Enhanced Client should implement the features of some 3rd party programs...

[eekamouse]

Auto-open corpse
Auto-open door
Ability to disable dbl click for dismount

In addition, a real effort needs to be made to add in much better art assets, as well as fix the majority of outstanding bugs.

All of this needs to happen before any 3rd party detection is put in.

A few third party programs (considered taboo here), have some features that make UO playable.

Other's, obviously, need to be banned outright.

This thread should really NOT turn into a flame war. It should be a discussion of features that are SORELY lacking in a 12-13 year old game.

I'm not interested in your morality. Just your pragmatism.

 

[Old Man of UO]

I find the Enhanced Client to be quite playable without ANY 3rd party programs. The open-door and open-corpse macros work just fine in the EC.

But I would like a way to stop from accidentally dismounting myself from an errant double-click, but how would you do that without blocking the dismount specials?

Other than that, I say implement the 3rd party detection NOW~!

 

[Invalid]

but how would you do that without blocking the dismount specials?

Double Clicking yourself and getting hit by a special are 2 completely different things in the client and have nothing to do with each other. Using 3rd party to block self dismount in war mode does not effect weapon specials.

I assume that's why EA/M to remove it from UOA, they just read "Block Dismount" and assumed it was referring to weapon specials when it actually has nothing to do with that.

As for features being added, I just want a larger game window in the CC. Everything else offered by 3rd party proggys I could really care less about. Sure there's a few others I'd love to see, but the game window size is something I can't deal with.

 

[Tazar]

Auto-open corpse
Auto-open door
Ability to disable dbl click for dismount

In addition, a real effort needs to be made to add in much better art assets, as well as fix the majority of outstanding bugs.

All of this needs to happen before any 3rd party detection is put in.

A few third party programs (considered taboo here), have some features that make UO playable.

Other's, obviously, need to be banned outright.

This thread should really NOT turn into a flame war. It should be a discussion of features that are SORELY lacking in a 12-13 year old game.

I'm not interested in your morality. Just your pragmatism.

I have never even used UO-Assist and I find UO fully playable for almost 13 years now - I really don't see the point.

 

[ColterDC]

A few third party programs (considered taboo here), have some features that make UO playable.

Weird, I played UO for a decade and never needed a 3rd party program.

I guess my definition of playable and yours are completely different, along with our stances on cheating.

 

[deadite]

Hey, I'm all for them continuing to make the EC better! I rarely miss UOAssist while playing it.

But honestly, I only used UOAssist for the most basic features. I never dug into a lot of the advanced stuff.

 

[FoodStamp [GL]]

I don't see any problem with adding the functions you listed to BOTH clients. I play mainly in 2d and would like to have these for the classic client also.

 

[eekamouse]

Weird, I played UO for a decade and never needed a 3rd party program.

I guess my definition of playable and yours are completely different, along with our stances on cheating.

Yes they do. Drastically.

 

[Schuyler Bain]

I take issue with these two:

Auto-open corpse
Auto-open door

Unless I am misunderstanding what you are asking for, but if the game is going to play itself (open doors and corpses) then why am I needed? I want to play a game (interactively) not watch a video of UO. I know I know you are busy doing other things in game to bother with doors and such, but that is my feeling on the matter. Use the built-in macro system to make it easier to do these things, but auto opening... really?

I agree with some of the others replies in that I have been playing (on and off) since launch day and never once missed these features.

 

[Lord Chaos]

LOL@you considering the objective of UO Gameplay as opening doors and corpses.

 

[Schuyler Bain]

LOL@you considering the objective of UO Gameplay as opening doors and corpses.

Umm well I'll guess this was directed at me... no, but I do consider them to be part of the basic interface just like moving my avatar on the screen, typing to chat and so on. I certainly don't need the game to hold my hand and do the basics for me. That is just LAME!

 

[Arcus]

Weird, I played UO for a decade and never needed a 3rd party program.

I guess my definition of playable and yours are completely different, along with our stances on cheating.

Yes they do. Drastically.

Yes, you (eekamouse) support cheating and actively take part in it and try to justify it away by thinking in your own mind that its your way of "suggesting new features" .WTF is that.

 

[Invalid]

Go whirlwind a SA spawn sometime and it really shows how stupid the looting system in this game is. It is so pointless to even try to loot that we have people on our shard that do nothing but stealth around and loot other people's kills after they go free for all.

And yes, it was fine 10 years ago when you didn't kill 9 mobs at a time.

 

[Cetric]

i have no problems opening doors

i have no problems looting people

i have only accidentally dismounted myself a handful of times, and that is because my dismount macro is a button on my mouse, and i occassionally tap it.



From my viewpoint, it is a pointless use of resources when they have so much better to do.

 

[ColterDC]

LOL@you considering the objective of UO Gameplay as opening doors and corpses.

LOL@you and all the other cheaters who need 3rd party programs to do simple tasks such as opening doors and corpses.

God forbid you noobs had to play back in the day, where you not only had to open the corpse but also loot your own items after death. (no auto loot/dress).

I've got a better idea, how about when you log into UO it just asks whether you want to actually play today or if you'd like to just use the auto-pilot function.

Your posts = massive fail.

 

[Lord Chaos]

LOL@you and all the other cheaters who need 3rd party programs to do simple tasks such as opening doors and corpses.

First of all, its already established that I don't cheat. Secondly, even if I did, then I certainly wouldn't need it to open doors and corpses for me. While its annoying to open corpses on uneven ground, its just how it is.

 

[Viper09]

Weird, I played UO for a decade and never needed a 3rd party program.

I guess my definition of playable and yours are completely different, along with our stances on cheating.

Yes they do. Drastically.

So you are completely unable to play this game without 3rd party programs? Wow. Just wow.

 

[eekamouse]

Seriously.

Just lock this thread. I can't post and have a rational discussion without the same five people coming out and start name calling etc...

I don't care anymore.

Lock it please.

 

[Viper09]

Well you need to word your posts a lot better. You're thread reads "legalize 3rd party programs by merging them with the game." I see this, as well as most others here, as "let's automate everything so we don't have to do any work."

Enhanced client already has most of the basic macros that UOA has.

 

[ColterDC]

Seriously.

Just lock this thread. I can't post and have a rational discussion without the same five people coming out and start name calling etc...

I don't care anymore.

Lock it please.

Oh poor little you, just take your toys and go home.

Sorry if myself and all the other people who despise cheating little piles of scum don't argee with your pro cheat agenda.

Deal with it.

 

[Invalid]

Oh poor little you, just take your toys and go home.

Sorry if myself and all the other people who despise cheating little piles of scum don't argee with your pro cheat agenda.

Deal with it.

I'd chose to play with 200 cheaters over 1 person with an attitude like yours any day of the week. Your rock is calling.

 

[eekamouse]

Oh poor little you, just take your toys and go home.

Sorry if myself and all the other people who despise cheating little piles of scum don't argee with your pro cheat agenda.

Deal with it.

Dude whatever. You don't even play the game.

I'm just calling to attention the NON-CHEAT aspects of these programs. I don't think opening stuff is cheating. I don't think user friendly enhancements are cheating.

 

[ColterDC]

I'd chose to play with 200 cheaters over 1 person with an attitude like yours any day of the week. Your rock is calling.

That's ok, cheaters never have liked me much.

 

[Siteswap]

I currently have no active accounts but every now and then I consider coming back. When I do consider returning I just log onto UHall and pick a thread. Today it was this one. A couple of minutes reading all your posts and Im reminded at why I quit and the desire to return vanishes ...

Thank you all you whining little children.

 

[Invalid]

Thank you all you whining little children.

Thanks for stopping by!!

 

[Evlar]

I think half of the trouble here are a result of the differences between the legacy client and the enhanced client user interfaces.

Although I've never used any 3rd party apps myself, I can understand to a certain extent, why people might use them with the legacy client, for basic functions unavailable in the enhanced client, but available in the enhanced client.

It's one of the reasons why I asked a dev the other day, why they've never opted for a single client over the years, although it's something I get the impression many of them have favoured. Ok, you can argue lots of different things about all the clients, but looking at it in an objective manner, I don't think half the problems or issues open for discussion here on the forums, would be the case if there had been just one client in use.

User interface functionality is and important aspect in the overall quality of the user experience of any game.

 

[Invalid]

That's ok, cheaters never have liked me much.

That has nothing to do with it, but feel free to think whatever you like.

 

[Viper09]

I think half of the trouble here are a result of the differences between the legacy client and the enhanced client user interfaces.

Although I've never used any 3rd party apps myself, I can understand to a certain extent, why people might use them with the legacy client, for basic functions unavailable in the enhanced client, but available in the enhanced client.

You mean "basic functions unavailable in the legacy client, but available in the enhanced client."?

I understand people using UOA. I do wish they would add the features of the EC to the classic. I wouldn't use them, never needed to, but I'm sure others would like it.

 

[Evlar]

You mean "basic functions unavailable in the legacy client, but available in the enhanced client."?

I understand people using UOA. I do wish they would add the features of the EC to the classic. I wouldn't use them, never needed to, but I'm sure others would like it.

That's right. Damn typos... they're worse than gremlins

 

[StifledArgument]

I haven't seen anything in these posts that mention this, but you know what would be great? (I am still fuming about water pitchers, so yes, I have a tone to my posts).

If we are talking about things to add to the EC, let's allow people to repair scrolls for repair deeds without having to manually move them constantly to a main bag(if the tool and items are in a bag). I don't think anyone is founding their empire based of the price of repair deeds, so let's try to break one thing down and make it easier.