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For those who think that processes on your computer aren't being monitored.
Well obviously we can't "prove" anything. Forums aren't a medium that supports any kind of proof that would hold up in a court of law. EA doesn't discuss bans and account suspensions, and very few of those who do get banned will ever admit to it happening. So the best you can do is guess based on what you see in game.
I know a number of people that disappeared a few weeks ago in two waves. Most of them only disappeared for a period of time, but a few have disappeared and never come back. Now again, there could be any one of a number of possible reasons for them disappearing, but the coincidence is nonetheless, rather striking.
Guess I will need your name and address for that cakeNow send me a cake
PS. Bestest I know isnt a word but it bloody should be lol
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Lustig als'Holle
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olduofan
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does it really matter at this point ?
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Vyal
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Still your wrong. It's illegal to do this even the government doesn't have rights to do that.
Here is an example: You buy your internet from Comcast, now do they sit there and watch what you do 24/7? No you need a warrant for something like that.
There are ways to find out what programs are reading into the hex on the client & manipulating it. For example that is how UOA runs. UOA simply reads the code on the client it is just a matter of finding out what line of code concerns what.
Everything in UO would be held in some kinda of temporary string in the hex(line of code) so your exact location, the items in your pack, the item your holding and everything else you see on your screen could be manipulated thru the hex & these programs are very very easy to get on the internet they are also easy for anyone to develop such a program.
Now what UO needs to do is make some sorta mod that runs inside the client that can detect what programs are doing that. That doesn't mean monitering everything on your PC cause that would be against the law in about every country. I'm not going to take the time to figure out a good way to go about doing it I will try to point someone in the right direction maybe look at how Steam checks for 3rd party apps and go from there.
Here is an example: You buy your internet from Comcast, now do they sit there and watch what you do 24/7? No you need a warrant for something like that.
There are ways to find out what programs are reading into the hex on the client & manipulating it. For example that is how UOA runs. UOA simply reads the code on the client it is just a matter of finding out what line of code concerns what.
Everything in UO would be held in some kinda of temporary string in the hex(line of code) so your exact location, the items in your pack, the item your holding and everything else you see on your screen could be manipulated thru the hex & these programs are very very easy to get on the internet they are also easy for anyone to develop such a program.
Now what UO needs to do is make some sorta mod that runs inside the client that can detect what programs are doing that. That doesn't mean monitering everything on your PC cause that would be against the law in about every country. I'm not going to take the time to figure out a good way to go about doing it I will try to point someone in the right direction maybe look at how Steam checks for 3rd party apps and go from there.
Its legal. Companies like Blizzard does it and the courts has already voted in their favor.
So go get a lawyer and waste your money. LOL.
Aw cmon man it's so easy to do.
Relly? Got a source for that?
I can get ban's wiped off my records, use the transfer a account option
According to the OP, he is wrong. They cannot do that for few simple reasons, this is a multi national game - and such a statement will be overuled by the international privacy protection laws and individual laws in different contries.
If they ever is caught in such a thing, to monitor processess running on computers - it would mean the end of EA. They would soak in law suits from the world over, and the fact that many players install uo on their work computers - will just raise that law suit scale to a 'guiness record official'.
Is no way they would risk that, even if they could - or want.
I see the range of players that could have it installed, so by doing so - they would be treathed as a hacer, - if they monitor a computer process belonging to a goverment computer, a spy if its in development etc. And with the varety of law suits in the US - they can be sued for everything your imagination can come up with.
But, they can figure out other ways that will help them caught scripters, - and that Im sure of they have done.
If they ever is caught in such a thing, to monitor processess running on computers - it would mean the end of EA. They would soak in law suits from the world over, and the fact that many players install uo on their work computers - will just raise that law suit scale to a 'guiness record official'.
Is no way they would risk that, even if they could - or want.
I see the range of players that could have it installed, so by doing so - they would be treathed as a hacer, - if they monitor a computer process belonging to a goverment computer, a spy if its in development etc. And with the varety of law suits in the US - they can be sued for everything your imagination can come up with.
But, they can figure out other ways that will help them caught scripters, - and that Im sure of they have done.
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Vyal
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Take Microsoft getting sued over being racist because Kinect can read better off a white person then a black person. It's that easy to sue someone over stuff
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*shrugs*
sueing someone does not mean anything
sueing someone does not mean anything
Gaming companies should be the least of your worries as to who knows what about your pc. Many moons ago, the German government scrapped windows when they found out some US agency was reading official emails before they were.
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hehe
There is more than enough data about everything we do about, but as long as the police or a judge does not ask for the data who cares
Seriously. This thread is nothing more than an attempt to smear mmo companies for reasons god only knows why. And the creator of this thread? An mmo player, lol. One would think if you're so concerned about it you wouldn't be playing an mmo.
Wrong. Patriot act. Also you sign away pretty much all your rights to EA when you log into the UO servers.
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Vyal
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This thread is stupid.
Patriot Act is with regard to threats of terrorism...
Ever take the time to ponder the amount of personal data Google is now sitting on? There are repercussions to everything. You know, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction? PF is correct.
Yes because Google has anything to do with the Patriot Act.
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Babble
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Google does not worry me as much as my isp which really has all the data of what I downloaded
I realize that this probably isn't going to help any, but I'll say it anyway. Yes game developers have the legal right to identify and monitor any process which may interact with the services they are providing. Is your privacy at risk? From game companies, no.
Game companies have no rights to any information that may be on your computer beyond information on processes which may interact with the services they provide. They would have to be suicidal to use that information to do anything other than improve and/or protect the services they provide from attacks (and yes cheating is a form of attack).
However Restroom and Babble are correct. Search engines like Google collect an enormous amount of information on your personal surfing habits. They use that information to tailor advertisements specifically for each individual user and other purposes, and there are some very valid privacy concerns in my opinion. Google uses that information to make it's product, advertising, more attractive to advertisers, and it also sells that information in other ways. Google has already had it's knuckles rapped at least once for the way it gathers information and the kind of information it gathers.
Your isp on the other hand has records of absolutely everything you do on the internet. There is no anonimity on the internet if you are a client of a major commercial service provider. 99.99999% of the time no one is going to care what you do, however, if you run afoul of the law in some way you will have nowhere to hide if the internet has played any part in your illegal activities...
Game companies have no rights to any information that may be on your computer beyond information on processes which may interact with the services they provide. They would have to be suicidal to use that information to do anything other than improve and/or protect the services they provide from attacks (and yes cheating is a form of attack).
However Restroom and Babble are correct. Search engines like Google collect an enormous amount of information on your personal surfing habits. They use that information to tailor advertisements specifically for each individual user and other purposes, and there are some very valid privacy concerns in my opinion. Google uses that information to make it's product, advertising, more attractive to advertisers, and it also sells that information in other ways. Google has already had it's knuckles rapped at least once for the way it gathers information and the kind of information it gathers.
Your isp on the other hand has records of absolutely everything you do on the internet. There is no anonimity on the internet if you are a client of a major commercial service provider. 99.99999% of the time no one is going to care what you do, however, if you run afoul of the law in some way you will have nowhere to hide if the internet has played any part in your illegal activities...
Guess I will need your name and address for that cake
Ah how nice but maybe one day I'll come in your vent and come say hi to you and some of the others if they are still playing
