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[Mervyn]

I propose you should not be able to speak in general, guild, alliance, nor party chat when dead unless you have the spirit speak skill.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

if ghost then general chat = 0

 

[puni666]

Or ride mounts w/o taming skill, or use potions with ease w/o item id skill, or use animal form w/o animal lore, or use the mods on weapons w/o arms lore.

 

[Mervyn]

Is it so ridiculous? you can't speak in game when dead, why can you speak in general and bypass that? and then some

 

[puni666]

Is it so ridiculous? you can't speak in game when dead, why can you speak in general and bypass that? and then some

Yes, it is Miss Cleo.

 

[jack flash uk]

so unless you have Vent, you want to stop players asking for a res when dead pvp or pvm? then the fair thing to do is block vent chat when dead to stop any unfair advantage?

think this is a non starter Mervyn

 

[Beer_Cayse]

if ghost - help chat?

 

[Mervyn]

well the whole chat thing is a fairly new invention, ok i'll fold on the party chat, you can talk in party. I may even fold on the guild chat under pressure, but being able to speak in general chat? that's stupid

 

[Delbrie]

How about you don't use any of the chats when you die and if you do we will all agree to ignore you. Then you can let us play the game how we want.

 

[Old Man of UO]

well the whole chat thing is a fairly new invention...

New? What is your definition of new? Party chat was added in April, 2000.

From UOHerald Archives:
“Send the party a message”. Left-clicking this button will allow you to type a message and send it to the entire party.

• A party chat window will allow you to see messages sent to members of the party. You can create a macro using the “open” command in the macro section of the options menu. Once you select the “open” command in your macro, you will be able to select “PartyChat” to assign opening the chat window to that macro key. The window can be resized and moved to your liking.

 

[Mapper]

well the whole chat thing is a fairly new invention, ok i'll fold on the party chat, you can talk in party. I may even fold on the guild chat under pressure, but being able to speak in general chat? that's stupid

What is the negative side to being able to talk in chat dead?

 

[Mervyn]

What is the negative side to being able to talk in chat dead?

Well, in that case, why not be able to speak freely when dead anyway?

I like consistency,

Also, i personally nor most of my guild are connected to general chat, however messages from my secretary are often relayed to me that someone has broadcasted in general chat that we've raided them at a champ, or just general rage chat upon death.

 

[Mapper]

Well, in that case, why not be able to speak freely when dead anyway?

I like consistency,

Also, i personally nor most of my guild are connected to general chat, however messages from my secretary are often relayed to me that someone has broadcasted in general chat that we've raided them at a champ, or just general rage chat upon death.

Well in game speech is IC really so it makes sense it would be OoooOoo unless you have SS, As UO is a Roleplaying game.

Any party, guild or general chat is OOC.

 

[red sky]

"my secretary are often relayed to me that someone has broadcasted in general chat that we've raided them at a champ"


So I'm taking it that you don't like to fight for spawns then? Otherwise I couldn't see anything wrong with someone being angry about being pk'd or telling of your guild raiding.

 

[grig_since98]

What possible benefit to the population at large would that be? There are ways of adding challenge to the game that doesn't involve cutting a player's recourse to asking for a res off.

 

[Hunters' Moon]

.....or use animal form w/o animal lore.....

This idea has potential. Ninjitsu+animal lore adds bonus to what each form gives you.Perhaps would even add a couple of forms at 80/80 and 100/100 skill levels.

 

[Mervyn]

The benefits are:

To add extra grief to those who have been killed, to increase their rage, yet have it contained within themselves.

 

[prank]

i think smoke bombs should have a longer timer as sl seem to use them alot..

 

[Thunderz]

From what you have posted i see only 2 reasons why you would want this...

1. You got raided and YELLED over chat for help, but no one came so you smashed your keyboard in rage and said to yourself "what is the point of this damn chat if no one will use it to come help me"...

2. You raided someones champ [probably at the last minute, which in my book is below the belt], and someone shouted over chat "we'v just been raided by XXX can anyone come and help?". Then loads of people turned up to help them and killed you all and YOU lost the champ back to the people who worked it

So you want it changed so you can raid and reep the rewards and people cant call for help [as not everyone is guilded or allianced] to stop you Or number 1.

Thunderz

 

[Mervyn]

From what you've posted.

1: You're a failed pychologist

2: You die a lot and like to rage in chat after death and will do anything to protect your right to trash talk when in a rage.

3. All of the above

 

[Stickypaws]

Well, in that case, why not be able to speak freely when dead anyway?

I like consistency,

Also, i personally nor most of my guild are connected to general chat, however messages from my secretary are often relayed to me that someone has broadcasted in general chat that we've raided them at a champ, or just general rage chat upon death.

I cant think of any time I have seen someone rage because you raided them in global Merv. Infact... It has been Shadow Lords raiding this week, none of CoM. Handy thing though that Merv, when someones calling you out as a challenge (which I am unsure why people do, but eh, its always 2.0 guild when they do) you cant see them to come to them.

 

[Thunderz]

From what you've posted.

1: You're a failed pychologist

2: You die a lot and like to rage in chat after death and will do anything to protect your right to trash talk when in a rage.

3. All of the above

4. Iv done 2 champs in the whole of my 10 year UO life so epic fail for you again

Stop crying and do what you said "work for it".....

Gets out the.... and waits for everyone else to carry on "thinking your hurt and burned bad"



Thunderz

 

[puni666]

This idea has potential. Ninjitsu+animal lore adds bonus to what each form gives you.Perhaps would even add a couple of forms at 80/80 and 100/100 skill levels.

Yep, I mean come on how do you know what you're transforming into if you know nothing about the creature you're attempting to transform into sheesh!

 

[Lord Frodo]

Well, in that case, why not be able to speak freely when dead anyway?

I like consistency,

Also, i personally nor most of my guild are connected to general chat, however messages from my secretary are often relayed to me that someone has broadcasted in general chat that we've raided them at a champ, or just general rage chat upon death.

Bottom line is this is just a whine and they don't want it going out that they are raiding a spawn to PK everyone and take thier scrolls.

 

[Viper09]

or use potions with ease w/o item id skill,

...sooo, an alchemist can't use their own potion to it's potential? Think that idea needs a bit of re-thinking or it needs expanding. Even so, I think taste id would make a lot more sense than item id.

 

[popps]

I propose you should not be able to speak in general, guild, alliance, nor party chat when dead unless you have the spirit speak skill.

From a game point of view, I agree with you.

When a Ghost, noone should be able to comunicate with the Ghost unless a Ghost themselves or they have Spirit Speak.

This is, I think, what would make sense from the game point of view.

Problem is, applications other than UO like chat programs, speak utilities and so forth which make it pointless to "fix" this issue within the game unless they are also addressed when playing ultima Online.

It would be necessary, as I see it, to first make it not possible to use any application utility when running the Ultima Online Client otherwise any restriction to speak to ghosts in the game can be resolved using other ways outside of the game.

 

[Petra Fyde]

This speaks volumes to me:

The benefits are:

To add extra grief to those who have been killed, to increase their rage, yet have it contained within themselves.

I find your motives for wanting this change to be somewhat questionable.

 

[unified]

I propose you should not be able to speak in general, guild, alliance, nor party chat when dead unless you have the spirit speak skill.

From a game point of view, I agree with you.

When a Ghost, noone should be able to comunicate with the Ghost unless a Ghost themselves or they have Spirit Speak.

This is, I think, what would make sense from the game point of view.

Problem is, applications other than UO like chat programs, speak utilities and so forth which make it pointless to "fix" this issue within the game unless they are also addressed when playing ultima Online.

It would be necessary, as I see it, to first make it not possible to use any application utility when running the Ultima Online Client otherwise any restriction to speak to ghosts in the game can be resolved using other ways outside of the game.

How dare they try to cut off my long distance telephone conversation with my UO friend just because my character died. :gun:

 

[popps]

I am merely trying to say that personally, while I agree that Ghosts should be limited in their ability to talk in the game, I do not see the point of spending resources to make sure that in Ultima Online Ghosts are lmited in their talking when players have the possibility to resort to other ways to comunicate with a Ghost.

I think that perhaps these resources could be better spent fixing other issues that Ultima Online might have.

 

[Cailleach]

This speaks volumes to me:

The benefits are:

To add extra grief to those who have been killed, to increase their rage, yet have it contained within themselves.

I find your motives for wanting this change to be somewhat questionable.

Seconded. With extremely instead of somewhat.

 

[old gypsy]

Somehow I don't see this as being something the devs need to invest time into changing.

 

[Lynk]

Yet another stupid idea from mervyn. A dime a dozen.

Suppose we should also consent to EA giving them access to block all third party chat applications once our characters die in game?

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

Yet another stupid idea from mervyn. A dime a dozen.

Suppose we should also consent to EA giving them access to block all third party chat applications once our characters die in game?

You know what dipswitch...read the sticky on community development. Nuff said.

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

This speaks volumes to me:



I find your motives for wanting this change to be somewhat questionable.

Goes both ways, if people couldn't have conversations with the dead in general chat then there would be much less griefing, rage logging, ect done in general chat.

 

[Mervyn]

Yet another stupid idea from mervyn. A dime a dozen.

Suppose we should also consent to EA giving them access to block all third party chat applications once our characters die in game?

I suggest a ghost should require spirit speak to speak (like it always has been) and suddenly you've leaped to this?

Name another "stupid idea" i've had, all i ever post about is bugs, which eventually do get fixed.

 

[Stickypaws]

If we must. This is not a bug. Locking down the client is a stupid idea.

http://vboards.stratics.com/uhall/233594-coffee-cup-uo-try-ec.html

 

[Restroom Cowboy]

I suggest a ghost should require spirit speak to speak (like it always has been) and suddenly you've leaped to this?

Name another "stupid idea" i've had, all i ever post about is bugs, which eventually do get fixed.

The only issue I could see with this is with someone asking for player help dead in a dungeon. Unless there was a workaround disabling a players ability to ask for help would defeat the purpose of general chat.

I do like the concept, and I don't see anything wrong with your ideas. So poop on those who feel otherwise.

 

[G.v.P]

if ghost - help chat?

Greetings from GM Mr. GM:

Sorry, we cannot help thee with that. You are dead and we cannot understand your request.

Your request:

OoOoO OooO, o oOoO oO Oooo oO ooOoOo. OoOo o OOooOoo oOoo!

 

[Mervyn]

lol winner

 

[puni666]

...sooo, an alchemist can't use their own potion to it's potential? Think that idea needs a bit of re-thinking or it needs expanding. Even so, I think taste id would make a lot more sense than item id.

OK you need both, item taste ID AND alchemy! muhahaha

 

[popps]

This speaks volumes to me:



I find your motives for wanting this change to be somewhat questionable.

Goes both ways, if people couldn't have conversations with the dead in general chat then there would be much less griefing, rage logging, ect done in general chat.

That's a good point.

Often I have to shut off my General Chat because the discussions I read are not to my liking....

 

[Viper09]

OK you need both, item taste ID AND alchemy! muhahaha

Nah nah nah. Just alchy and taste id. Item id to use the magic weapons. Lol

 

[Hunters' Moon]

or use potions with ease w/o item id skill,

...sooo, an alchemist can't use their own potion to it's potential? Think that idea needs a bit of re-thinking or it needs expanding. Even so, I think taste id would make a lot more sense than item id.

I don't think I would want my characters to know what an explosion potion would taste like.

 

[[JD]]

Dumb idea unless you can get everyone to agree to make scary oOoOOoo ghost noises in vent and not to use instant messengers.

 

[puni666]

Nah nah nah. Just alchy and taste id. Item id to use the magic weapons. Lol

It's only logical that this is implemented in the next publish! These are serious matters!