Strength and Archery

[Vorkosi]

Hello,

I'm an old player that recently returned to Ultima and was looking for confirmation that strength no longer gives a damage bonus to archery. I've seen some mixed information around the web so wanted to make sure this was the case according to Connor's archery guide.

Thanks

 

[Pinco]

I don't know where you have read about this, but is a fake.
The strength still give a damage bonus like all other weapons (I've just tested it for be sure on the TC)

 

[Vorkosi]

I don't know where you have read about this, but is a fake.
The strength still give a damage bonus like all other weapons (I've just tested it for be sure on the TC)

Professions - The Archer

From that guide by Connor Graham, at the bottom of the Skill Overview section.

 

[Pinco]

I don't know what to say, its wrong, even in the status bar the damage will raise when you change the strength

 

[Vorkosi]

I don't know what to say, its wrong, even in the status bar the damage will raise when you change the strength

I would agree, perhaps Connor was meaning the 100 strength bonus? I would like to hear from Connor himself though if he has time to reply since it's his guide as to what that line means exactly.

 

[Pinco]

ok, but the best way to know that is log to tc, put a bow in your hand and change your strength

 

[Connor_Graham]

Hello,

I'm an old player that recently returned to Ultima and was looking for confirmation that strength no longer gives a damage bonus to archery. I've seen some mixed information around the web so wanted to make sure this was the case according to Connor's archery guide.

Thanks

To be honest, it's been so long since I wrote that guide that I can't recall the exact question I had asked the Dev who was providing my information. Rewriting the Archery guide was a massive project to research and put together, so unfortunately, trying to remember one line among 10+ pages worth of facts and figures is beyond me. It may refer to an actual "bonus" at 100 Strength (such as the bonus for having GM Tactics or GM Anatomy), and not the normal effect Strength has on weapon damage, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. That seems likely though. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

 

[Old Man of UO]

If you really want to know, easy enough to test this on TC1.

 

[Vorkosi]

To be honest, it's been so long since I wrote that guide that I can't recall the exact question I had asked the Dev who was providing my information. Rewriting the Archery guide was a massive project to research and put together, so unfortunately, trying to remember one line among 10+ pages worth of facts and figures is beyond me. It may refer to an actual "bonus" at 100 Strength (such as the bonus for having GM Tactics or GM Anatomy), and not the normal effect Strength has on weapon damage, but I can't say that with 100% certainty. That seems likely though. Sorry I couldn't be more help.

That's understandable, I guess a better questiion now would be what stats would you suggest for an Elven ABC archer with 240 max stats? I'm currently at 80/125/35, but even with meditation, the extra mana for being an elf, and the mana increase item I have I still tend to have mana problems. Should I not be using Lightning Strike every shot?

 

[[JD]]

That's understandable, I guess a better questiion now would be what stats would you suggest for an Elven ABC archer with 240 max stats? I'm currently at 80/125/35, but even with meditation, the extra mana for being an elf, and the mana increase item I have I still tend to have mana problems. Should I not be using Lightning Strike every shot?

you need to buy a stat scroll... no way around it should be able to pick up a 15 or 20 not too expensive... or even a 25 if you get rolling in the dough

aside from that, run the spirit of totem. the extra 20 str will let you drop trained str and put it into int. and the 15 hci is nice

run tangle for 10 int unless you need the 10 dex.

get a few imbued pieces with +mana, or run rbg

make sure you have SOME lmc.. more is always better but 20 is minimum

lightning strike is the cheapest special you have.. you can consider mana leech bows also: di, ssi, hit spell, balance, rest in mana leech

make sure at a minimum you're getting the first mana discount based on your skills.

cant give too much more info without specific suit info from you. makin stabs in the dark here til we hear more

 

[Vorkosi]

you need to buy a stat scroll... no way around it should be able to pick up a 15 or 20 not too expensive... or even a 25 if you get rolling in the dough

aside from that, run the spirit of totem. the extra 20 str will let you drop trained str and put it into int. and the 15 hci is nice

run tangle for 10 int unless you need the 10 dex.

get a few imbued pieces with +mana, or run rbg

make sure you have SOME lmc.. more is always better but 20 is minimum

lightning strike is the cheapest special you have.. you can consider mana leech bows also: di, ssi, hit spell, balance, rest in mana leech

make sure at a minimum you're getting the first mana discount based on your skills.

cant give too much more info without specific suit info from you. makin stabs in the dark here til we hear more

Sounds good, it looks like most of my issues will need to be solved with gear I don't have yet. Thanks for the information!

 

[Zalan]

The strength bonus is not suppose to apply to archery last I knew. However, archers are getting the bonus. It may have something to do with throwing being allowed to have a strength bonus. & pesky coding issues. Lets consider it a feature & not a bug