With the total exception of 1 - that's ONE - pay for play MMO, there are no established games out there that are holding on to subs. With the exception of 1 - that's ONE - they've all been bleeding subs. Some to the free browser games, some due to the craptastic economy, more than a few to that 1 - that's ONE - MMO that is still doing better than anyone would have imagined possible or likely.Why did UO turn into the s@#& hole that it is today?
Because whiny players like every last one of you cried and cried till you got your way.
Every single last expansion since AOS has lost more and more players.
UO will be shut down in the next few years and it is solely the fault of players like yourselves.
For those of you wishing for a classic sever?
You will not get it. You will at most get an abortion put together by the same group of people who ruined UO to begin with.
Any classic server you get will be so heavily customized it will be a failure and add to the large list of disappointments to come out of EA.
To the dev team if you read this, You people should be ashamed of yourselves.
You are failures, this is not my opinion this is a fact backed up by the record losses of subscribers that have occurred under your leadership.
You people get paid a salary to come up with failures that have done nothing but lost your company money, you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Enjoy your craptastic EA servers, I am going to go play November 1999 T2A on a shard larger than most production servers.
In the meantime, all the *UO Killers* - those new games that have come out that were going to completely and utterly destroy UO by taking what was left of the die-hard fan base... they've all died a fairly miserable death.
What you are failing to understand, and that failure comes from NOT reading the entire thread, is that the OP admitted to making a mistake in the titling of the thread. The basic issue is, what constitutes classic? It does mean different things to different people. And no one person has the ability, nor the right, to just barge in and tell everyone that *THIS IS THE WAY IT WAS, AND THE WAY IT SHALL BE*.
That's why we, as a collective, including current players, past players, Trammies, reds, and by golly, even some old PK's, have been hammering out things like a time frame, and issues that may have existed during that time frame, and how to fix them NOW, so we don't end up with another Trammel/AoS server.
With the exception of 4-5 people, yourself included, everyone has conceded that there were indeed issues with pretty much every *classic* era prior to pub 16, which we ALL agree is off the table.
My final point to you, which may well be a wasted effort, if you are indeed rage quitting the topic -
Speaking for nobody but myself, DESPITE all the issues with UO... DESPITE AoS... DESPITE the gimplate of the week - I still play UO for one reason and one reason only - It's still the best game on the market, even as broken as it is. And I participate in this thread for one reason and one reason only - to try and convince the *CURRENT* development team, which had NOTHING to do with Pub 16 nor AoS, to create for the userbase a new server - a classic, pre-AoS, pre Pub 16 server, but to please do so in a fashion that does not recreate all the issues that lead to Trammel, and ultimately, a ****-poor Diablo clone.
And I'm sure I speak for the majority of people here in saying that we WELCOME any and all input, as long as it is done in a constructive, non-insulting manner. It doesn't matter when you played, what you played, if you play, if you don't, or anything else. All that matters is that we maintain a level of civility. Otherwise, the Stratics mods will cut this off like a foot loaded up with gangrene.
The ball, as they say, is in your court.