Will the ocean be big enough?

[Gheed]

I didn't watch all of the town hall so I don't know if this was discussed. But this booster got me thinking back to the 8x8 days. There was a time when you could not sail the seas w/o frequently bumping into some other boat. There is just as much sea as there is land I know, but there will definitely be congested hot spots. Was there any talk at the town hall about making the ocean a bit bigger?

 

[LeBaiton]

I hope they'll put Tokuno's seas to good use. If so, yes, there will be enough ocean

 

[Nimuaq]

They mentioned something like one boat at a time per character.

 

[Schuyler Bain]

I hope they'll put Tokuno's seas to good use. If so, yes, there will be enough ocean

Agreed - There are plenty of waters to be sailed I just hope we get to use them all and I suspect we will.

 

[Schuyler Bain]

They mentioned something like one boat at a time per character.

This is how I understood it as well. 1 ship deployed at a time + a skiff (row boat). You may own as many as you like (in deed form), but only one active at a time, per character.

They also mentioned doing something with all the current boats that are on the sea now. Some sort of pack up or dry dock so you don't lose anything in your hold, but enforcing the 1 ship per character when it goes live.

 

[Trebr Drab]

I wish they'd add a server at each edge of the map (2 total) and vastly increase the size of the seas.

Then add numerous small Islands for exploration, some with ruins, some with small dungeons or cave systems. Some with housing spots and dock space. Then add the ability to build docks if you have a house within a several tiles of the location.

Then add Whales, and whaling using the canon with a harpoon ammunition. And allow us to make Oil for lanterns and to be used for tanning leathers, making magical oils, etc.
Then add special oils with magical nature to allow us to use lanterns with magical lights to reveal invisible things, like chests and writing on walls for discovering secret things.
Then add whalebone carving, and a variety of books that you have to find to learn to carve specific things, some quite rare that also require specific rare bone pieces.

 

[G.v.P]

I hope they'll put Tokuno's seas to good use. If so, yes, there will be enough ocean

Brit/Old Lands ocean is by the far the largest, isn't it? I don't think Tokuno's oceans are that large...plus, keep in mind this booster is going to be focused south of Moonglow if I remember right, so most of the early traffic will be around there.

They mentioned something like one boat at a time per character.

If EA is smart, they will have to change that to per account. The ability for people to leave 7 boats per account unattended is going to be hell on high waters. Maybe 1 per account is too strict, but I don't know...if you can just place with one char and control them all with another, haha, depends on loopholes I guess.

 

[Mapper]

Brit/Old Lands ocean is by the far the largest, isn't it? I don't think Tokuno's oceans are that large...plus, keep in mind this booster is going to be focused south of Moonglow if I remember right, so most of the early traffic will be around there.



If EA is smart, they will have to change that to per account. The ability for people to leave 7 boats per account unattended is going to be hell on high waters. Maybe 1 per account is too strict, but I don't know...if you can just place with one char and control them all with another, haha, depends on loopholes I guess.

You could have a requirement of 80 fishing to place one of the new boats, So technically someone could place 7 boats on one account, But only if they have 80 fishing on each character.

 

[sablestorm]

You could have a requirement of 80 fishing to place one of the new boats, So technically someone could place 7 boats on one account, But only if they have 80 fishing on each character.

You'd severely limit the usefulness of this booster if you do that. I don't have a fisher on my main account, but I intend to upgrade so I can go hunt pirates with my warriors, mages, and other characters. If they made that a requirement for using the new boat system, then they'd lose out on my money.

I'm not sure that people will be leaving their boats sitting around all that much. Why? Because suppose a water elemental comes along and damages it to the point of being immobile. They'd have to spend money to repair everything before they could use it again. That would just be a pain and a waste of money and resources. Of course, I am assuming that monsters will attack empty boats but I think it would be a good means of keeping the waters uncluttered.

 

[Tazar]

You could have a requirement of 80 fishing to place one of the new boats, So technically someone could place 7 boats on one account, But only if they have 80 fishing on each character.

I like the general thought - but it is too abuse-able.

*Places Boat*
*Heads to house and soul-stones skill for next character to place*
*Repeat 7 times*

 

[Cailleach]

I wish they'd add a server at each edge of the map (2 total) and vastly increase the size of the seas.

Then add numerous small Islands for exploration, some with ruins, some with small dungeons or cave systems. Some with housing spots and dock space. Then add the ability to build docks if you have a house within a several tiles of the location.

Then add Whales, and whaling using the canon with a harpoon ammunition. And allow us to make Oil for lanterns and to be used for tanning leathers, making magical oils, etc.
Then add special oils with magical nature to allow us to use lanterns with magical lights to reveal invisible things, like chests and writing on walls for discovering secret things.
Then add whalebone carving, and a variety of books that you have to find to learn to carve specific things, some quite rare that also require specific rare bone pieces.

Trebr, I'm loving the imagination. Especially the build the docks. Got a house outside Yew would be absolutely perfect for that. Of course, it'd mean I'd have to remodel. Again. But hey, I guess I'd survive

 

[Silverbird]

Boats are getting damaged could be the key to not leave them unattended at the seas. With npc-(pirate-)ships sailing around it sounds possible/logical that unoccupied ships are to be entered and sunken.

 

[BajaElladan]

And what am I then supposed to do with my existing 60+ boats used as temp storage when emptying houses during moving???

This Booster needs to allow for converting existing boats to the new ones for a reduced cost so I could at least sell the excess ones once EA revokes my current Shipping license.

Aaaar, I mean grrrrr!

 

[JC the Builder]

This is how I understood it as well. 1 ship deployed at a time + a skiff (row boat). You may own as many as you like (in deed form), but only one active at a time, per character.

They also mentioned doing something with all the current boats that are on the sea now. Some sort of pack up or dry dock so you don't lose anything in your hold, but enforcing the 1 ship per character when it goes live.

What is going to happen to the people who own many boats for storage? I have seen the flotillas and sometimes there can be up to 2 dozen ships.

This is going to cause other issues as well. When something is dead on my deck, I will often lock my ship and leave it. I carry multiple boats so I can quickly place another if needed. Under the 1 boat rule I won't be able to do this. It will especially be problematic in Felucca Lost Lands.

 

[Trebr Drab]

What is going to happen to the people who own many boats for storage? I have seen the flotillas and sometimes there can be up to 2 dozen ships.

And yet another uniquely UO player to player aspect will be born. Warehouse rental!

 

[Gheed]

They mentioned something like one boat at a time per character.

I could place 38 boats.

I was thinking more like a boat being an extension of your house. Boat placement would subtract a large number of lock downs. You would get to place one boat per account with no penalty. But any boats placed after the first would require you own a house and it would subtract a large number of lock downs from your home. Like 1000 per. If you didn't have the storage available, you couldn't place another. Or simply limit them to one per account.

 

[Stupid Miner]

Brit/Old Lands ocean is by the far the largest, isn't it? I don't think Tokuno's oceans are that large...

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[Pinco]

maybe they have to make a system that put boat invisible while the owner is offline

 

[G.v.P]

I'm not sure that people will be leaving their boats sitting around all that much. Why? Because suppose a water elemental comes along and damages it to the point of being immobile

Currently I think only way to have boat damaged is if an NPC pirate ship comes out of nowhere and shoots cannons at ya. But this is a "pre-Alpha" design.

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Hey...you're not Mapper! P yes yes I know there IS ocean but... well, there has to be a comparison chart somewhere that shows ocean to land distribution of all the continent/facets, no? ;P

http://uo.stratics.com/content/atlas/zoommap/main.php?region=6

Tokuno is I guess 1:2?
http://uo.stratics.com/content/atlas/zoommap/map/fulltokuno.jpg

Brit is 1:8
http://uo.stratics.com/content/atlas/zoommap/map/fulltmap.jpg