Does Ultima Online still have lots of players?

[Babble]

Me me me
I think I got 4
One I opened uhm 2000 for my first character. Though have not posted with that one for a few years now .

Second one was for my roleplay character and posted rp stories.
Third one I think was also for a rp character (or was that only at the f4g boards now UOforums.com) *shameless plug*

Fourth I used when I forgot the password for this one

Uhm *counts fingers* Hey I have 5 accounts.

Might look up all the passwords and spam stratics a bit with arguments and counter arguments by myself!

And sa I would never derail a productive threat I say UO has seemingly enough players for EA to keep it open for now.
Probably to train the gms for theur 2 Million MMO then - so they can tell in Jedi "Sorry I can nay help thee - Eat my lighsword noob'

 

[Evlar]

Oh trust me bro i'm not surprised at all. Because the same kiddy 14 year old mentality people who want the classic shard to get their grief fest on use the same kiddy 14 year old grief tactics here on stratics to try to ram their opinions down everyone elses throat. The thing is we don't have to accept this fabrication of the truth from classic shard whiners with 15-20 stratics accounts with 1-10 posts each at face value and we WON'T! I'm just calling BS when i see it.

PS- How many stratics accounts do you have?

No doubting there's going to be people that feel the need to have alias accounts. I'm not sure if it's against the RoC here on Stratics, but most forums will ban not only the alias, but the "main" account if they can get an IP match. I'm sure the moderators will clear that issue up for you if you ask them politely.

So to answer your "PS" - no I don't use aliases and I've never felt the compulsion or desire to do so.

You do realise however, that posting the sort of accusations and drivel you posted, you're actually no better than those you're trying to point the finger at. Ever stop to think about that?

Since the topic has been deemed as open for discussion on these forums, then it's just that. Open for discussion. People have different views. Different stroke for different folks. If you consider such discussion "try[ing] to ram their opinions down everyone else's throat.", then you might want to take your narrow minded blinkers off and consider that other people might think differently to yourself. Granted, those opinions may be in the minority on this particular forum, but should a minority not have a voice too? Or do you prefer we should all be burned on crosses, or something like that... rolleyes:

 

[dum3886]

Why is it so hard to answer his question lol?

How is Uo doing?
Depends how you wish to play... pvp... not as active as before
pvm.. better than when u quit bcz of new monsters coming out bringing new pixel candy for ppl. and people are again startin to work together to kill the higher end monsters.

Population?
Dying... people may say.. ive seen more ppl recently than ever b4... yeah sure there is a small surge after each new version of UO comes out.. then it dies even worse than b4. Population is far < 250,000 of the times when u quit. Some shards r ghost towns now its quite sad

 

[HD2300]

The thing is we don't have to accept this fabrication of the truth from classic shard whiners with 15-20 stratics accounts with 1-10 posts each at face value and we WON'T! I'm just calling BS when i see it.

It is so obvious. Hardly any posts when there were all those threads about anti-cheating measures a couple of weeks ago, and now in the last day or so just before Cal is going to post something, its the same handful spamming all over the place. It is called astroturfing, and I am sure that it is obvious to smart people like Cal.

The whole Classic shard campaign is a crock, because one of the top 3 spammers made their living off UO, and was the first to post in Cal's anti cheating thread 'if you ban all the cheaters UO will die' and has posted this more than once.

 

[Derium of ls]

Gretchen, you have yet to use the term Astroturfing correctly...

 

[HD2300]

^^ I havent named anyone specifically.

I just recall that the person that was the first to post in Cal's anti cheating measures thread something like 'if you ban all cheaters, uo will die'.

That person then posted, 'it was a joke'.

But the excuse that it was a joke is a total crock, because that person prior to Cal's thread, posted in another thread something similar to 'if you ban all cheaters, uo will die'.

end of story.

 

[Derium of ls]

You named me in it, and that's why your posts were deleted with my name, it was slander. I supplied the other comments to it. The stratics staff understood that.

However, if I sit here and tell you that it was a joke, and you're telling me that you know what I mean better than myself... you need some serious help.

 

[HD2300]

"Also, it's really sad UO is in this state. If they ban all the cheaters, the game will fold because most people cheat it seems." 3/24/10 quoted by the person who was the first to post in Cal's recent anti cheating measures thread that 'if they ban all cheaters, UO will die'.

The truth is the truth, and what happens is up to the mods.

Note there is a different moderation standard, and imo totally lame, in the Classic thread than in all other threads in Stratics. e.g. if you quote "cry" and a Classic fanboi reports the post in the Classic thread, that post will get deleted.

 

[Derium of ls]

"The whole Classic shard campaign is a crock, because one of the top 3 spammers made their living off UO, and was the first to post in Cal's anti cheating thread 'if you ban all the cheaters UO will die' and has posted this more than once."


You said I was first, then you just said that person was first... Because I know they posted, and i made the post and added a rolleyes: after it right?

If I quote something you say, and then roll my eyes, would you be stupid enough to think I just made a stand-alone statement that I felt was true?


"The truth is the truth, and what happens is up to the mods. "


It's up to you, I'm telling you to stop misquoting me... for months at a time.

 

[HD2300]

^^ it is up to the UO Stratics mods. They can choose to side with the markeey dragoon wannabee who made a living off uo and has posted more than once 'if they ban all the cheaters uo will die' or not.

 

[Derium of ls]

^^ it is up to the UO Stratics mods. They can choose to side with the markeey dragoon wannabee who made a living off uo and has posted more than once 'if they ban all the cheaters uo will die' or not.

but I'll let it slide this thread because I'm here part of it. but I made it public, and until you grow up and contact me, you better not mention me, or any post I ever made on here. You've been warned, and thanks

 

[Zodia]

Sounds to me, from reading the OP, that he would come back in a second to try out an official classic shard. So would thousands and thousands of past players. The great return to UO... all EA/Mythic has to do is pull the lever and devote the time to a pre-AOS shard. And best of all we could finally shut up the anti-Classic Shard trolls in this thread with a giant "told ya so".

 

[HD2300]

^^

UO doesnt need people whose 'job' was making a living off it and posting "if you ban all cheaterz, uo will die" in the producers thread, and also elsewhere.

 

[Derium of ls]

I'll give you one more post after this one in this thread. So get it out of your system now

 

[Harlequin]

Looking at the posts in this thread alone, yup, there're still a lot of UO players.



Also, I do look at the number of cheats and gold/item selling/RMT sites as an indicator of how many people still play this game.

If no one plays this game, there'll be no cheats/RMT etc.

@OP, in case you missed it, there are also regular global events every month or 2. That's on top of the shard events hosted by EMs.

In fact a new global event just went live today.

Join the evil followers of Bane! Or help the treacherous ophidians reptiles! Claim your spoils of war! Conquer mighty dragons of war to serve as your mount!

 

[Petra Fyde]

FYI:
The Stratics mods don't 'side' with anyone. They apply the RoC.
However, we're not super-human and we do, believe it or not, have lives outside of these boards. That means we may not actually spot every single breach of the rules, or even agree with someone's interpretation of them. Especially those who think the rule is 'I can insult and attack anyone I want, but they can't attack me'. There are a lot of those on these boards.

Also, having an alternate user account is not a breach of the rules. Several do to distinguish their roleplay personna from their more general playing. However we do have a rule against misusing an alt:

Q. You may not use an alternative user account to promote or support your main user account in a way that implies you are more than one person or to evade disciplinary actions.

Mentioning freeshards is not against the rules, although we'd rather you didn't. Naming them is.

 

[Evlar]

Thank you Petra for clearing that up

I'm sure that if you see incorrect usage of an alias account, assuming the IP matches, then you do take the appropriate action.

I think the person posting the "alias" accusations fails to understand how simple it is for moderators to pick up obvious alias problems with the forum software you have available. Likewise, I'm not sure that they are aware that when the moderators view the forums, they can also see the IP address of all posters in their profile.

 

[phantus]

Thank you Petra for clearing that up

I'm sure that if you see incorrect usage of an alias account, assuming the IP matches, then you do take the appropriate action.

I think the person posting the "alias" accusations fails to understand how simple it is for moderators to pick up obvious alias problems with the forum software you have available. Likewise, I'm not sure that they are aware that when the moderators view the forums, they can also see the IP address of all posters in their profile.

While this may be the case unplugging your modem to get a new IP number is hardly a secret. I've seen enough polls that all of a sudden have 20 extra votes enough to see it's not a secret around here.

 

[Ransom_of_BiC]

I don't understand why people who hate this game continue to post here. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

OP: I left the game for 5 years and recently came back about a month ago. Regardless what all the crying, whining and complaining boys and girls will tell you, I will tell you from *my* personal experience, I'm glad I came back.

Regardless of the changes AoS brought us, there are still some things in UO that no other game makes available to it's players.

Create the trial account. Walk around some of your old haunts a little. I guarantee you that you'll be smiling in no time.

 

[HD2300]

While this may be the case unplugging your modem to get a new IP number is hardly a secret. I've seen enough polls that all of a sudden have 20 extra votes enough to see it's not a secret around here.

Or use prozzie serters, which I've deliberately misspelled.

 

[Extra Value Meal]

Oh trust me bro i'm not surprised at all. Because the same kiddy 14 year old mentality people who want the classic shard to get their grief fest on use the same kiddy 14 year old grief tactics here on stratics to try to ram their opinions down everyone elses throat. The thing is we don't have to accept this fabrication of the truth from classic shard whiners with 15-20 stratics accounts with 1-10 posts each at face value and we WON'T! I'm just calling BS when i see it.

PS- How many stratics accounts do you have?

Yea, your views aren't totally misguided. rolleyes:

 

[Extra Value Meal]

People aren't demanding a classic shard for the sole purpose of griefing other players. Believing this is just utter nonsense. People want a classic shard because they want to experience what made UO special.

1. A living, breathing world.
2. Player cooperation and interaction
3. The thrill of the hunt
4. The risk of heading out with choice weapons and armor
5. The fear of the unknown
6. The adrenaline rush of meeting an imposing monster or foe in the field

These are all things a classic shard could bring. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but UO's population certainly is not what it used to be. You can blame it on the graphics engine or EA's lack of support on the game prior to SA, but I feel UO lost something special when AOS came out.

What happened to heading up to the Britain smithy and chatting with people while your armor gets repaired? Gone. Why? Infinite durability on items and insurance.

What happened to the need to group and take on powerful creatures or the need to cooperate? Not really necessary. Thanks to the items and artifacts, as well as the 0% risk of losing them save for a bug or no money in the bank to pay insurance, players are veritable gods and can solo close to 95% of the content this game has to offer. In what game, especially an MMO, should a character be able to solo an end-boss?

Where's the adrenaline rush of a challenge or the fear of the unknown? When players can down Dragons, Ancient Wyrms, or Daemons in a matter of seconds, how does one feel apprehension when first seeing a truly powerful foe? Or the long sigh when you won the day and survived, perhaps only by a small margin? Where is the danger?

What is so wrong if EA implements a Classic shard? Half of you have already swore up and down that you have no interest in playing it, so why do you care if EA spends development time to please a potentially large portion of the playerbase? How does this affect you? You guys managed to stick through years of no new content because EA was shifting staff about the country, so why can't you stick it through here? Why is it so hard to let the other guy have some time in the limelight? Lord knows he's earned it.

The demand for a classic shard, whether you believe it or not, is out there. It really is. You think it's bad here with the amount of pro-classic shards floating about? Head over to sites such as MMORPG.com, Somethingawful.com (MMO category), or Gamespot. Places where whenever UO is uttered, former players come out of the woodwork and reflect on how such a tremendous experience UO was for them back in the day, and how they mourn what it has become. Sure, it's anecdotal evidence, and tough to prove unless you see it with your own eyes, so go ahead and look it up for yourself.

But please, don't be that guy. Don't stymie a change simply because you don't agree with it. This game needs something. Can you honestly say that UO is doing well? Sure, it's still up and running after a remarkable period of time, but where is everyone? Where is everyone celebrating this remarkable piece of online history? I see countless complaints from other posters here about the lack of population. Wouldn't you want to consider ALL options to try and bring people back into the fold?

How will new graphics help to draw players and keep them? If you recall, people weren't leaving in droves because of the game's aging graphics. It was a change in design philosophies. Seeing the massive success of other games like Diablo, Everquest, as well as the World of Warcraft beta and its popular features, our UO devs in their wisdom believed if they emulated these games that this would help draw in fresh blood. This philosophy of shelving originality in favor of designing a game that was like everything else is what killed UO.

EA has tried on two separate occasions to bring UO into the realm of 3D, and both have failed. Why will it work this time?

I know all of you guys are decent folk. You just want to enjoy your game and be left alone to your own devices. Why rock the boat if you're happy with what's in place? I find no fault with this whatsoever. But maybe this game needs a swift kick in the arse?

 

[Tanivar]

Getting this game back to being skill-based instead of item-based is what needs to be done.

No new, or can't-play-12-hours-a-day, player can compete with the established players who have super-items galore & have put in the massive number of hours needed to pay for training up an imbuer.

Look at the item prices on vendors. 100 Million plus for some items. How many thousands of hours of play does it take to gather that much gold from hunting for a new player? "Wow... I can play at most three hours a day without my wife outright demanding a divorce. I'll need about five years to hunt up enough gold for that uber item. All right!!"

A pre Act of Stupidity (my AoS meaning) shard that restores the game to what it was when it still had a large player base is about all that will save this game.

A pre-AoS shard will be something a new player can become part of, and get somewhere in, without having to buy mega-millions of gold to buy the uber-gear from vendors or to have the funds to train an Imbuer to make them.

You can go out hunting for hours and see hundreds of houses and not one other player. Until EA undoes the damage done by AoS, this game will never recover.

Flame to your hearts content, it won't change reality.

 

[Siteswap]

FYI:
The Stratics mods don't 'side' with anyone.

WHAT! That is hilarious. The stratics mods all have their little pet fanboi's and they most certainly DO side with them.

 

[Evlar]

People aren't demanding a classic shard for the sole purpose of griefing other players. Believing this is just utter nonsense. People want a classic shard because they want to experience what made UO special.

1. A living, breathing world.
2. Player cooperation and interaction
3. The thrill of the hunt
4. The risk of heading out with choice weapons and armor
5. The fear of the unknown
6. The adrenaline rush of meeting an imposing monster or foe in the field

These are all things a classic shard could bring. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but UO's population certainly is not what it used to be. You can blame it on the graphics engine or EA's lack of support on the game prior to SA, but I feel UO lost something special when AOS came out.

What happened to heading up to the Britain smithy and chatting with people while your armor gets repaired? Gone. Why? Infinite durability on items and insurance.

What happened to the need to group and take on powerful creatures or the need to cooperate? Not really necessary. Thanks to the items and artifacts, as well as the 0% risk of losing them save for a bug or no money in the bank to pay insurance, players are veritable gods and can solo close to 95% of the content this game has to offer. In what game, especially an MMO, should a character be able to solo an end-boss?

Where's the adrenaline rush of a challenge or the fear of the unknown? When players can down Dragons, Ancient Wyrms, or Daemons in a matter of seconds, how does one feel apprehension when first seeing a truly powerful foe? Or the long sigh when you won the day and survived, perhaps only by a small margin? Where is the danger?

What is so wrong if EA implements a Classic shard? Half of you have already swore up and down that you have no interest in playing it, so why do you care if EA spends development time to please a potentially large portion of the playerbase? How does this affect you? You guys managed to stick through years of no new content because EA was shifting staff about the country, so why can't you stick it through here? Why is it so hard to let the other guy have some time in the limelight? Lord knows he's earned it.

The demand for a classic shard, whether you believe it or not, is out there. It really is. You think it's bad here with the amount of pro-classic shards floating about? Head over to sites such as MMORPG.com, Somethingawful.com (MMO category), or Gamespot. Places where whenever UO is uttered, former players come out of the woodwork and reflect on how such a tremendous experience UO was for them back in the day, and how they mourn what it has become. Sure, it's anecdotal evidence, and tough to prove unless you see it with your own eyes, so go ahead and look it up for yourself.

But please, don't be that guy. Don't stymie a change simply because you don't agree with it. This game needs something. Can you honestly say that UO is doing well? Sure, it's still up and running after a remarkable period of time, but where is everyone? Where is everyone celebrating this remarkable piece of online history? I see countless complaints from other posters here about the lack of population. Wouldn't you want to consider ALL options to try and bring people back into the fold?

How will new graphics help to draw players and keep them? If you recall, people weren't leaving in droves because of the game's aging graphics. It was a change in design philosophies. Seeing the massive success of other games like Diablo, Everquest, as well as the World of Warcraft beta and its popular features, our UO devs in their wisdom believed if they emulated these games that this would help draw in fresh blood. This philosophy of shelving originality in favor of designing a game that was like everything else is what killed UO.

EA has tried on two separate occasions to bring UO into the realm of 3D, and both have failed. Why will it work this time?

I know all of you guys are decent folk. You just want to enjoy your game and be left alone to your own devices. Why rock the boat if you're happy with what's in place? I find no fault with this whatsoever. But maybe this game needs a swift kick in the arse?

Bernard Hill says it all...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzx6d5h-5Mg

rolleyes:

 

[Llamfia]

To answer your question.

NO.

Why?
Because it went from this

to this

 

[LordDrago]

And another thread falls into a classic vs. non-classic shard debate.....

 

[Tanivar]

And another thread falls into a classic vs. non-classic shard debate.....

Or at least an AoS-free vs. AoS-tainted shards debate.

Maybe UO is why it's taking Blizzard so long to release D3. EA is cramming super-items into UO so fast that Blizzard's programmer's can't keep up.