clean up Siege. lets take out the trash.

[Kage]

Okay SP we have two well known individuals who need to be ran off the shard. They have both scammed several good members of our community. Enough is a enough!

My suggestion.... Do not sell or buy items from these individuals. Even their guild mates if they have any. If you kill them in the field trash their items. They're both fond of name changes but easily identifiable.

So let's actually stick to it this time and eliminate the scum that plagues our community.

I would encourage all guild leaders to support this and talk it over with your guild mates.

 

[Podolak]

Kage! I just got here and you are already running me off?

Ugh!

 

[Kael]

Would that also include not defending an IDOC with the said individuals??

 

[Førsaken]

Would that also include not defending an IDOC with the said individuals??

I did get a chuckle out of this. If I were outnumbered though, I would ally, then kill him.

Just my .02.

 

[Kage]

Would that also include not defending an IDOC with the said individuals??

I would have no problem with not allying during an idoc as long as all the stealthers fight me one one for the indoc.... but we both know that will never happen.

So yes if he was my only option and shot at getting some goodies then yes I would field ally against the hoard of greedy stealth Tamers.

Any other cries?

 

[Kat]

So let's actually stick to it this time and eliminate the scum that plagues our community.

So yes if he was my only option and shot at getting some goodies then yes I would field ally against the hoard of greedy stealth Tamers.

I don't consider that "sticking to it". I think a number of us would be on board with such an effort, but it would need to be an all or nothing type of effort, instead of "I'll stick to it until it benefits me to do otherwise".

My 2 cents.

 

[Kage]

I don't consider that "sticking to it". I think a number of us would be on board with such an effort, but it would need to be an all or nothing type of effort, instead of "I'll stick to it until it benefits me to do otherwise".

My 2 cents.

I don't see a minor field alliance being that big of a deal

Example major idoc full of great items heavily guarded by lets say 6 TnT 4 are stealthers and 2 are tamers. I'm alone so that pretty much means I would have no chance. Idoc is feeled with several arties and cursed arties valued at several mill. I would be a fool to just hand it over on a silver platter...

Think what you will but my intentions was to help our shard. If you have no interest in that then continue to twist and flame away. I will just drop it and innocent people who don't know any better can continue being their victims.

 

[Diablo FTW]

r u serious about that ur almost worst than soulweaver, and worst than me... so stfu .. everyone know what you did few month ago.. dont start that crap

 

[Kat]

I don't see a minor field alliance being that big of a deal

Example major idoc full of great items heavily guarded by lets say 6 TnT 4 are stealthers and 2 are tamers. I'm alone so that pretty much means I would have no chance. Idoc is feeled with several arties and cursed arties valued at several mill. I would be a fool to just hand it over on a silver platter...

Think what you will but my intentions was to help our shard. If you have no interest in that then continue to twist and flame away. I will just drop it and innocent people who don't know any better can continue being their victims.

I'm not twisting anything. Anyone that can read can see what you are saying loud and clearly. You want to help our shard, but your greed over rides that.

The way I see it, field allying with him encourages him to play, not leave. It also gives him a chance to gain items of value... Again, encouraging him to play AND profit. Maybe you should get your greed in check before you propose such actions.

 

[Sweeney]

Kat you want to shun someone because of their past? We all **** up, we all grow up.. would you apply that philosophy to your own guild members? Past mistakes dictate their future?

Siege has a community, and that community knows who should be trusted based on the past, as well as the current, status of that person.

Siege knows who should be trusted with a grain of salt.. you think those field allies didn't consider that? They knew the risks, and they took it. It worked out for them.. big deal, and only a temporary deal at that.

I thought you wanted people on Siege? Not just people that never made mistakes, never had regrets about their actions.

You're becoming very tyrannical in your view of this shard.

 

[Kage]

I basically said I would use to gain an advantage just as I would use the spawn in blighted while getting ganked. I never said I wouldn't turn on him after creating an even playing field.

 

[Kat]

I basically said I would use to gain an advantage just as I would use the spawn in blighted while getting ganked. I never said I wouldn't turn on him after creating an even playing field.

You could just as easily ally with us or any other guild/PvPers to shut him out completely and show him its pointless to even try. Guess that didn't occur to you.

 

[Kage]

You could just as easily ally with us or any other guild/PvPers to shut him out completely and show him its pointless to even try. Guess that didn't occur to you.

I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. I was speaking of an idoc situation only. I may be wrong in my assumption but I don't think you guys would just allow me to freely hang out at an idoc and just loot away. Now if you would then ya I would have no problem teaming up and killing him. I was just simply saying if it was a valuable idoc and you guys was trying to take me out that I would use him to gain footing and then kill him.

 

[Diablo FTW]

why does that need to be me anyway.,,

soulweaver dont even play.....


i just wish voodoo or native canadian would still play this damn game..<

 

[CroakerTnT]

I don't consider that "sticking to it". I think a number of us would be on board with such an effort, but it would need to be an all or nothing type of effort, instead of "I'll stick to it until it benefits me to do otherwise".

My 2 cents.

QFT

 

[Kage]

I tell you since I would rather get rid of them I will submit on this and just bite the bullet even if it means I might miss out. I will not field ally him and will just gank him with you guys. I would rather rid siege of the scum.

 

[Kat]

Kage - I haven't spoken to my guild about it because most were logged out when I got home, but I would imagine a number of them would prefer to share an IDOC with you than share it with a scammer. The despise for such players is just as strong in the enemy camp!

Btw... My warnings about purchasing from certain sellers has gotten quite a number of people to think twice. I can tell you that several players from here, other shards and forums have contacted me to get the scoop and a few sought advice on how to protect themselves. If more of us took the time to offer a general warning without breaking the RoC, we could at least reduce the number of players that could be scammed.

 

[Diablo FTW]

Kage - I haven't spoken to my guild about it because most were logged out when I got home, but I would imagine a number of them would prefer to share an IDOC with you than share it with a scammer. The despise for such players is just as strong in the enemy camp!

Btw... My warnings about purchasing from certain sellers has gotten quite a number of people to think twice. I can tell you that several players from here, other shards and forums have contacted me to get the scoop and a few sought advice on how to protect themselves. If more of us took the time to offer a general warning without breaking the RoC, we could at least reduce the number of players that could be scammed.

LOL

you are talking to that about kage....

i guess your and hypocrite,,, and you know it
you know what he did that even worse than all soulweaver thing he did...



STFU

 

[Kat]

I tell you since I would rather get rid of them I will submit on this and just bite the bullet even if it means I might miss out. I will not field ally him and will just gank him with you guys. I would rather rid siege of the scum.

Sounds good. I will speak with my guild and be in touch!

 

[Førsaken]

I tell you since I would rather get rid of them I will submit on this and just bite the bullet even if it means I might miss out. I will not field ally him and will just gank him with you guys. I would rather rid siege of the scum.

Would that also include not defending an IDOC with the said individuals??

I did get a chuckle out of this. If I were outnumbered though, I would ally, then kill him.

Just my .02.

Lets talk about greed for a moment: Kat, you have stated a few times that your entire guild are well off and have all the gold and silver they'll ever need. I know it was just an exaggeration to prove your point, but you don't think greed drives your guild at these IDOCS?

They already have the advantage due to somehow always able to field so many people during the late morning, early afternoon for IDOCS (during the work/school week mind you)-To top it off, majority play stealthers.

I stick to my first post, if you guys were playing lame over an IDOC, that means I/we should be able to play lame to level the playing field, then kill the pos.

Not sure why Kage wouldn't stick to his guns on this one...Only way to make this happen is you would have to play nice with Kage during IDOC. ><

 

[Crow]

In over 10 off and on years in game I've never been scammed, ripped off or f'd over. I generally don’t trust people, and I especially don’t give them the chance to work their magic on me.

If you are going to shun or look down on someone because of what they do or who they are, stick to it. Otherwise you are simply justifying their behavior and setting up their next scam.

I think this is a general practice of most people. But it only takes a few people to be greedy or stupid for said trash to flurish.

 

[Kael]

I tell you since I would rather get rid of them I will submit on this and just bite the bullet even if it means I might miss out. I will not field ally him and will just gank him with you guys. I would rather rid siege of the scum.

Would that also include not defending an IDOC with the said individuals??

I did get a chuckle out of this. If I were outnumbered though, I would ally, then kill him.

Just my .02.

Lets talk about greed for a moment: Kat, you have stated a few times that your entire guild are well off and have all the gold and silver they'll ever need. I know it was just an exaggeration to prove your point, but you don't think greed drives your guild at these IDOCS?

They already have the advantage due to somehow always able to field so many people during the late morning, early afternoon for IDOCS (during the work/school week mind you)-To top it off, majority play stealthers.

I stick to my first post, if you guys were playing lame over an IDOC, that means I/we should be able to play lame to level the playing field, then kill the pos.

Not sure why Kage wouldn't stick to his guns on this one...Only way to make this happen is you would have to play nice with Kage during IDOC. ><

The IDOC I was referring to was camped by just Diablo and Kage for like 30 minutes. Kage looked like he was even giving him some pointers on how to use pixies lol

I'm not sure who showed up as I was heading out for work but it looked like Newt and Doive showed up after.

 

[Førsaken]

The IDOC I was referring to was camped by just Diablo and Kage for like 30 minutes. Kage looked like he was even giving him some pointers on how to use pixies lol

I'm not sure who showed up as I was heading out for work but it looked like Newt and Doive showed up after.

Well, I was thinking if the scenario came up and TnT or whoever are being "greedy" with their little stealth templates and outnumbering everyone yet again, yes, I would even the playing field then have my way with Diablo.

 

[GoodGuy]

Okay SP we have two well known individuals who need to be ran off the shard. They have both scammed several good members of our community. Enough is a enough!

My suggestion.... Do not sell or buy items from these individuals. Even their guild mates if they have any. If you kill them in the field trash their items. They're both fond of name changes but easily identifiable.

So let's actually stick to it this time and eliminate the scum that plagues our community.

I would encourage all guild leaders to support this and talk it over with your guild mates.

Talk about the Irony

 

[Diablo FTW]

Well, I was thinking if the scenario came up and TnT or whoever are being "greedy" with their little stealth templates and outnumbering everyone yet again, yes, I would even the playing field then have my way with Diablo.

Talk about the Irony

QFT

 

[Monolith]

I stick to my first post, if you guys were playing lame over an IDOC, that means I/we should be able to play lame to level the playing field, then kill the pos.

Not sure why Kage wouldn't stick to his guns on this one...Only way to make this happen is you would have to play nice with Kage during IDOC. ><

Forsaken....whats the topic here? Rid of scammers form Siege? or lets play lame to level the playing field?

Kage posted about ridding all scammers on Siege. To do this.....most everyone will have to have little Selfless Service. I guess if TNT is outnumbering an IDOC, then I guess any other players will have to decide whether to ally these scammers they so want to rid of on Siege or or have little selfless service and put the agenda ahead of loot.

Let me get this right......was this TNT posting about getting rid of scammers on Siege or BFF? I support Siege.....only home I know.

 

[Diablo FTW]

Forsaken....whats the topic here? Rid of scammers form Siege? or lets play lame to level the playing field?

Kage posted about ridding all scammers on Siege. To do this.....most everyone will have to have little Selfless Service. I guess if TNT is outnumbering an IDOC, then I guess any other players will have to decide whether to ally these scammers they so want to rid of on Siege or or have little selfless service and put the agenda ahead of loot.

Let me get this right......was this TNT posting about getting rid of scammers on Siege or BFF? I support Siege.....only home I know.


its only about me... such hate. im never gonna leave `:/ that make no cense at all

and to be honest soulweaver doesnt do idoc... he was doing mine that i find and was keeping all the loot lol

but why talking about idoc... not everyone do them. mostly just some blues ya know ... or when tnt does them . they dont do that always cause they work during the week.
so i guess its pointless

 

[Speedy Orkit]

So don't sell/buy with Diablo...but camp IDOC's with him where many people have made their fortunes?

GENIUS.

 

[Monolith]

So don't sell/buy with Diablo...but camp IDOC's with him where many people have made their fortunes?

GENIUS.

QFT.......thats what I'm trying to understand. Where to we draw the line? I guess its all about when it benefits us.

 

[John Connelly]

It's been tried, T'Challa summed it up well.

The problem is, the boycotts on someone with a bad rep never hold. Someone always gives in and deals with them again, and make stupid posts about how *their* deal with them went fine, garnering a smattering of trust yet again, and the cycle begins anew.

Which is the exact reason scams, ripoffs, and whatnot have happened so often recently.

To which someone from BFF replied.

Speaking of which...Just bought two BLACK natural dyed Conjurer Garbs off him, that were hero dyed *as I wanted* and it all went smoothly.

Thanks Diablo!

Organise your own guild before you make an appeal to the shard to sort out the trash.

 

[Førsaken]

So don't sell/buy with Diablo...but camp IDOC's with him where many people have made their fortunes?

GENIUS.

QFT.......thats what I'm trying to understand. Where to we draw the line? I guess its all about when it benefits us.

@ Speedy - Good job at twisting the post buddy. Again, if TnT or whomever wants to start the lame game with their stealthers just to compete at an IDOC, I have no problem using Diablo to even the field then killing him. He knows I would anyways.

@ Monolith - I know it's hard for you to understand, as most things are when it comes to UO.

Guess you both fail at reading though, seeing how I said it'd only work if you guys played nice at an IDOC, which we know won't happen...So, is it ultimately about what benefits you, or???

 

[SoulWeaver]

Okay SP we have two well known individuals who need to be ran off the shard. They have both scammed several good members of our community. Enough is a enough!

My suggestion.... Do not sell or buy items from these individuals. Even their guild mates if they have any. If you kill them in the field trash their items. They're both fond of name changes but easily identifiable.

So let's actually stick to it this time and eliminate the scum that plagues our community.

I would encourage all guild leaders to support this and talk it over with your guild mates.

*Phew glad im not on that list*
I dont do name changes and if i do its to change a new character I bought and I always identify myself.

I have everything I need so thats not me again...

and I haven't played Siege in over a month now and dont plan too, so get rid of that Evil Diablo Scum Bucket! lol Ya D!

 

[Førsaken]

SW why do you bother trying to save face? We all know you're a liar.

 

[Monolith]

@ Speedy - Good job at twisting the post buddy. Again, if TnT or whomever wants to start the lame game with their stealthers just to compete at an IDOC, I have no problem using Diablo to even the field then killing him. He knows I would anyways.

@ Monolith - I know it's hard for you to understand, as most things are when it comes to UO.

Guess you both fail at reading though, seeing how I said it'd only work if you guys played nice at an IDOC, which we know won't happen...So, is it ultimately about what benefits you, or???

Yes....UO is difficult since its only a game. But.....again, we're not talking about game mechanics here are we? Or are you having a hard time understanding?

You know.....if your guild is going to suggest or recommend something on boards, then I expect your guild to take front and lead. Or are you just all mouth like always? Why am I even talking to you kiddo....you have no grasp at anything other than "I pwned YOU".

I actaully commend Kage for his post and thinking whats best for Siege. Sometimes Siege needs good leaders to lead the Siege community and not just their guild. I'm sure if Kage is willing to sacrifice and place the needs of Siege above his personal needs, I'm sure the Siege community will follow. But I'm sure someone as immature as Forsaken will screw this up like always, but he pwnes everyone on this game. I'm so happy his thrilled that he's finally found something he's good at in life.

 

[Diablo FTW]

Yes....UO is difficult since its only a game. But.....again, we're not talking about game mechanics here are we? Or are you having a hard time understanding?

You know.....if your guild is going to suggest or recommend something on boards, then I expect your guild to take front and lead. Or are you just all mouth like always? Why am I even talking to you kiddo....you have no grasp at anything other than "I pwned YOU".

I actaully commend Kage for his post and thinking whats best for Siege. Sometimes Siege needs good leaders to lead the Siege community and not just their guild. I'm sure if Kage is willing to sacrifice and place the needs of Siege above his personal needs, I'm sure the Siege community will follow. But I'm sure someone as immature as Forsaken will screw this up like always, but he pwnes everyone on this game. I'm so happy his thrilled that he's finally found something he's good at in life.

PWND MONO...


get real people.... nobody get rid of me... im Like a big dik... that u will always have around


unless u cut it... or u kill me up to you come get me SON!!!! waiting 4 u with my dog ready to kill yo face

 

[Monolith]

As the days continue to count down, the Siege Community continue to dwindle in numbers. Siege which once was many guilds to now only few. The Siege Community itself is almost the size of a guild. I have respect for anyone who places Siege Community above his/her own interests. More is needed especially during these harsh times on Siege.

 

[SoulWeaver]

SW why do you bother trying to save face? We all know you're a liar.

Save Face?

How so what did I just lie about in my post nothing... lol

I dont care if people sell me stuff or dont sell me stuff buy my stuff or dont buy my stuff lol.

It's a game, time for you to realize it..

 

[Monolith]

PWND MONO...

hehe.....I've been seeing this a lot lately.

 

[Symma]

Ooooh not sure why my character ended up in this thread lol. I stealth but I certainly don't work with any of the people mentioned.

Haven't done any IDOCs in a few weeks. Can't really do much when fighting kicks off. Just hope that any IDOCs I find are quiet ones

 

[Førsaken]

Yes....UO is difficult since its only a game. But.....again, we're not talking about game mechanics here are we? Or are you having a hard time understanding?

You know.....if your guild is going to suggest or recommend something on boards, then I expect your guild to take front and lead. Or are you just all mouth like always? Why am I even talking to you kiddo....you have no grasp at anything other than "I pwned YOU".

I actaully commend Kage for his post and thinking whats best for Siege. Sometimes Siege needs good leaders to lead the Siege community and not just their guild. I'm sure if Kage is willing to sacrifice and place the needs of Siege above his personal needs, I'm sure the Siege community will follow. But I'm sure someone as immature as Forsaken will screw this up like always, but he pwnes everyone on this game. I'm so happy his thrilled that he's finally found something he's good at in life.

Monolith, you are really pressed on me and real life-You do know that it IS just a game as you say right? Starting to feel you don't practice what you preach.

Stop avoiding the fact that you're hypocrites. You know it, I know it. I don't care who suggested it, if anything your guild leader started this when she was trolling every post Diablo or Soulweaver made.

Fact is, it is a game to me and I see that, you apparently do not. I'm perfectly fine with not selling or buying from Diablo, but I'm also perfectly fine killing the stealth zerg before killing Diablo if that was the case.

Get over it kiddo.

 

[kelmo]

Until egos and greed are set aside, this will not work. You folks talk amoungst yourselves. Try this again perhaps... Personal attacks from several have ended this discussion. I would hope to see the next attempt to actually "help build community".

If I see a unified front instead of a forum flame war... Well, we will see.