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Mysticism

Cetric

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Wow, i haven't worked it and hardly used it, but playing around with people on test... holy crap.

Once this will get heavily used, it will be a problem i think, but just my opinion, let me lay out some spells...

Hail storm...does a heavy amount of damage to a range of targets. if you have several people in a small area, and a few mystics run up, you can toast them all with this spell. Meteor swarm was scaled down based on the number of targets, and someone hoppin in to wither spam had to get close enough to touch them to be effective. This could be pretty rough in the future.


Spell plague -- im not positive on this but from what i saw, it seems like you can cast this on someone and just fireball/magic arrow/nether bolt someone causing tons of consistent damage. Not tooooo overpowered, but a very effective spell.

And this one was very interesting. 2 mages ran up and attacked a mystic on test. The mystic went into protection, and went into stone form. He then just spammed Cleansing Winds. Because of stone form the 2 mages could not curse or poison him, it was also very tough to try to sneak a paralyze in because he was already paralyzed 90% of the time trying to spam the long casting Cleansing Winds. we could not find a weakness with him until he ran out of mana, got out of stone form and tried to run, since he was still in protection chain para/poison took him down. Keep in mind this guy did not have a box, apples or cure pots. I don't know if we ever would have killed him if he did. If he had a box, the few paralyzes we snuck in inbetween the cleansing winds casting (which was about the only weakness we could go at) There may be another weakness to this, but i am not aware of it at this time.


Sleep - 7 seconds on a char that has 120 resist, that can be removed with apples, remove curse, etc. Apples have a 10sec timer, so someone spamming this spell can toast most templates.

Heal stone -- not too bad, just different, have to get used to people having this.



anyone else have some thoughts/flames on this?
 

Speedy Orkit

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Requires a lot to use though. You either have to give up resist, or use a mage weapon, which is easily disarmed and destroyed by fencer/archer templates.
 

WarUltima

Babbling Loonie
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Wow, i haven't worked it and hardly used it, but playing around with people on test... holy crap.

Once this will get heavily used, it will be a problem i think, but just my opinion, let me lay out some spells...

Hail storm...does a heavy amount of damage to a range of targets. if you have several people in a small area, and a few mystics run up, you can toast them all with this spell. Meteor swarm was scaled down based on the number of targets, and someone hoppin in to wither spam had to get close enough to touch them to be effective. This could be pretty rough in the future.
Hailstorm is the ONLY instant damage spell a mystic has other than Nether Cyclon which is a circle 8 ultra long casting spell that does the same damage. And also Hailstorm does same damage as flame strike you probably have a real weak cold resist and meteorstorm doesnt start scaling down until 4th target is in AoE so dont crump up together in a tiny square (it has smaller area effect than chain lighting and meteor swarm

Spell plague -- im not positive on this but from what i saw, it seems like you can cast this on someone and just fireball/magic arrow/nether bolt someone causing tons of consistent damage. Not tooooo overpowered, but a very effective spell.

Great spell now, makes damage a bit unpridictable... so dexer cant simply PvP like what they are used to... which is hit hit hit if whiff on any big spells then instantly offscreen rinse and repeat until RNG let you win

And this one was very interesting. 2 mages ran up and attacked a mystic on test. The mystic went into protection, and went into stone form. He then just spammed Cleansing Winds. Because of stone form the 2 mages could not curse or poison him, it was also very tough to try to sneak a paralyze in because he was already paralyzed 90% of the time trying to spam the long casting Cleansing Winds. we could not find a weakness with him until he ran out of mana, got out of stone form and tried to run, since he was still in protection chain para/poison took him down. Keep in mind this guy did not have a box, apples or cure pots. I don't know if we ever would have killed him if he did. If he had a box, the few paralyzes we snuck in inbetween the cleansing winds casting (which was about the only weakness we could go at) There may be another weakness to this, but i am not aware of it at this time.

You could have purge magic his protection or stone form off. Ward removal talismans also works. And if his suit didnt have 90/70/70/70/70 after he cast protection any dexer can slap him REALLY HARD (or you can throw "rocks" at him... stone form only makes up 10 resist

Sleep - 7 seconds on a char that has 120 resist, that can be removed with apples, remove curse, etc. Apples have a 10sec timer, so someone spamming this spell can toast most templates.

Hmm I think this spell is annoying but what you are saying has a BIG flaw in your argument. Sleep does sometimes work on people with 120 resist however they can instant apple, and after that with 120 resist you will have 12 full seconds of immunity against sleep spell... only people that will suffer is people without or with tiny little bitty resist who is still GIFTED with a 3 second immunity... which IMO is a good try to make resist skill more useful yet not too powerful as long as you have sufficient amount of resist skill (zero skill resist gimpy dexers shouldnt dominate pvp field with 1 single unlimited charge items)

Heal stone -- not too bad, just different, have to get used to people having this.

I like it, but I still carry gheals because it's very bad if your life power ran out and the stone breaks when you have 5 archers moving shotting you (one of them is probably trying to attempt the infamous drive by dismount shot gank) and you simple couldnt afford to stand still for 6 full seconds trying to cast another one.

anyone else have some thoughts/flames on this?
There reply in red.
 

Cetric

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There reply in red.
Ahh i gotcha, like i said i haven't fully tested it.


So with the stone form protection guy. Unless you are a dexer or another mystic, he is about untouchable?


Sleep thing, i didn't realize they put in the immunity (back to that not tested fully thing) But thanks on that one.

The hail storm thing i don't see as a huge problem, and no my cold resist wasn't low. i was more wondering if it would be a rediculous choke point setup. Say someone is doing a harrower or a base defense and has alot of people in a small area. Several mystics hail storm them.
 

Llewen

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In my opinion hail storm is a very powerful spell. I'm not saying it's op, but it is powerful.
 
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Yen Sid

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I have a Mystic/Mage/Weaver and I use hailstorm the most. It's one of the only spells left that they haven't changed for the worse. If it's changed I probably won't play that character much and its pretty much my favorite right now. So I will be very :sad4: if they do change it. I solo many things with this template so no more nerfs please!
 

KalVasTENKI

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I've never played a Mystic until now..


I'm never going back to just a necro..


BOO YAH PWNANGE :)
 
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Rumpelstiltskin

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There reply in red.
Ahh i gotcha, like i said i haven't fully tested it.


So with the stone form protection guy. Unless you are a dexer or another mystic, he is about untouchable?


Sleep thing, i didn't realize they put in the immunity (back to that not tested fully thing) But thanks on that one.

The hail storm thing i don't see as a huge problem, and no my cold resist wasn't low. i was more wondering if it would be a rediculous choke point setup. Say someone is doing a harrower or a base defense and has alot of people in a small area. Several mystics hail storm them.

that stone for was me, the only reason i went out of storm form was to dump, i did die and for some reason spells were hitting me very hard...

and yes u could of purged me out but who carries a war removal talismen, and if 2 dexxers were on my they still would not be able to do enough damage to break my stone form. unless you have 4 people attacking me your not gonna kill him maybe mana vamp but i still get mana fast enough to cast 1 or 2...
 

G.v.P

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Hehe Cetric welcome to SA ;P

Some of the better PvPers on my shard know Mysticism inside and out by now

I;m still learning it as you are, especially since Pub 65

Imbue changes should also make things,... interesting
 

Llewen

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Mysticism is clearly the fotm right now. I'm not in game to check it out right now, but can you put hail storm on a spell stone? Because if you can, that makes it even nastier.
 
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