(Question) State of Siege. PvP/Pks becoming endangered?

[kelmo]

Some few have always believed Siege is a PvP shard. It is not but that is another discussion.

The "I kill you and loot you" folks are leaving in droves.

I suspect the reason is we "adventurers" have adapted. I mentioned in another thread that many items and skills have come in to play. Some benefit predators, some benefit the "prey".

We all choose Siege for a reason. I like the format. I could be dead at any moment. I choose this. I am not relay safe anywhere.

Yet... I rarely die anymore. All the skills and abilities the PvP/Pk crew get... I do to. I think I win a fight if I survive. The PvP/PKer can feel as whatever they wish.

They try to kill me... I try get away. Some one will win. usually me... *chuckles*

I remember old times. When I met honorable opponents on the field. Those days seem distant. Now it all seems about items and sell back. And trash talk.

Pvpers? Clean up your house. You will become endangered if you do not. I have seen some efforts here. Fallow through.

Run the buggers off the shard. The rest of us? We will be here. Sometimes unseen and unheard. There are a lot of us here. We are just better at hiding than you are at finding us.

 

[kelmo]

Too be honest... I think the survivors are ahead.

 

[Vaelix]

Real PvPers have no interest in you kelmo, We never have.

Real PvPers are not PKers..

Pkers are those who are interested in Loot and Killing.

Pvpers are interested in the Fight that got them to that point.

That is all.

 

[Chardonnay]

Without PVP'ers and PK's a server is dead for MANY reasons such as SP...

You haven't "adapted" to **** the game is full of bugs with 1,000 different ways to NOT fight...

 

[kelmo]

*listens*

 

[Chardonnay]

Real PvPers have no interest in you kelmo, We never have.

Real PvPers are not PKers..

Pkers are those who are interested in Loot and Killing.

Pvpers are interested in the Fight that got them to that point.

That is all.

Your point is flawed you know why? How many months was PVP'ers buy/selling back gear that's for profit and not for PVP...

 

[Chardonnay]

Some few have always believed Siege is a PvP shard. It is not but that is another discussion.

The "I kill you and loot you" folks are leaving in droves.

I suspect the reason is we "adventurers" have adapted. I mentioned in another thread that many items and skills have come in to play. Some benefit predators, some benefit the "prey".

We all choose Siege for a reason. I like the format. I could be dead at any moment. I choose this. I am not relay safe anywhere.

Yet... I rarely die anymore. All the skills and abilities the PvP/Pk crew get... I do to. I think I win a fight if I survive. The PvP/PKer can feel as whatever they wish.

They try to kill me... I try get away. Some one will win. usually me... *chuckles*

I remember old times. When I met honorable opponents on the field. Those days seem distant. Now it all seems about items and sell back. And trash talk.

Pvpers? Clean up your house. You will become endangered if you do not. I have seen some efforts here. Fallow through.

Run the buggers off the shard. The rest of us? We will be here. Sometimes unseen and unheard. There are a lot of us here. We are just better at hiding than you are at finding us.

SP population shows it...

P.S. I like how your making this just about Pk/PVP'ers EVERYONE is leaving SP just not them...PvM'ers, Roleplayers...please if your gonna speak on something and sound all intelligent at least don't be bias about it like your "job."

Here's my proof where's your opinion?

http://town.uo.com/guilds/shard_13.html

 

[kelmo]

Your point is flawed you know why? How many months was PVP'ers buy/selling back gear that's for profit and not for PVP...

Your points are silly. I harken back to a time when gear was replacable. No one cryed back then... unless they were a *****.

 

[Chardonnay]

Your points are silly. I harken back to a time when gear was replacable. No one cryed back then... unless they were a *****.

I agree about faction gear that's not the debate...

NO your points silly because this just isn't about PVP/PK'ers it's about EVERYONE! Stop avoiding the point and answer the question...boy you love avoiding questions...

Where are the roleplaying guilds? Where are the PVP guilds? Where all 75% of the PvM'ers?

 

[Vaelix]

Your points are silly. I harken back to a time when gear was replacable. No one cryed back then... unless they were a *****.

Gear would still be easy to replace (In the Form of Faction Gear)

If those exact same "Not *******" hadn't cried in the first place.

 

[kelmo]

The debate is you PvPers/Pkers are dinosaurs. How do you feel about that?

 

[Chardonnay]

The debate is you PvPers/Pkers are dinosaurs. How do you feel about that?

On this server yes, on a populated server where there is actually people to kill then no...so SP is just for crafters and hidden farmers now is that what your saying? If PvP'ers and PK's leave a server why? Because it's dead...

Are you trying to prove a point or do something because your not looking very intelligent right now...

Hell, can't be that much of a dinosaur if it's got you hiding/stealthing and smokebombing every 15 seconds...or have crafters running around with stealth on...that or your too much of a ***** to lose your gm gear...

 

[Chardonnay]

Hell, let's put the PvP'ers aside and ask you how many people period have logged into Elmer's public vent...or better yet how many people talk in general chat...please don't make this a pk/pvp'er debate because it's not...it's a population in general...

That is all...

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Pking is damn near impossible on siege now, trust me, ive tried...i put tracking and detect on and i only have a few hours a day to play, unlike diablo who plays 16 hours a day because he doesnt have a house pmt, medical insurance to pay for, two kids and a wife and an acerage to take care of...and i went out looking in all the "hot spots"....i did this for a week or so straight at a few hours a night, didnt find one person, its like searching for a needle in a hay stack...if you dont beleive me...try it

 

[kelmo]

No. I am saying you PvP/PKers suck at finding us. You think you have adapted? Maybe for a regular shard... We Siege folk, the folks that live and die here. The truly hard core have adapted.

Is it any wonder we hide? We sneak around? There are hundreds of us out there. I see them them all the time.

We survivers have adapted. We are just better at it than you.

 

[Chardonnay]

Kelmo why don't you go ask Shalimar how busy NEW has been the last two years? Are they pk/pvpers too?

 

[Chardonnay]

No. I am saying you PvP/PKers suck at finding us. You think you have adapted? Maybe for a regular shard... We Siege folk, the folks that live and die here. The truly hard core have adapted.

Is it any wonder we hide? We sneak around? There are hundreds of us out there. I see them them all the time.

We survivers have adapted. We are just better at it than you.

Hundreds? Silly rabbit tricks are for kids...don't blow smoke up my ass please...

You keep saying "adapted" and i have no choice but to laugh. EA "adapted" for you...you didn't do ****...EA spread the land mass out to stupidity size...and everything is bugged right now to find you guys...

P.S. Can't find what's not there...

 

[Chardonnay]

Pking is damn near impossible on siege now, trust me, ive tried...i put tracking and detect on and i only have a few hours a day to play, unlike diablo who plays 16 hours a day because he doesnt have a house pmt, medical insurance to pay for, two kids and a wife and an acerage to take care of...and i went out looking in all the "hot spots"....i did this for a week or so straight at a few hours a night, didnt find one person, its like searching for a needle in a hay stack...if you dont beleive me...try it

QFT...

 

[kelmo]

This discussion is what I say it is. I can do that. The point is... PvP/PK is endangered. The escape skills are equal to the kill skills.

 

[Elmer Fudd]

No. I am saying you PvP/PKers suck at finding us. You think you have adapted? Maybe for a regular shard... We Siege folk, the folks that live and die here. The truly hard core have adapted.

Is it any wonder we hide? We sneak around? There are hundreds of us out there. I see them them all the time.

We survivers have adapted. We are just better at it than you.

My opinion is this....its a giant waist of my time...so lets see, im going to put hours of work in trying to find a bunch of hiding stealthing crafters out there in a HUGE land mass now, and when i finally come across one after weeks or months searching, i have to play the track detect/ conflag game and hope i get them only to obtain there shovels and junk gear with a few pots...wow...that sounds like a hoot....

I rather just go fight a red healer, they put up a better fight and have just as much loot on them and at least I dont have to search forever to find one...IMO


Im in no way trying to be argumentative, im a PvPer/Pker and im stricktly giving you my opinion for why i personally dont pk anymore....straight from the horses mouth....my .02 Cents

 

[Chardonnay]

This discussion is what I say it is. I can do that. The point is... PvP/PK is endangered. The escape skills are equal to the kill skills.

Actually the escape skills are not equal their better because conflag pots are bugged and tracking is bugged too...or did you forget about that?

P.S. Where is KSS and CWS and C8V BTW? Where is all the blue guilds that weren't pk/pvp guilds btw?

 

[kelmo]

*chuckles* Would you like a tissue? Siege is what it is. It moves on. With or with it you.

 

[Vaelix]

No. I am saying you PvP/PKers suck at finding us. You think you have adapted? Maybe for a regular shard... We Siege folk, the folks that live and die here. The truly hard core have adapted.

Is it any wonder we hide? We sneak around? There are hundreds of us out there. I see them them all the time.

We survivers have adapted. We are just better at it than you.

You haven't adapted ****, The Pkers are just less interested.

Combine that with that Fact that PKing in the First place is Generally boring (For most of us).

And we get to exactly where we are.

 

[kelmo]

I have no control over EA bugs. Get off my ass.

 

[kelmo]

You haven't adapted ****, The Pkers are just less interested.

Combine that with that Fact that PKing in the First place is Generally boring (For most of us).

And we get to exactly where we are.

I have adapted... just so you know.

 

[Chardonnay]

*chuckles* Would you like a tissue? Siege is what it is. It moves on. With or with it you.

So you have nothing to say and had to come back at me with a troll? Wow, you been playing SP for how long and you're that utterly clueless? Your right though it does move on with or without people your right about that!

 

[Chardonnay]

I have no control over EA bugs. Get off my ass.

Then quit trying to be smart and saying it's equal when it's not and you know it!

 

[Chardonnay]

I have adapted... just so you know.

You haven't adapted to ****...it's just the server is dead and you rarely ever see people because if this server was populated you would be the samething you was before a permacorpse...

Not too mention the two times i ran into you and conflag pots did work you died...conflag pots don't and i can't kill you...not too mention my tracking arrow is all over the damn screen...please dont be smug like you can't be killed half your defense is bugged ****...

 

[Vaelix]

I have adapted... just so you know.

IMO.. PKing is dying in general.

Most players have gotten to the Point that they have become PvPers and left the PK type of game behind.

Because once you can actually compete on a Level with other players in PvP, killing some old water-bag that offers absolutely no challenge seems less.. Interesting.

(And Old Water-bag is a Generalization for Poorly skilled pvmers, as I wanted to use it for some reason, I'm not calling you anything Mr.Kelmo Sir..)

 

[Vaelix]

I rather just go fight a red healer, they put up a better fight and have just as much loot on them and at least I dont have to search forever to find one...IMO

Ding Ding Ding - We have a Winner!

 

[kelmo]

So you have nothing to say and had to come back at me with a troll? Wow, you been playing SP for how long and you're that utterly clueless? Your right though it does move on with or without people your right about that!

Really? You want to throw the how long Siege has been my home in my face? get a clue.

 

[Chardonnay]

I'm done with this subject i made my point...

 

[Vaelix]

http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-siege-perilous/227468-siege-trolls-trash-talkers-beware.html

Either way, The Art of Pking, generally becomes less appealing once you reach "PvPhood"

 

[kelmo]

I'm done with this subject i made my point...

Run along then... The point still stands. And you bought nothing.

 

[Chardonnay]

http://vboards.stratics.com/uo-siege-perilous/227468-siege-trolls-trash-talkers-beware.html

Either way, The Art of Pking, generally becomes less appealing once you reach "PvPhood"

Ya, because playing the gimpest template of the month or playing the most overpowering template till EA fixes it takes real skill!

 

[Kat]

This discussion is what I say it is. I can do that. The point is... PvP/PK is endangered. The escape skills are equal to the kill skills.

Chard's point is that the entire Siege population is endangered... and sadly, he is 100% correct.

 

[Chardonnay]

Run along then... The point still stands. And you bought nothing.

I brought a lot you just couldn't answer anything with intelligence then resorted to trolling...rolleyes:

Like i said before read all my posts then answer them then i'll troll with you until then get a clue...

Go talk to Shalimar and tell me how active NEW has been recently...

 

[Elmer Fudd]

I'm done with this subject i made my point...

Im sad, i made a point i thought and kelmo wont talk to me now......lol

 

[Chardonnay]

Chard's point is that the entire Siege population is endangered... and sadly, he is 100% correct.

This is where Kelmo with come in with a comment on how you need a tissue or SP will still be here when everyone leaves...

 

[Chardonnay]

Im sad, i made a point i thought and kelmo wont talk to me now......lol

He's a professional at it...and he says i'm clueless...

 

[kelmo]

Chard's point is that the entire Siege population is endangered... and sadly, he is 100% correct.

You speak for him now? I wish I had known that earlier. It would have made this a lot easier.

 

[Chardonnay]

You speak for him now? I wish I had known that earlier. It would have made this a lot easier.

No, she's using common sense...and has her own opinion...sadly you're clueless...

 

[kelmo]

Run off to the corner Chard... Let the adults discuss this.

 

[Vaelix]

Run off to the corner Chard... Let the adults discuss this.

This would make sense if you hadnt spent this whole thread going back and forth with Chard.

 

[Chardonnay]

Run off to the corner Chard... Let the adults discuss this.

Let me know how that works out for you...

 

[Kat]

Chard's point is that the entire Siege population is endangered... and sadly, he is 100% correct.

You speak for him now? I wish I had known that earlier. It would have made this a lot easier.

I tried to for a while, but the big dummy didn't like sitting on my lap with my hand up his butt.

 

[kelmo]

This would make sense if you hadnt spent this whole thread going back and forth with Chard.

Kinda owed it to him. It will not happen any more.

 

[kelmo]

Can we get back on topic?

 

[Elmer Fudd]

I tried to for a while, but the big dummy didn't like sitting on my lap with my hand up his butt.

Have you been talking to Haha again?

 

[Kat]

I tried to for a while, but the big dummy didn't like sitting on my lap with my hand up his butt.

Have you been talking to Haha again?

HaHa and I have much in common! I have a pretty funny story for him, now that you mention it! Can't post it here, though. I'm pretty sure most folks around here won't appreciate the story quite as much as he will.