[UO Herald] Publish 68.3 Released to Origin - Today!

[watchertoo]

[size=+1]Publish 68.3 Released to Origin - Today![/size]
James Nichols
26 Oct 2010 17:04:24 EST

Update - 6:00PM EDT: While we did not previously provide an ETA we wanted to inform players that we anticipate downtime for Origin to last up to two additional hours (8:00PM EDT). We appreciate your patience while we deploy this publish, thank you.

Greetings!

We are pleased to announce to release of Publish 68.3 to Origin today at approximately 5:00PM EDT , below you can find out what's new - thanks and have fun.

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[canary]

Awesome, thank you.

My only complaint is that I see those loyal to the Bane Chosen get their own quest.

Really??

Why is UO notorious for 'rewarding' anti Virtuous behavior in game constantly? Its baffling. Aren't we still waiting for the Meer to be able to do a quest and render rewards?

Edit: Can we please get the Slither talisman to finally be dyeable? I can't imagine this would be difficult to code.

 

[Adol]

As I just said in the thread below... Magincia is the city of Humility. Cal has indicated we aren't exactly being humble by aiding the bane. Therefore, the fact that there is no reward yet for fighting the Bane may in fact be entirely the point; We should be fighting the Bane, in a humble and unselfish way, until the Meer and Ophidians (whose reputation we can gain with them has also risen you'll notice) love us to bits... and maybe we'll have more hands for the effort of restoring Magincia to it's previous state of Virtue...

 

[canary]

As I just said in the thread below... Magincia is the city of Humility. Cal has indicated we aren't exactly being humble by aiding the bane. Therefore, the fact that there is no reward yet for fighting the Bane may in fact be entirely the point; We should be fighting the Bane, in a humble and unselfish way, until the Meer and Ophidians (whose reputation we can gain with them has also risen you'll notice) love us to bits... and maybe we'll have more hands for the effort of restoring Magincia to it's previous state of Virtue...

And that's great, and that's what I would LOVE to see, but let's also remain a bit cautious... we've went round and round about this and we've gotten:

*runics for those who assisted in blowing up Haven

*glass daggers

*rubble for those who wantonly assisted in destroying Magincia

I'd like to believe that yes, there will be a reward. Some may say 'good is its own reward'... and that's a nice sentiment, in RP terms. It does get frustrating though when you see that they continuously provide more benefits for doing the wrong thing. From a standpoint as a paying subscriber, it gets old seeing that my in game choices do not benefit me as they might others who choose, in character, morally questionable methods. And this far, the UO development team track record hasn't really been in their favor, regardless of Cal's vague statement.

 

[Rumil of Lorain]

Seems I have use for the MIB's I couldnt sell on my vendor, and now there a lot easier to get to with the EC map

 

[Viquire]

And that's great, and that's what I would LOVE to see, but let's also remain a bit cautious... we've went round and round about this and we've gotten:

*runics for those who assisted in blowing up Haven

*glass daggers

*rubble for those who wantonly assisted in destroying Magincia

I'd like to believe that yes, there will be a reward. Some may say 'good is its own reward'... and that's a nice sentiment, in RP terms. It does get frustrating though when you see that they continuously provide more benefits for doing the wrong thing. From a standpoint as a paying subscriber, it gets old seeing that my in game choices do not benefit me as they might others who choose, in character, morally questionable methods. And this far, the UO development team track record hasn't really been in their favor, regardless of Cal's vague statement.

They always give the carrot for advancing the story line as they have it planned out. Good and Evil have little to do with it. Or in other words, "It's in the script!"

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

They always give the carrot for advancing the story line as they have it planned out. Good and Evil have little to do with it. Or in other words, "It's in the script!"

There is plot advancement here? I'll believe it when I see it.

They've had MONTHS to make the Bane Chosen relavent, give more info about their true master, do something other then give vague and uninteresting hints about the future. (If it wasn't for EMs trying to fill in holes, this story would be DoA)

This meta storyline is dull and going nowhere at a snail's pace. If its going to end by January (without massive plot holes) they need to get a move on.

 

[Bman]

They always give the carrot for advancing the story line as they have it planned out. Good and Evil have little to do with it. Or in other words, "It's in the script!"

uummm... scripting is illegal isnt it?

 

[MalagAste]

Actually more and more of late you get more from being anti community and anti virtue than you do from trying to follow virtue.

Sad they continually promote evil selfish behavior.

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

Sad they continually promote evil selfish behavior.

I don't believe they (the Devs) know how to promote Virtue or community.

 

[canary]

They always give the carrot for advancing the story line as they have it planned out. Good and Evil have little to do with it. Or in other words, "It's in the script!"

You and I both know that's rubbish. They choose what to do with the storyline and how to go about it.

Example to aid 'The Good Guys Cause':

* Let's say that all monsters currently on Magincia would give 'kill points'. Not merely the war points we are now being given, but points that would go into a pool of the actual Magincia war. Perhaps you could get a title of it 'Defender of Humility', 'Observer of Humility', etc etc... or some such.

* Put interesting armor pieces of dragon armor on the bad guys on Magincia. Say there are six pieces you need to loot to create a set, and it would be something akin to the Sorcerers's Set, Knight's Set, Scout's Set, etc. Not all powerful, but a decent set that both collectors and general players could enjoy.

See? There's two positives from being 'good', and it took all of three minutes to think of it.

I just wish someone over at the UO offices understood that, just because my characters fight for good, there is from a PLAYERS standpoint, other incentives that would add to its fun.

 

[popps]

I thought ML ingredients were going to be added in the fishing chests revamp !!

Instead, I read :

Small chance to pull up a ship StrongBox instead of a MIB Chest

* Strong Box Contains:
10Kgold per difficulty level
Regular Gems 20 per level
Big Gems (Difficulty *5 + random 0-4)
Gold or Copper Ingots

Where are the ML ingredients that I understood were coming with the fishing chests revamp ??

 

[Adol]

I agree with you Canary that there should be a visible concept of Progress involved; because without any certainty that there is a plot to advance, any later disappointment will be intensely magnified. And these things need to have a coherent and satisfying when complete arc, so as not to sour the whole experience. I hated that the corruption of Yew event was failed when I first played way back when, as I personally cured 2 of the trees outright, but because we did it too fast (on Europa all the trees were done within an hour of the event going live IIRC) we failed a hidden second part of the event, and left Yew cursed. We were damned for our success.

As it currently is now, I'm fighting at Spirituality Gate where the Bane currently still are, because with all the demons and hell hounds on Magincia, it's far more efficient to fight there. As it stands, the Meer love me where ever I'm fighting, and with there being no "creeping evil" or wilting Tree of Humility or anything at all except notification outside the Games' Lore that it's even connected to Magincia's fate, why would my character worry about not being there himself?

If you read my comments elsewhere on the Bane War (here, and here for instance ) you'll notice I've been agreeing with this criticism in fact for quite some time. What I think is going to happen for the finale is this... but again, none of this is coming from in game events, only from outside fiction, and my own application of hope and inspiration to it. My character so far hasn't really experienced any of this. His understanding of the event so far is best summed up by this; Invisible crystal ninjas and a monarch who runs off into town because the plot requires the crystal to be lost? Oh dear...

 

[Obsidian]

Where is a good spot with a solitary hell hound spawn?

-OBSIDIAN-

 

[popps]

Where is a good spot with a solitary hell hound spawn?

-OBSIDIAN-

What for ?

 

[Viper09]

What for ?

Halloween event........?

but know that giving treats to hellhounds this time of year is not for the faint of heart!

 

[Viquire]

What in the name of thunder are we doing?

This is the longest shard down for publish I can recall in quite some time.

 

[Viper09]

Where is a good spot with a solitary hell hound spawn?

-OBSIDIAN-

I think the entrance to the fire dungeon from the T2A side will have some solitary hell hounds or at the very least a small spawn.

 

[Shelleybean]

I'm really excited about this publish. Does anyone know if big gems mean ML gems?

 

[Skrag]

I just came back for Return to Britannia a while back and have essentially 0 loyalty reputation with anyone. Hitting 7500 loyalty would require me to slaughter 2500 meer.

Is there a faster way to raise loyalty, or is this just not for me?

 

[Viquire]

I'm really excited about this publish. Does anyone know if big gems mean ML gems?

Not yet. Got a fisher on Origin?

 

[Viquire]

I just came back for Return to Britannia a while back and have essentially 0 loyalty reputation with anyone. Hitting 7500 loyalty would require me to slaughter 2500 meer.

Is there a faster way to raise loyalty, or is this just not for me?

What are you talking about? Any dark lord that scoffs at copyright law surely has no qualms with killing a small town of Meer, yes?

 

[Adol]

Ok, having now gone through the patch CLILOC with a friend, I now know what the two Live Event quests are. No spoilers, but let's just say it's an interesting approach, and it actually does encourage virtuous, and rejection of virtuous play as it's already understood within the game world. It seems the Devs have been listening! Whether the Quest rewards are themselves going to be a form of accounting, as in we have to present them at some later date... we shall see!

 

[Skrag]

What are you talking about? Any dark lord that scoffs at copyright law surely has no qualms with killing a small town of Meer, yes?

I don't mind wiping the floor with those filthy Meer, but any quest where I find myself staring (literally or figuratively) at a kill counter reading 0/2500 is one I'm abandoning.

 

[Siabra]

Wasn't the shard to be up- after the NEW estimate - at about 8pm EST .. now its 9:15 and no Origin

 

[Adol]

I just came back for Return to Britannia a while back and have essentially 0 loyalty reputation with anyone. Hitting 7500 loyalty would require me to slaughter 2500 meer.

Is there a faster way to raise loyalty, or is this just not for me?

Well presuming you want to continue your Dark Lord persona, there is not any other way to raise it quickly in the time you've been back; it's predicated on you being involved in the Bane - Ophidian war, and perhaps slapping about a few Meer in the intervening months so already being known to either faction.

MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

The first, virtuous quest doesn't involve any reputation as far as I know to take it, and the quest targets can be bought. They will however require a certain amount of grinding to get if you choose to do it yourself. I shan't say what those targets are, they'll be known soon enough though, if ever Origin comes back The second quest, which is the Bane quest

Spoiler

and cannot be done without collecting the Book of Truth from the first part, which is mentioned in the Herald post.

does require the 7500 Bane rep as mentioned. This leads to an item which may or may not be involved in the final plot resolution; I would be surprised if it wasn't, or at least completing the quest didn't flag the over all arc as somehow being more Bane sympathetic

Spoiler

because it leads to you being initiated into the Bane yourself, and having the Book of Truth corrupted and personalized for you.

But as the only way to get there is to be thoroughly Bane in the first place, which means rounding up some buddies and getting to 7500 naughty-points as quickly as possible if you want to have an influence (I presume) this late in the game. Sorry.

 

[Trebr Drab]

Well presuming you want to continue your Dark Lord persona, there is not any other way to raise it quickly in the time you've been back; it's predicated on you being involved in the Bane - Ophidian war, and perhaps slapping about a few Meer in the intervening months so already being known to either faction.

MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

The first, virtuous quest doesn't involve any reputation as far as I know to take it, and the quest targets can be bought. They will however require a certain amount of grinding to get if you choose to do it yourself. I shan't say what those targets are, they'll be known soon enough though, if ever Origin comes back The second quest, which is the Bane quest

Spoiler

and cannot be done without collecting the Book of Truth from the first part, which is mentioned in the Herald post.

does require the 7500 Bane rep as mentioned. This leads to an item which may or may not be involved in the final plot resolution; I would be surprised if it wasn't, or at least completing the quest didn't flag the over all arc as somehow being more Bane sympathetic

Spoiler

because it leads to you being initiated into the Bane yourself, and having the Book of Truth corrupted and personalized for you.

But as the only way to get there is to be thoroughly Bane in the first place, which means rounding up some buddies and getting to 7500 naughty-points as quickly as possible if you want to have an influence (I presume) this late in the game. Sorry.

While us "good guys" can do nothing about the slaughter. And even once that ultimate goal is reached for the bad guys, really, what's it mean besides more unrealistic non-conflict?

 

[Demonous]

why is origin up but no 13th yr anny gifts ?

 

[Obsidian]

I think the entrance to the fire dungeon from the T2A side will have some solitary hell hounds or at the very least a small spawn.

Thank you. And yes, the Halloween event was exactly why I asked. I wonder what happens when you feed the hell hounds. It must turn into some uber-werewolf like beast. Could be interesting if everyone is congregating at the few hell hound spawns in game.

I was hoping for another event like last year's hag quest with the sparkles, but I am sure this will be fun nonetheless.

-OBSIDIAN-

 

[Siabra]

I LOgged onto Origin a little while ago - the guy at the Umbra Moongate is there peddling his Hellhound Treats -

My Char is more than 30 days old- it doesn't give me the message saying "your to young to get a gift" ......checked in the bank ( just in case) but there was nother there- so how when do we get the 13th Anniv Gitfs please

Thank you

 

[canary]

While us "good guys" can do nothing about the slaughter. And even once that ultimate goal is reached for the bad guys, really, what's it mean besides more unrealistic non-conflict?

It's nice to know the hours I have put in game to assist Magincia mean absolutely nothing... but hey! Evil gets another bone tossed its way.

Do most of the dev team (aside from Mesanna) listen at ALL to the players? Ever? It's not like we haven't discussed this before.

 

[Skrag]

Is this quest going away on the 15th like the Halloween stuff?

 

[hawkeye_pike]

Great changes!

Can someone please clarify about the "difficulty levels" mentioned in the MIB changes? Currently, there's only one type of MIB. Will this change? What happens to the old MIBs?

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

I just came back for Return to Britannia a while back and have essentially 0 loyalty reputation with anyone. Hitting 7500 loyalty would require me to slaughter 2500 meer.

Is there a faster way to raise loyalty, or is this just not for me?

Well presuming you want to continue your Dark Lord persona, there is not any other way to raise it quickly in the time you've been back; it's predicated on you being involved in the Bane - Ophidian war, and perhaps slapping about a few Meer in the intervening months so already being known to either faction.

MINOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

The first, virtuous quest doesn't involve any reputation as far as I know to take it, and the quest targets can be bought. They will however require a certain amount of grinding to get if you choose to do it yourself. I shan't say what those targets are, they'll be known soon enough though, if ever Origin comes back The second quest, which is the Bane quest

Spoiler

and cannot be done without collecting the Book of Truth from the first part, which is mentioned in the Herald post.

does require the 7500 Bane rep as mentioned. This leads to an item which may or may not be involved in the final plot resolution; I would be surprised if it wasn't, or at least completing the quest didn't flag the over all arc as somehow being more Bane sympathetic

Spoiler

because it leads to you being initiated into the Bane yourself, and having the Book of Truth corrupted and personalized for you.

But as the only way to get there is to be thoroughly Bane in the first place, which means rounding up some buddies and getting to 7500 naughty-points as quickly as possible if you want to have an influence (I presume) this late in the game. Sorry.

EPIC FAIL, DEV TEAM.

​

 

[It Lives]

Hawkeye_Pike

Mib treasure chests have 4 lvs, level one having 1k in gold, lv2 2k and so forth

level four, 4k gold(ancient scroll chest)

so if it goes anything like that......

 

[Crysta]

Great changes!

Can someone please clarify about the "difficulty levels" mentioned in the MIB changes? Currently, there's only one type of MIB. Will this change? What happens to the old MIBs?

MIBs have always had invisible "difficulty levels" similar to the chest ones.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Hawkeye_Pike

Mib treasure chests have 4 lvs, level one having 1k in gold, lv2 2k and so forth

level four, 4k gold(ancient scroll chest)

so if it goes anything like that......

There are only two types of SOSs

 

[Crysta]

There are only two types of SOSs

Outwardly yes, but he's right as to the levels of them.

 

[Skrag]

I will totally kill 2500 meer eventually. Just not before the 15th. Hope the quest sticks around.

 

[Potgut]

I was hoping blue crystallized essence would come into play again since its been 1 year since I heard we'd be able to use them for something else again if we held on to some...

 

[SixUnder]

seriously if those are the items im gonna be sick.

thanks for 13 years, how about a vase or a rack?

what a joke.

 

[SixUnder]

EPIC FAIL, DEV TEAM.

​

 

[Smokin]

seriously if those are the items im gonna be sick.

thanks for 13 years, how about a vase or a rack?

what a joke.

These are not 13 year vet rewards. They anniversary gifts meaning if your char is 30 days old you get them. Its better then 5th year cake or something silly we have gotten in the past.

 

[Martyna Zmuir]

Nosferatu the Counter...


REALLY?


Seriously, did you guys not learn your lesson from the saltpeter debacle? Why have YET ANOTHER solitary NPC that you HAVE to buy something from that has a limited supply?

Once again scriptors will have a field day with this, instantly buying it out and screwing the rest of their shard.

WTG.

 

[MalagAste]

Nosferautu the Counter...


REALLY?


Seriously, did you guys not learn your lesson from the saltpeter debacle? Why have YET ANOTHER solitary NPC that you HAVE to buy something from that has a limited supply?

Once again scriptors will have a field day with this, instantly buying it out and screwing the rest of their shard.

WTG.

Fantastic can't wait till this goes out... I guess I may as well just stick to trick or treating... and forget everything else.



I give up.

 

[It Lives]

There are only two types of SOSs

Yes correct but there are four levels of chest loot. Having done close to 1000's mibs.... but do not take my word for it.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Yes correct but there are four levels of chest loot. Having done close to 1000's mibs.... but do not take my word for it.

So how do you tell what you have or is it just random

 

[It Lives]

Lord Frodo, I Have never been able to tell until it has been fished up.

It has always been pretty random, was just my best guess to Hawkeye's question concerning difficulty levels as mentioned in the patch notes.

 

[Lord Frodo]

Lord Frodo, I Have never been able to tell until it has been fished up.

It has always been pretty random, was just my best guess to Hawkeye's question concerning difficulty levels as mentioned in the patch notes.

TY I have over 50 MIBs and waiting till Baja gets the patch before turning them into MIBs. Doing a lot of fishing lately and saving them. Now I am glad I did.

 

[G.v.P]

In case anyone is wondering, the Lower Ammo Cost cap is 50%. Just wanted to throw that out there now that there is a second item with the prop.