell, we don't either, but its reality. Sometimes reality isn't all rainbows, fluffy kittens and moonbeams
 
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