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What happened to the faction changes???

JC the Builder

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Over four months ago there was a huge amount of developer interest in updating factions. The player base responded enthusiastically to these developments, providing hundreds upon hundreds of feedback posts within days.

After the initial flurry of activity, there has been absolutely nothing else in the last 3 months. It hasn't even been touched on in the last four producer letters.

To say this is a let down is an understatement. This is a long running joke now. We are always being teased with faction or big PVP updates. One time it was stated that a faction overhaul was "half done", the addition of community collection points, a long running story arc revolving around the Shadowlords, etc. Anyone remember "Unified PVP"? Developers are always saying that PVP will get an update after X expansion is released. But it always turns out to be a couple fixes and then on to something else.

I think we deserve an update on what is happening with factions and whether it has been completely dropped from the development.
 
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Babble

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Soon?
:p

Be patient. It is UO where development cycles are years if not decades.
 

Viper09

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I think the faction forums are where you should take a peak. Unlike other changes, faction changes are using the input of the actual faction players in an attempt to have the changes be a positive one for those involved. At least that was their intention. And seeing as how it isn't being rushed I might take that as a good sign.
 
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chuckoatl

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I hear ya Link. I was rather excited about the changes. Now I'm just dragged down. Any word right now would be great.
 
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northwoodschopper

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i'm kinda thinking factions are going to be replaced with order chaos possibly. not that it would be a bad thing necessarily, but hopefully whatever happens will be finished up for once.

maybe the devs all need adderall so they can stay on track.
 

Slickjack

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When they introduced the faction arties and did the last round of "tweaking", our guild on Catskills enlisted 40% or so of our active members in a new "faction wing". We were all fired up and probably half of our group was new to factions and had never experienced any PVP outside of spawns and the Gate.

It was an absolute blast! Stealing sigs, guarding them, FORCING other new faction guilds to operate without Faction Horses, new strategies that we HAD to develop and the necessity of team work that was required that we really hadn't seen before.

Since then, factions have lost their luster. We still do some sig running, we still defend the base etc., but it's basically turned back into EXACTLY what it was before:

spawns and the GATE.

I'd love to see something that would inspire team play and make it worthwhile for people to participate. The timers need to be looked at again for sure. I'd MUCH rather guard and have to hold the sigs for 24 hours and get a REAL reward for accomplishing this, then the way it is now.
 

Omnius

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Factions need to have greater roles and impacts on the environment of the shard. advanced control of the cities, more interactive guards(faction guards ought to replace the city guards). Guards ought to be willing to attack anyone or not nobody with various customizable functions in between.
 

Cear Dallben Dragon

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if a fraction of those proposed changes go live i'm joining factions.
Ive been itching to join the Guardian for ages.
But yeah, make factions make sense asap.
 
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slaveone

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Over four months ago there was a huge amount of developer interest in updating factions. The player base responded enthusiastically to these developments, providing hundreds upon hundreds of feedback posts within days.

After the initial flurry of activity, there has been absolutely nothing else in the last 3 months. It hasn't even been touched on in the last four producer letters.

To say this is a let down is an understatement. This is a long running joke now. We are always being teased with faction or big PVP updates. One time it was stated that a faction overhaul was "half done", the addition of community collection points, a long running story arc revolving around the Shadowlords, etc. Anyone remember "Unified PVP"? Developers are always saying that PVP will get an update after X expansion is released. But it always turns out to be a couple fixes and then on to something else.

I think we deserve an update on what is happening with factions and whether it has been completely dropped from the development.
Whats the point in making changes for a group of players who are never satisfied, always complain, and act like 14 year old kids when in game when they are probably 30+? I know if i was a dev and read most of the garbage posted on these boards i'd throw ya a middle finger and go work on new plants to grow....
 
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Babble

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They tried that with Sims Online but that did not work too well.
:p
 

JC the Builder

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Whats the point in making changes for a group of players who are never satisfied, always complain, and act like 14 year old kids when in game when they are probably 30+? I know if i was a dev and read most of the garbage posted on these boards i'd throw ya a middle finger and go work on new plants to grow....
There was a lot of feedback I think on what the developers presented to us. While most of it was negative, it is better to know what players think than to implement it and wonder why people are not participating in factions.
 
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