Bank sitting at Luna is fatal - how frustrating

[hizack]

The green deamon probably killed my char while i was afk for about half hour.

When i'm back i lost these
1. all my potions in backpack
2. all my orange petals in backpack, 10 of them just purchased yesterday
3. three martys just collected over the weekends

Not to mention insurance gold which goes into the sink.

Just wanted to share to all and don't bank sit at Luna and think you are safe.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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Why are you leaving your character unattended for HALF AN HOUR?

Log out.

Anything that happens while you are AFK is completely, 100% AT YOUR OWN RISK regardless of where the character may be.

You risked it, you got burned.

 

[jack flash uk]

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Why are you leaving your character unattended for HALF AN HOUR?

Log out.

Anything that happens while you are AFK is completely, 100% AT YOUR OWN RISK regardless of where the character may be.

You risked it, you got burned.

this

 

[hizack]

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Why are you leaving your character unattended for HALF AN HOUR?

Log out.

Anything that happens while you are AFK is completely, 100% AT YOUR OWN RISK regardless of where the character may be.

You risked it, you got burned.

Yes indeed you are right, lesson learned, and wanted to post here so more people need to be aware of this. Don't bank sit unattended and log out, even in Luna.

 

[canary]

You know, for about two years I was attacked either by demons or undead spirits everytime I recalled to my little cyber home, ie Magincia.

I can't say I feel much pity for those whose bank sitting has been temporarily sidelined (while AFK, no less!) in Luna.

 

[Taylor]

THEN DON'T BANK SIT. What benefit does it give you?

 

[popps]

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Why are you leaving your character unattended for HALF AN HOUR?

Log out.

If an account is not engaged into any activity for, say, over 5 minutes, regardless of where the character is at, the system should automatically log out the account.

No exceptions.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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Unless something has changed, being in a busy location (like Luna bank) that has people popping on screen fairly constantly to trigger "show incoming names" should still keep a character logged in in the 2d client.

This doesn't seem to be the case in the EC where you actually have to move something (i.e. move an item, your character or use a skill) to remain logged in.

 

[hizack]

To anyone who wondered why i let my char to bank sit unattended for half hour.. it's probably a very casual reason, on a weekend you feel in the mood to play UO, log in, kill some monsters then back to the bank, and find out it's time to get something to eat, maybe the news caught your attentions, or a friend called etc etc, just simple things that can happen on any day when i can play UO.

And no, i'll not just leave my seat if i'm still in the dungeons. At least recall out or run to somewhere i can recall out to a safe place. Note to self: Luna is not a safe place anymore.

The good thing is, i've been in this game for 8 years now, and it still got something to surprise me.

 

[hizack]

THEN DON'T BANK SIT. What benefit does it give you?

This is an Excellent question my friend. The answer is not being killed afk.

 

[GarthGrey]

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Unless something has changed, being in a busy location (like Luna bank) that has people popping on screen fairly constantly to trigger "show incoming names" should still keep a character logged in in the 2d client.

This doesn't seem to be the case in the EC where you actually have to move something (i.e. move an item, your character or use a skill) to remain logged in.

This is absolutely NOT the case with the 2d client. I've lost count of the number of times I've been disconnected in Luna for inactivity with Incoming names on. This is a defense by people that are burning counts or macroing, and always has been.

 

[Widow Maker]

Woohooooooooo. We had a blast with the Luna demons last night. I imagine quite a few Luna folks came back to monochrome across the shards. I know the demons fed well on Sonoma last night.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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It's possible that they changed this then because that indeed used to be the case... but then it's been YEARS since I used the 2d client for any real length of time (beyond stocking a vendor post-3d client).

 

[sablestorm]

This is absolutely NOT the case with the 2d client. I've lost count of the number of times I've been disconnected in Luna for inactivity with Incoming names on. This is a defense by people that are burning counts or macroing, and always has been.

Then you must have some setting different from the rest of us. Don't make accusations when you don't know what you are talking about. I've had characters that are not macroing or burning counts who I forget to logout, usually because I switch to my browser to check on something, forget I'm logged in, and wander off to the kitchen to get a bite to eat. I'll come back and find the character is still logged in. Why? Because there have been players running through my screen. Once again, no macroing or nefarious programs running or anything.

 

[Taylor]

THEN DON'T BANK SIT. What benefit does it give you?

This is an Excellent question my friend. The answer is not being killed afk.

The benefit of bank sitting is "not being killed"? There is an inn immediately above the Luna bank. Invest the 30 seconds it takes to walk upstairs, then log out. This will prevent you from being killed.

 

[Pinco]

it's time to change the bank sitting place... only haven will remain safe for now
or you can also try felucca cities, probably are more safe

 

[GarthGrey]

Then you must have some setting different from the rest of us. Don't make accusations when you don't know what you are talking about. I've had characters that are not macroing or burning counts who I forget to logout, usually because I switch to my browser to check on something, forget I'm logged in, and wander off to the kitchen to get a bite to eat. I'll come back and find the character is still logged in. Why? Because there have been players running through my screen. Once again, no macroing or nefarious programs running or anything.

Ok then explain why I"VE been standing there under the exact same circumstances, only to have been disconnected. And how dare you say to me or anyone else "don't make accusations when you don't know what you are talking about". You've offered no evidence whatsoever that YOUR OPINION is fact...take your own advice.

This argument of "I wasn't macroing, Incoming names keeps you connected" has been a defense mechanism that's so old, everyone quotes it as fact. I've tested it numerous times with nothing whatsoever running except Show names of approaching players IN THE CLIENT, not with UOA. And I've lost connection. PERIOD

 

[chuckoatl]

Ok then explain why I"VE been standing there under the exact same circumstances, only to have been disconnected. And how dare you say to me or anyone else "don't make accusations when you don't know what you are talking about". You've offered no evidence whatsoever that YOUR OPINION is fact...take your own advice.

This argument of "I wasn't macroing, Incoming names keeps you connected" has been a defense mechanism that's so old, everyone quotes it as fact. I've tested it numerous times with nothing whatsoever running except Show names of approaching players IN THE CLIENT, not with UOA. And I've lost connection. PERIOD

well you're wrong. Seems amazing that I can go AFK right by the gate in luna alive or dead and never lose connection as long as someone walks by my screen every 7 minutes. AND STOP TYPING IN CAPS YOU CANT INTIMIDATE PEOPLE WHEN YOU TYPE....... Dork

 

[GarthGrey]

Typical reply from the pvp/hacker crowd. Thanks for the personal attack too, RoC breaker....

 

[Hobo Sapien]

Another option is to hide. .............works for me. In fact doin it right now. If you don't have hidin then get it on your bank sitter.

 

[Picus of Napa]

Typical reply from the pvp/hacker crowd. Thanks for the personal attack too, RoC breaker....

1700+ posts doesn't help when you don't know what you're talking about. I go afk all the freaking time at the bank, luna gate or yew gate. At the bank I will wake up 20 mins before server down and log my char out. I then have a coffee, breakfast and shower. Log back in and go to work sitting at the bank all day whilst never running some magical program.

 

[Viper09]

If an account is not engaged into any activity for, say, over 5 minutes, regardless of where the character is at, the system should automatically log out the account.

No exceptions.

Give it a rest...seriously. Send your request to a dev and leave it at that.

 

[Trevelyan]

I wonder if there are people at Luna who have only ever played in Luna.

Maybe this will let them know there is a bigger UO world out there

 

[Viper09]

I wonder if there are people at Luna who have only ever played in Luna.

Maybe this will let them know there is a bigger UO world out there

Lol!

 

[sablestorm]

Ok then explain why I"VE been standing there under the exact same circumstances, only to have been disconnected. And how dare you say to me or anyone else "don't make accusations when you don't know what you are talking about". You've offered no evidence whatsoever that YOUR OPINION is fact...take your own advice.

This argument of "I wasn't macroing, Incoming names keeps you connected" has been a defense mechanism that's so old, everyone quotes it as fact. I've tested it numerous times with nothing whatsoever running except Show names of approaching players IN THE CLIENT, not with UOA. And I've lost connection. PERIOD

I'm not the one who made the first accusation, did I? I never said you didn't get disconnected. You're the one who made the leap that said those of us who don't get disconnected sitting in Luna are macroing.

While we're at it Garth, why not open up another thread with a poll. Ask all the players whether they get logged out or not. You can even put options like:

1. Remain logged in while scripting
2. Remain logged in while macroing
3. Remain logged in doing nothing
4. Remain logged in while Garth Grey thinks you're up to something nefarious despite the fact you are sitting there just innocently afk
5. Get logged out

See what the response is.

 

[Green Mouser]

Silly Whopper thats a Big Mac Box.....My post seems as sensible as the poster's

 

[Petra Fyde]

I'm sorry, I'm afraid you are mistaken. It is possible to stay logged in if there is sufficient activity around you. Only yesterday I was sorting some items in my shop near Moonglow moongate, someone came to the door, the dog was barking so I just got up and ran down the stairs, leaving my character sitting idle in the house. It took a while to get the problem sorted and I expected to come back to find myself logged out. Instead my character was still where I'd left her, but a mongbat was going mental at the door trying to reach her. The attacking mongbat had kept me logged in.

 

[Aurelius]

IThe attacking mongbat had kept me logged in.

I suspect that might be the key though - something on the server would constantly be referring back to your character, and if the mongbat was attacking then the usual 'can't log out until the combat flag is clear' would apply. Not sure if something was changed about 'passive' things like the names of folks just going past keeping you logged in or not though, and with all the other bugs in UO I don't think I'll even try work out what might be happening, I'll either hit the 'hide' macro or log out at home

 

[Bill Gates OSD]

THEN DON'T BANK SIT. What benefit does it give you?

It helps him/them to burn off murder counts and they look cool. Supposedly. rolleyes:

Regarding the loss while AFK: and

 

[Mistura]

To anyone who wondered why i let my char to bank sit unattended for half hour.. it's probably a very casual reason, on a weekend you feel in the mood to play UO, log in, kill some monsters then back to the bank, and find out it's time to get something to eat, maybe the news caught your attentions, or a friend called etc etc, just simple things that can happen on any day when i can play UO.

And no, i'll not just leave my seat if i'm still in the dungeons. At least recall out or run to somewhere i can recall out to a safe place. Note to self: Luna is not a safe place anymore.

The good thing is, i've been in this game for 8 years now, and it still got something to surprise me.

I do all of that above as you have mentioned, its good to have a char logged in at the bank even when not playing, you can walk past your comp and catch a glimpse of whats happening in the other realm lol...

 

[GarthGrey]

I'm sorry, I'm afraid you are mistaken. It is possible to stay logged in if there is sufficient activity around you. Only yesterday I was sorting some items in my shop near Moonglow moongate, someone came to the door, the dog was barking so I just got up and ran down the stairs, leaving my character sitting idle in the house. It took a while to get the problem sorted and I expected to come back to find myself logged out. Instead my character was still where I'd left her, but a mongbat was going mental at the door trying to reach her. The attacking mongbat had kept me logged in.

Petra, I'm not saying a person CANT remain logged in without doing something ingame. I've also successfully stayed logged on myself, in Luna. But more times than not, I've lost connection, with plenty of people coming and going. Maybe I'm just unlucky..I use UOA, so I'll turn off Incoming names in the client and just use UOAs option so I don't see a mongbat a mongbat.

 

[Jandruz]

I wonder if there are people at Luna who have only ever played in Luna.

Maybe this will let them know there is a bigger UO world out there

 

[Dermott of LS]

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I'll turn off Incoming names in the client and just use UOAs option

That right there is probably the difference.

 

[Fink]

Is it really so bad if someone goes AFK for a break? I don't know why other people get infuriated over it.

How sad it would be if real life didn't get in the way of gaming.

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As for the OP, you're at the bank.. put your valuables in it.

 

[Lady Storm]

Was once told by a GM that the players in luna were exempt from the log out effect of other areas, and it was not illegal to be afk there. (I didnt agree with what he said as that was not what I was taught) Now if the rules as I was told by this gm have changed please inform me. As for in ones own home, Petra is correct you will auto logout if your char doesnt move after a measured time.

Now as for the bank sitter.... That will teach you to walk off, read a book, do homework, eat, watch tv, talk on phone, etc.... I hope you died like a dog. I for one have no pity for you loosing a thing. You shouldnt be at the bank afk. Period. In my opinion if your at the bank and you get wacked cause your afk you deserved it.

Yes most "BLUE" pks of pvp fame sit in Luna bank to work off the life of their counts, I dont support this way of letting them do it. If you want to work off your counts go play ...
Do something right for a bloody change, before luna you couldnt do this and I find it very unfair.

 

[Mapper]

Was once told by a GM that the players in luna were exempt from the log out effect of other areas, and it was not illegal to be afk there. (I didnt agree with what he said as that was not what I was taught) Now if the rules as I was told by this gm have changed please inform me. As for in ones own home, Petra is correct you will auto logout if your char doesnt move after a measured time.

The reason why you will log out automaticly in your home is because there is no player activity, Whereas sitting at Luna there is. The GM was wrong there is no 'effect', It's just the fact Luna or any other busy public place is busy and keeps your client active (2d only).

 

[Lady Storm]

I figured as much. Thank you Mapper.

 

[Big Wang]

woohoo..i LOVE banksitting in Luna..sometimes, other times i get sick of it. But im not afk for any length of time, usually long enough to check dinner maybe or bathroom run. I'm usually sitting in Luna chatting with guildies or friends in guild/private chat/messenger, or doing something else on another screen but I also check UO screen every so often..whether im talking on phone, watching tv or anything..all i gotta do is look at screen and make sure my chars fine and ive not been logged out. If i leave the house or plan on being afk for any length of time, yeah i do log, no way id leave my char sitting on a game all day without checking in on it periodically. and FTR ive never been disconnected while afk in Luna unless it was a net problem on my end. And im not a macro'er or unattending macroing or whatever you want to call it.


And for those that will ask why do i sit on a game if im not playing it? I can for one, thanks to Luna having high traffic and npc constantly walking around and it makes it easier for when i want to play and go hunting, just flip to the screen and zooooom..no log in required..k that might be a bit tooo lazy there but oh well, works for me

 

[sablestorm]

Petra, I'm not saying a person CANT remain logged in without doing something ingame. I've also successfully stayed logged on myself, in Luna. But more times than not, I've lost connection, with plenty of people coming and going. Maybe I'm just unlucky..I use UOA, so I'll turn off Incoming names in the client and just use UOAs option so I don't see a mongbat a mongbat.

That "absolutely not the case" phrase of yours seems to indicate you believed a person CANT remain logged in without doing something ingame.

 

[Sergul'zan_SP]

THEN DON'T BANK SIT. What benefit does it give you?

It makes you better at PvP.

 

[GarthGrey]

That "absolutely not the case" phrase of yours seems to indicate you believed a person CANT remain logged in without doing something ingame.

Go back and reread it, I was quoting Dermott and his

Unless something has changed, being in a busy location (like Luna bank) that has people popping on screen fairly constantly to trigger "show incoming names" should still keep a character logged in in the 2d client.

But feel free to continue rolling around on the floor laughing.

 

[Dermott of LS]

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And it turns out that I was (still) right. The reason why it doesn't work for you is that you have it turned off in the actual client.

 

[sablestorm]

Go back and reread it, I was quoting Dermott and his

But feel free to continue rolling around on the floor laughing.

I will. You're wrong, plain and simple. Your sweeping statements are incorrect. If you had said, "I get disconnected all the time at Luna," it would be a different story, but no. You made it out to be some conspiracy by cheaters to make up a story. Reality is, a vast majority of players discover they don't get disconnected in Luna. That's the bottom line.

You made mention in another thread that it was Poppsed. This one was Garth Greyed.

 

[Taylor]

THEN DON'T BANK SIT. What benefit does it give you?

It makes you better at PvP.

lmao. I understand now.

 

[Theo_GL]

The green deamon probably killed my char while i was afk for about half hour.

When i'm back i lost these
1. all my potions in backpack
2. all my orange petals in backpack, 10 of them just purchased yesterday
3. three martys just collected over the weekends

Not to mention insurance gold which goes into the sink.

Just wanted to share to all and don't bank sit at Luna and think you are safe.

Good. Log out in safe location next time.

 

[Arradin]

This is what trammel did to the game.

A few selected people will understand the Irony in that statement.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

as far as i know u still can have a runebook opened and it will keep u logged in...anyone else know if that still works like that?

 

[Saris]

wtf, yes if you bank sit luna or brit you cold die, unless your paying attention then you could still die. the OP is just giving fair warining no need to flame.



However you do not log out when at a busy spot, like Luna. You dont need to be scripting, as a matter of fact anybody that dont know this cant have played UO very long. You probably should log out, but thats another story, why do you think the train with golems in LUNA, a prepatch golem is worth alot and if your not at luna you may autolog and loose it.

 

[Kiminality]

There's a lot of hate against banksitters going on here.

Considering all the complaining that went on when the spawns in the abyss broke... This is sort of the same thing in reverse.
Luna is (was) a peaceful area where people could idle, trade, or whatever, which got turned into a high-end PvM area.
The Cavern of the Discarded was a popular spawn, which got turned practically worthless by not spawning the desirable monsters.
On both sides of the coin, it's perceived function of the area being changed.

If I'm just sitting there in a traditionally safe area, watching general chat and taking in the community (which exists on Europa, at least), and some putrefier thing spawns, chances are I'm dead.
But from the responses I'm reading here, I'd have deserved it for banksitting?
Load of crap if you ask me.

 

[Xalan Dementia]

Kimi i think the hatred is for the murder count burning banksitters, and the few scripting bank sitters that can occur. It could also be old hatred for the original banksitters, the cocky tamers who would sit upon thier nightmares with thier G staffs and Invuln armor at brit bank, the ones who just want to show off thier pixels. Those types of banksitters always annoyed me back in the day