The glitch that mage me quit

[ronxj6]

3 accounts. no more. I spent $40 on 2 x shard tokens at UO Gamecodes. Transfered 1 char from ATL to Furmosa to with gold and items. Combined that stuff with items I had there from another theif account. Loaded up myself, bank box and 5 pack animals. Xsharded back to my main shard only to find out that my pack animals didn't go with me!!! I logged onto Furomosa and found that the 5 packies were still at the in in Delucia. Couldn'
t xshard the owner for a day because of the waiting period. So I camped out at the inn until they went wild and dropped their load. Well 3 of the ended up not dropping, probably because they were not bonded. 1 bonded packy dropped a bag on the ground but the other packy's bag somehow ended up on te roof of that in where one cannot teleport too. Paging a GM gseveral times got me no where. Bottom line was a loss of over 150 mil in items. How the hell does ones pack animals not get transfered with you when you cross shard over after showing as being included as items that you are taking back. So I dropped the rest of the items at the luna gate, deleted characters. If nothing could be done to help me out with THEIR DANG GLITCH then nothing can be done with me saving the money for 3 accounts and no longer playing UO. UO means as little to me now as I do to them. 11 year vet, won't make 12 lol

 

[Beer_Cayse]

ummm, before anyone else gets their licks in and in no particular priority:


IBTL


IBTM


Can I haz ur stufz?


I think it's all sorts of wrong to be this twisted up about a) pixels and b) pixels owned by EA. But then again that's me ... it's only a game Beer. <shrug>

 

[Zayin666]

Sorry to hear this

Its always bad when a bug like this hits.

Hope you find some fun in another game or in the RL

 

[Heimi]

11 years and you don't know how to teleport yourself onto a roof?

Suppose I should put a disclaimer, I don't mean the Teleport spell.

 

[popps]

Just trying to see if I understood well what the problem was.

When transferring, because of a bug, only the character transferred and the 5 pack horses did not and where left behind.

The player could not re-transfer the character owning the packhorses back to that shard because of the 24 hours limit between separate transfers.

Since the pack horses were in trammel, they could not be accessed by other characters not owning them nor could they be killed to retrieve their stuff.

Eventually, they wandered away, in some unaccessible point and the items were lost.

Did I understand it well ?

If so, then could there be ways to prevent this ?

Frist of all, if this was a problem related to a transfer, shouldn't a Game Master have been able to tag the pack horses and transfer them to the destination shard ?

Second, could perhaps this have happened because the pack horses were not bonded to the character transferring ?

That is, would it be good advice, whenever possible of course, that a player before transferring waits for the 5 pack horses to bond ?

Lastly, but this would be only possible if one had 2 accounts or a friend helping, perhaps it would be advisable to "friend" the pack horses to another character (from a second account or from a friend) so that, should the pack horses not transfer, at least one could retrieve the items thanking to the fact that one is friended to them.

Has this bug happened to anyone else before or is it something new ?

 

[A Rev]

The glitch / bug has been around for ages.

Its why ive never understood why people dont x-fer from there house.

Lock the doors, then if it happens the items remain in your house...seems simple to me. I always will x-fer from my house, its in fel as well so i can just kill them to take the items. Although ive never had it happen to me.

 

[popps]

The glitch / bug has been around for ages.

Its why ive never understood why people dont x-fer from there house.

Lock the doors, then if it happens the items remain in your house...seems simple to me. I always will x-fer from my house, its in fel as well so i can just kill them to take the items. Although ive never had it happen to me.

Well, sometimes one can happen to transfer from a shard where they do not have a house nor can place one because they have one already on another shard....

Would there be a bank better than another (i.e. safer) to use to this purpose ?

That is, a bank quiet enough and with a design such that there is a place where pack horses can stay without wandering away in case they would not transfer along with the character so that one can retrieve the items later ?

Things would be MUCH easier, though, if all character on a shard from a given account would be automatically owners of the pack horses or llamas.

This way, should the packies be left behind, one could simply log on with another character other than the one which just transferred, retrieve the items (since all characters on that account would own them, automatically) and so prevent the items to get lost.

 

[blueturtle]

Next time just friend a char on second account to the packys, plus if you don't see the packys disapear into your xsfer crate when you get to look at all of the items and pets, you did something wrong and just hit cancel say all follow me and repeat

 

[o2bavr6]

Frist of all, if this was a problem related to a transfer, shouldn't a Game Master have been able to tag the pack horses and transfer them to the destination shard ?

We are sorry please consult the online database, visit other websites or ask the in game community to resolve your issue. have a nice day GM Use less.

 

[RavenWinterHawk]

Hey did all the packies show up in your transfer gump before you transfered.

Just wondering if the glitch is they don't attach or they do attach in the gump window that you confirm but dont actually go with you.

 

[longshanks]

call it the nyc cynicism in me but when ever i read or hear of something like this i tend to side on the fact that the error lies with the player and not with the game mechanics.

Read the posts above. Seems like there are several ways to guard against this glitch in the event there is a glitch in the game mechanics.

and to the op who spoke of killing the packy in fel and getting his stuff back. this made me laugh out loud for in this instance fel becomes a safer place than tram.... go figure.

 

[omgmir]

ummm, before anyone else gets their licks in and in no particular priority:


IBTL


IBTM


Can I haz ur stufz?


I think it's all sorts of wrong to be this twisted up about a) pixels and b) pixels owned by EA. But then again that's me ... it's only a game Beer. <shrug>

Yea you totally wouldn't care at all if you lost 150 mil due to a game glitch right? rolleyes:

 

[Beer_Cayse]

No ... it's a game - a freakin' game. I've lost lots over the years and all I've done is gripe about it and go back to playing.

I used to play when reverts were a daily occurrence ... if you were lucky. Many times there was more than one. Folks lost lots during those. Oh well.

 

[Konge]

You know... when transfering, they put everything in a statue form, in a box, so you can check that you have EVERYTHING BEFORE you transfer. If your packies were still standing next to you, obviously they weren't going to transfer, they would have been a statuette in the transfering box. At that point you could have canceled, tried again, or paged. But you didn't. Sure there may have been a glitch, but you could easily have prevented this.

 

[omgmir]

No ... it's a game - a freakin' game. I've lost lots over the years and all I've done is gripe about it and go back to playing.

I used to play when reverts were a daily occurrence ... if you were lucky. Many times there was more than one. Folks lost lots during those. Oh well.

That's funny cause i've been playing since 99 and I don't remember any time of multiple rollbacks daily.

 

[hungry4knowhow]

it happened a couple times in beta, but i dont remember any post launch times with multiple daily rollbacks either.

 

[ronxj6]

ummm, before anyone else gets their licks in and in no particular priority:


IBTL


IBTM


Can I haz ur stufz?


I think it's all sorts of wrong to be this twisted up about a) pixels and b) pixels owned by EA. But then again that's me ... it's only a game Beer. <shrug>

Limited thinking here. I'm not twisted up about pixels. I am upset that I did not get what I paid for ( a working transfer) and I just have to sit back and enjoy it?

 

[ronxj6]

Sorry to hear this

Its always bad when a bug like this hits.

Hope you find some fun in another game or in the RL

Thank you, and I always do

 

[ronxj6]

11 years and you don't know how to teleport yourself onto a roof?

Suppose I should put a disclaimer, I don't mean the Teleport spell.

I find it amazing that you think after I have played for 11 years that I did not think of that. But you wouldn't have asked the question had you bothered to read where I wrote that one is unable to teleport to that roof top.

 

[ronxj6]

Just trying to see if I understood well what the problem was.

If so, then could there be ways to prevent this ?

Frist of all, shouldn't a Game Master have been able to tag the pack horses and transfer them to the destination shard ?

Second, could perhaps this have happened because the pack horses were not bonded to the character transferring ?

GM's responded several times quoting the lost item policy and never quite understood that my items were not lost, they just didn't transfer as supposed to. WHich is what I paid for.

 

[ronxj6]

call it the nyc cynicism in me but when ever i read or hear of something like this i tend to side on the fact that the error lies with the player and not with the game mechanics.

Read the posts above. Seems like there are several ways to guard against this glitch in the event there is a glitch in the game mechanics.

and to the op who spoke of killing the packy in fel and getting his stuff back. this made me laugh out loud for in this instance fel becomes a safer place than tram.... go figure.

What could I possibly have done wrong. I started the transfer in the proper location. CHECKED ALL THE INVENTORY that was supposed to have been transfered as instructed. I have x sharded many times doing it the same way.

 

[Nyses]

No ... it's a game - a freakin' game. I've lost lots over the years and all I've done is gripe about it and go back to playing.

I used to play when reverts were a daily occurrence ... if you were lucky. Many times there was more than one. Folks lost lots during those. Oh well.

That's funny cause i've been playing since 99 and I don't remember any time of multiple rollbacks daily.

Oh they used to happen all the time, and yes, even multiple times a day. 99' was about the time Tram came out, the servers were a lot more stable by then.

 

[ronxj6]

The glitch / bug has been around for ages.

Its why ive never understood why people dont x-fer from there house.

Lock the doors, then if it happens the items remain in your house...seems simple to me. I always will x-fer from my house, its in fel as well so i can just kill them to take the items. Although ive never had it happen to me.

If the bug has been around for ages then that's even worse because that means nothing has been done about it. Heck, If I didn't have to wait the 24 hours between char transfers I woulda blew another x shard to to get my stuff back. Yeah that would have been another $40 at the EA game code store, but I would have rather had to do that to to loose it. But it's ok, live and learn. And like anyone else, if ya don'y like what you pay for, don't pay for it. Spend your money on something else.

 

[ronxj6]

Hey did all the packies show up in your transfer gump before you transfered.

Just wondering if the glitch is they don't attach or they do attach in the gump window that you confirm but dont actually go with you.

Yes all 5 packies showed in the transfer container gump window. 2 were bonded and 3 were not

 

[ronxj6]

Yea you totally wouldn't care at all if you lost 150 mil due to a game glitch right? rolleyes:

Well I did loose it and the items are not the main concern. To sum it up EA GAMECODES can sell a product and not care if it works correctly or no, no customer service to deal with the reprocussions of a glitched product.

 

[ronxj6]

No ... it's a game - a freakin' game. I've lost lots over the years and all I've done is gripe about it and go back to playing.

I used to play when reverts were a daily occurrence ... if you were lucky. Many times there was more than one. Folks lost lots during those. Oh well.

Yes it is just a game. One that I paid $40 for something that ended up NOT WORKING right. So because it's a game, I can't expect to get what I paid for? Hell, If the game would have alowed for it, I would have paid another $20 for an x-shard token to go back and get my crap. But I couldn't even do that because of the 24 hour timer. I WILL SPEND MONEY on computer games. But that doesn't mean I am willing to just through it away. I didn't get any help nor a refund so I quit and am taking my money elsewhere. Thats MY TOS lol

 

[Konge]

Limited thinking here. I'm not twisted up about pixels. I am upset that I did not get what I paid for ( a working transfer) and I just have to sit back and enjoy it?

Read my post, you have the ability to check, and verify that the packies would transfer, and, when you noticed they weren't in the chest, you had the opportunity to cancel. You didn't.

 

[Lady Laurel]

Read my post, you have the ability to check, and verify that the packies would transfer, and, when you noticed they weren't in the chest, you had the opportunity to cancel. You didn't.

He has already said that the packies WERE in the chest (Check posts #21 and #24)

 

[Konge]

He has already said that the packies WERE in the chest (Check posts #21 and #24)

if they WERE in his chest, they they wouldn't have been left on the shard to go wild, just deleted in the transfer.

 

[Nails]

if you do not say all follow me before you go you can sometimes leave them behind. happened to me before the xfer timer was in place and i was able to recover. I am sorry to hear about the bs u went through and the even worse GM Response.. there was a time an actual gm would come and support u.

 

[ronxj6]

Read my post, you have the ability to check, and verify that the packies would transfer, and, when you noticed they weren't in the chest, you had the opportunity to cancel. You didn't.

Hello? Is this thing on? If YOU read MY POST you wouldn't be typing that because as I said in my post, THE PACK ANIMALS WERE IN THE CHEST so why would I have cancelled?

 

[Konge]

Hello? Is this thing on? If YOU read MY POST you wouldn't be typing that because as I said in my post, THE PAC KANIMALS WERE IN THE CHEST so why would I have cancelled?

Well, if they were in your chest, they wouldn't be running around after you transfered. Something doesn't add up. You see, the animals, are packed until you physically remove them from the crate when you Xfer. So, if there was a glitch, they probably would have been deleted, unless you had pack animals in your stable and got them confused.

 

[ronxj6]

if you do not say all follow me before you go you can sometimes leave them behind. happened to me before the xfer timer was in place and i was able to recover. I am sorry to hear about the bs u went through and the even worse GM Response.. there was a time an actual gm would come and support u.

Yes, I did in fact i did say all follow me. At least I can vent here and have someone respond. And maybe hold off on x sharding for a bit just in case something is messed up. I appriciate the replies, positive or negative. Thank you all What I ultimately should have done was put the stuff that mattered most to me in my bank and in MY back pack. But it's all water under the bridge now.

 

[ronxj6]

Well, if they were in your chest, they wouldn't be running around after you transfered. Something doesn't add up. You see, the animals, are packed until you physically remove them from the crate when you Xfer. So, if there was a glitch, they probably would have been deleted, unless you had pack animals in your stable and got them confused.

I haver cross sharded many a time in the past, I know how it works and always check what is in the packs. WHY is it so hard to beleive this actually happened? Is there some rule that says glitches like this can't possibly happen? I suppose x sharding is invulnerable to glitches? Wait, I know, I MEANT to leave all that stuff behind. I think I am having more fun talking about this than playing the game LOL

 

[Cal_Mythic]

Hello, ... check your PM

 

[Konge]

I haver cross sharded many a time in the past, I know how it works and always check what is in the packs. WHY is it so hard to beleive this actually happened? Is there some rule that says glitches like this can't possibly happen? I suppose x sharding is invulnerable to glitches? Wait, I know, I MEANT to leave all that stuff behind. I think I am having more fun talking about this than playing the game LOL

I've xsharded many times too, hence why I'm challenging this.

What's more likely? Someone forgets about their packies, forgets to check if they're in a crate and Xfers, get's angry about it and decides to blame a game mechanic and makes up things to guard their argument for the purpose of their own ego?

Or that the game magically popped your packies out of the transfer crate, something that's, if memory serves, has never been reported here before? And, completely goes against the nature of the transfer crate as you physically have to "unpack them."

Did you stop to think "Did I accidently click unpack pet before xfering?" Don't know if this is even possible.

 

[sablestorm]

That's funny cause i've been playing since 99 and I don't remember any time of multiple rollbacks daily.

Then you have a bad memory!

 

[NASA]

Then you have a bad memory!

always happened at christmas time. A not so nice gift from the wonderful folks at OSI/EA

 

[Smoot]

Never understood why people transfer with pack animals, because yes this can happen. Its pretty easy to just bring maybe 5 - 20 items that could easily be sold for 150mil total. or 1 even. but thats besides the point. The point is, UO makes EA hardly any money. The monthly subscriptions would have to significantly increase to pay a staff to actually fix all the bugs of this ancient game.

 

[Shelleybean]

I am sorry for your loss. We encounted a glitch once, when we unpacked an animal from the unpacking crate, it got stuck inside of a wall to our keep and backpack was inaccessible. We waited I think about 5 hours for a gm to show up and during that time, the packie moved to another inaccessible area of the keep. It was not fun but we didn't lose our stuff. I hope you just blow off some steam but not quit for good.

 

[ronxj6]

Hello, ... check your PM

What is PM?

 

[ronxj6]

I've xsharded many times too, hence why I'm challenging this.

What's more likely? Someone forgets about their packies, forgets to check if they're in a crate and Xfers, get's angry about it and decides to blame a game mechanic and makes up things to guard their argument for the purpose of their own ego?

Or that the game magically popped your packies out of the transfer crate, something that's, if memory serves, has never been reported here before? And, completely goes against the nature of the transfer crate as you physically have to "unpack them."

Did you stop to think "Did I accidently click unpack pet before xfering?" Don't know if this is even possible.

You're challenging this because that's your nature. I'd love to hear your thoughts if you did believe it. IF only to show that you can in fact think on both sides of the fence. Glitches go completely against the nature of code. YOU STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED. That's your choice. I was there, I know how diligent and thorough I am. I KNOW WHAT I DID AND DID NOT DO. I do not need you to believe me, Jesus Christ, Columbus, Galileo, Darwin and many others all had doubters too so who am I to think people can't doubt me as well. I dropped the rest of my items at various banks. Deleted characters and canceled subscription with months of game time left. I paid for something, real money, was not satisfied and had to live with it. Hell, they could have at least given me store credit like real stores do. It would cost them nothing to do so AND improved customer relations. But they chose to do nothing and lost revenue for 3 accounts, won't even mention a valued customer because it doesn't shop that EA values their customers. Oh well.

 

[ronxj6]

Never understood why people transfer with pack animals, because yes this can happen. Its pretty easy to just bring maybe 5 - 20 items that could easily be sold for 150mil total. or 1 even. but thats besides the point. The point is, UO makes EA hardly any money. The monthly subscriptions would have to significantly increase to pay a staff to actually fix all the bugs of this ancient game.

People do this because according to the item description for an xfer token, you can transfer pack animals holding items. So why wouldn't people do it? Hardly any Money? Maybe when compaired to guitar hero and games like. As far as having a staff, they could at least have GM's that do something. Plenty of sites have gm type staff that volunteer.

 

[ronxj6]

I am sorry for your loss. We encounted a glitch once, when we unpacked an animal from the unpacking crate, it got stuck inside of a wall to our keep and backpack was inaccessible. We waited I think about 5 hours for a gm to show up and during that time, the packie moved to another inaccessible area of the keep. It was not fun but we didn't lose our stuff. I hope you just blow off some steam but not quit for good.

5 hours is a long wait but I'm glad you got your items back. WOW that must have been frustrating. Thumbs up to you for sticking it out!

 

[sablestorm]

What is PM?

Private messages. I'm thinking Cal tried to contact you to help out with this situation. Upper right corner under your login name, you'll see a link to private messages here on Stratics.

 

[Evlar]

Hello, ... check your PM

What is PM?

He means check your PM - Private Messages, here on the forum, link on the top right of the page, below your forum user-name here.

If the executive producer of the game has sent you a message, that means he's willing to investigate the matter for you. Can't argue with that, right?

 

[Evlar]

Heh... beaten by a minute, with the same instructions sablestorm

 

[Konge]

You're challenging this because that's your nature. I'd love to hear your thoughts if you did believe it. IF only to show that you can in fact think on both sides of the fence. Glitches go completely against the nature of code. YOU STILL REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED. That's your choice. I was there, I know how diligent and thorough I am. I KNOW WHAT I DID AND DID NOT DO. I do not need you to believe me, Jesus Christ, Columbus, Galileo, Darwin and many others all had doubters too so who am I to think people can't doubt me as well. I dropped the rest of my items at various banks. Deleted characters and canceled subscription with months of game time left. I paid for something, real money, was not satisfied and had to live with it. Hell, they could have at least given me store credit like real stores do. It would cost them nothing to do so AND improved customer relations. But they chose to do nothing and lost revenue for 3 accounts, won't even mention a valued customer because it doesn't shop that EA values their customers. Oh well.

Apparently you don't lurk enough, I do go on both sides of the fence, the reason you don't see it often is because the majority of posts are generally whines about someone not being able to do something. If I agree with someone, I'll support the argument, if I do not, I'll challenge it.

You compare yourself to prophets, philosophers, and scientists when all you're doing is whining about a supposed glitch that you couldn't get over the loss of pixels? Yes, you're a real visionary, you lost something, then quit because you can't bare the thought of actually moving on, so you quit.

Good thing Darwin quit the moment his theory was challenged right? Oh... he didn't? Hm... doesn't seem like a good comparison then...

 

[ronxj6]

Private messages. I'm thinking Cal tried to contact you to help out with this situation. Upper right corner under your login name, you'll see a link to private messages here on Stratics.

thank you. I haven't really posted in the past.

 

[ronxj6]

Apparently you don't lurk enough, I do go on both sides of the fence, the reason you don't see it often is because the majority of posts are generally whines about someone not being able to do something. If I agree with someone, I'll support the argument, if I do not, I'll challenge it.

You compare yourself to prophets, philosophers, and scientists when all you're doing is whining about a supposed glitch that you couldn't get over the loss of pixels? Yes, you're a real visionary, you lost something, then quit because you can't bare the thought of actually moving on, so you quit.

Good thing Darwin quit the moment his theory was challenged right? Oh... he didn't? Hm... doesn't seem like a good comparison then...

That was quite a reach. I was just giving examples of those who believed in something when others doubted them. If those great men went through it, who am I, being a lesser man, to think I deserve better. It's not the loss of pixels, it's about paying for something in real life currency that didn't work correctly and not having any route for reimbursement like other places of commerce. Do I not have the right to WHINE about that? Items come and go, heck, I could just camp out a few IDOCs. The pixels are not the issue.