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Babble

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You need to differentiate.
Cal has his biiiiiiig *adds southern us accent* excel sheet of potential scripters.
But he has lots of duties too and cannot check all the time if someone really scripts or not.
So if someone blatantly scripts and they see it they ban them.
All others IF Cal notices then and IF he has time and EA really cares more about the game than the money.

I mean what monetary gain has ea if they go after sripters like the devil after souls ....
Take it easy .. fetch a few and keep appearances up and life is easier :p
 

Ahuaeyjnkxs

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Exactly, they will stop a few of them, once a year and make a big example out of them to discourage the others.

It's not always been like that tho, a few years ago they simply didn't care. So there is improvement.

And also the fact that since the game has not much money value for the scripters there is less of them.

But no... they don't actively punish those players ; they have to really attract alot of attention to get caught.

And if you go and look on forums where the scripters boast about what they do, they laugh at being banned, because its extreemly easy for them to setup another account with a gift CC and get going again.
 

popps

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All others IF Cal notices then and IF he has time and EA really cares more about the game than the money.

I mean what monetary gain has ea if they go after sripters like the devil after souls ....
Take it easy .. fetch a few and keep appearances up and life is easier :p


I have no problem if they decide to let be the scripters. I mean, it is their game and so they run it as the see it as fit.

The problem I have is with the double standard where some players enjoy playing scripting with hardly any consequences to their account and other players refrain from scripting which, obviously, makes game play and competing in the game versus those who script, much harder and time consuming.

If they do not want to address scripting, then be it but at least let it be known to players that they can script because it is tolerated.

What I hate, is hearing that scripting is forbidden but then see scripters in the game continue playing without consequences.....

Let's take fishing as an example.

In order to advance fishing it needs a lot of time for the player because fishing orders drop the needed scrolls very rarely. Fine, not a problem with me.

What is my problem, is that those players who want to advance in fishing and do not script, they have to either spend all or most of their gaming time in UO fishing, or settle with the idea that they will become legendary in a very long time.

A scripter, instead, can run the fishing scripts while doing else and then when they have time to play the game they do hunts and stuff and still advance. and much faster than those players who do not script, in their fishing.

Now, how fair is this if I may ask ?

I get to think "what the ........"
 

popps

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And if you go and look on forums where the scripters boast about what they do, they laugh at being banned, because its extreemly easy for them to setup another account with a gift CC and get going again.


Well, if this happens, then I think what is lacking here is actual investigation from Game Masters, maybe.

What I am trying to say, is that usually when one scripts with a disposable account then the items are moved onto another account that is safer.

So, even if the scripting account is caught, the loss is minimized.

Well, if there was investigation from Game Masters to double check on the scripter and see to what account(s) the items obtained through scripting go to, they could ban not only the account(s) used for scripting, but also that/those that benefit from the scripting of other account(s).

Using merely IP addresses to match different accounts to the scripter is not enough, IMHO, because the scripter could be using ways to keep the accounts look as separate, sometimes.

If the scripters are laughing at being banned, this hints to me that the account(s) actually benefitting from the scripting is/are left untouched perhaps because there is not enough investigation from Game Masters.

Scripting could be dealt with, including the account(s) which benefit from it, it all depends on the way that it is dealt with, IMHO.
 
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Babble

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Just play the game and ignore (if there are any) scripters.
Who the hell cares if someone managed to get fishing to 120 or not?

Just shows determination and crazyness :p
 
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Coppelia

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It's pretty obvious the devs got mad when they saw some dedicated players going berserk on Imbueing and legendaring it in a couple days. Instead of understanding why these players did it so fast (and why some still haven't done it), they just decided for the next skill to slow down the process with the infamous lottery system.

They must have been really upset to crawl back to the fundamentals of the awful BOD system. There's no way it can be fun, it's a frustration dealer, but someone is actually paid to design that.
:coco:
 
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Babble

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Well Korean Grindgames have the same mindset.
Os there is a school of designers somewhere out there with the Motto 'Grinding keeps your customers p(l)aying'
:p
 

popps

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Just play the game and ignore (if there are any) scripters.
Who the hell cares if someone managed to get fishing to 120 or not?

Just shows determination and crazyness :p

The thing is, that if making it to Legendary fishing (without scripting) is difficult and time consuming, those few who could make it to that status would feel their title more prestigiusly since showing it would indicate their effort and dedication to the task.

Unfortunately, if the same goal is reacheable through scripting with little or hardly any effort, this means that the status of legendary Fisherman will be diluted in its appearance and meaning.

So, tolerating scripters to script their fishing to Legendary effectively hurts the efforts of dedicated players who worked hard to get there.

Tolerating scripting in fishing as well as other playing tasks is a slap in the face to all those players who do not script and yet, have to compete playing with a handicap versus those other players who script with hardly any consequence to their accounts.
 
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Babble

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Officially they are not tolerated and officially there is hardly any scripting.

And I agree that there is not a lot of scripting, as only a few powergamers script and those get rarer and rarer in UO.

But there is no way that there is no scripting or to stop scripting.

I assume no power player is bored enough to script such a useless skill like fishing to 120 for braggings sake.
Then I also hope that no player is either :p
 
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Coppelia

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Well Korean Grindgames have the same mindset.
Os there is a school of designers somewhere out there with the Motto 'Grinding keeps your customers p(l)aying'
:p
I prefer having to kill 1000 mobs to get the reward than killing mobs until a reward with 1/1000 probability drops.
 
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Babble

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Don't korean games have both .. endless grind for exp and the 'rare' drops?
:p
 
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Luke Carjacker

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Relax play a little dabble a little. They will come.
Actually no. Under the current system, a casual fisherman can expect to wait an average of something like 20-80 years to get a 120 scroll. RL years. At this rate, we've got a few years to wait before there's even 1 scroll per shard. So, unless they change the system, the only people who will every get 120 scrolls are the insanely dedicated, the incredibly lucky, or scripters.
 
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Babble

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Someone managed a 120 so it should only take a few years for someone with little luck
 

Bobar

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Well after I made this post I filled my outstanding orders so they are all full and ready to deliver. But my ship has not moved since then and wont be moving till the change comes.
 
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