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Vaelix
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Recently (LoL) Siege perilous has become a ghost town, Many of the preexisting players have begun quitting / deactivating their accounts.
The main reason behind this, Is the cost of Faction Gear (Silver Costs x5 Prodo Cost).
Now some players on Siege believe the removal of faction gear will bring more players back and encourage more PvP, However this is a Delusion. Items like the faction gears are required in the PvP that UO has evolved to, Without Faction Gear, Siege Perilous will become a Bushy / Dexxer Fest (With the remaining players that enjoy this type of pvp).
The Removal of Faction Gear on Siege perilous should not be even considered for the Following Reasons. (We do not have insurance, therefore we lose gear upon death)
1. Faction Arties (Or Arties in general) are required for Any Mage to Fight *Any* Dexxer, With the Imbalance of HCI and HLD versus DCI.
2. Faction Arties can be Farmed by almost *Any* PvP Template(Silver). Before faction Arties, players basically had to dedicate their 1 character (1 Per Account) To some form of Tamer due to the Impossibility of Farming with a Non Tamer / Sampire Type Character, Effectively forcing them to have 2 Accounts ( 1 PvPer, 1 PvMer ) In order to actually play the game. Some would argue, just buy the items with Gold. Even gold farming (In ammounts to be able to afford arties) Would need some Pure PvM template, once again forcing players to have 2 accounts.
3. Faction Items actually encourage PvP, they can be obtained at an Unlimited quanity, thus making it *Much* easier to Re-Equip upon Death. Opposed to No Longer Spawning Cursed Arties, Rare ToT Arties (If they decide to start the drops each year for X ammout of time) or ML Arties which can take anywhere from an Hour to a Week to get the artie you are looking for. (Example Totem of the Void) Which is lost Upon Death.
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What needs to be done is, Lower the Faction Costs of Arties to that of Production, for the following reasons.
1. We lose our Gear Upon Death, at the current cost its rather challenging to replace gear very quickly unless you have near unlimited time to farm.
2. Players that cannot spend Hours upon Hours farming, have begun running Stealth based templates, Which gives them the option of Smoke Bombing when in trouble, Effectively making them impossible to Kill without a Detector. However, when you run a Detector/Tracking Based Character ( I have ) Players which rely on stealth to Survive completely stop PvPing because the reality of losing their gear becomes more apparent. (Due to smoke bombs being near useless against a Intelligent Detector) This results in, Gank Based PvP with Stealth, or PvP Stopping for the day when a Detector comes out.
3. I have no problem Farming Silver, this is because i work strange hours and am able to Play at times when others are asleep, However, most players can only play on Peak hours (When most people are on) Therefore, farming silver without being disturbed is rather impossible, which *Greatly* lowers the speed at which you can Farm.
4. A Typical Mage Suit involves the following Artifacts, Faction : Orny, Crystal Ring, Crimson Cinture, Fey Leggings, Folded Steel Glasses, Rune Beetle Carapace. (Or Inquis Gloves instead of Crystal Ring) This is 85-90K Silver. I farm Silver in Blighted on a Mage with EVs, This is basically the *Fastest* way to farm silver. I average 12K Per Hour. Which means at basically the fastest silver farming rate, It takes me 6 Hours at 30 Mins to Farm a Proper Faction Mage Suit (6 Hours and 30 Mins of *Pure* Farming).
5. A Typical Dexxer Suit involves the following Artifacts, Faction : Storm Grips, Rune Beetle Carapace, Fey Leggings, Primer Tali, Spirit of the Totem, Crimson Cinture. (Possible Ring of Vile, Or Hunteres Headress) This is 55-65K Silver, Once again, At basically the Fastest Possible Farming rate, It is still around 5 Hours of *Pure* Farming.
6. Most players do not have the time to invest into farming (At the times i listed above) In order to PvP for a *Single* Death.
7. Alot of us just wanna PvP, The normal prices on production shards for Faction Gear allows this, Replacing a Proper Mage Suit goes from 6 hours and 30 Minutes of *Pure* Farming, to Average, 1 Hour and 20 Minutes, to 2 Hours and 30 Minutes. Thus encouraging more players to log on and PvP.
8. The Farming Times i Listed are *My* Rates.. 85K of Silver for 6 Hours and 30 Mins of Farming, is *Only* Possbile when left completely Alone, Which for most players, is never the case. Therefore it could take anywhere from 10 Hours to 5 Days to Farm up a Proper suit, Which can be lost within Seconds to a Simple mistake in PvP.
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With all the recent talk of Changes to the Faction System and all, Im really hoping this will be addressed in Some Sort of way.
Even a Responce with a reason why it wont be would be much appreciated. Though i do not expect a Dev response, Thank you in advance.
~ Skwis.
Edit : Typos.
The main reason behind this, Is the cost of Faction Gear (Silver Costs x5 Prodo Cost).
Now some players on Siege believe the removal of faction gear will bring more players back and encourage more PvP, However this is a Delusion. Items like the faction gears are required in the PvP that UO has evolved to, Without Faction Gear, Siege Perilous will become a Bushy / Dexxer Fest (With the remaining players that enjoy this type of pvp).
The Removal of Faction Gear on Siege perilous should not be even considered for the Following Reasons. (We do not have insurance, therefore we lose gear upon death)
1. Faction Arties (Or Arties in general) are required for Any Mage to Fight *Any* Dexxer, With the Imbalance of HCI and HLD versus DCI.
2. Faction Arties can be Farmed by almost *Any* PvP Template(Silver). Before faction Arties, players basically had to dedicate their 1 character (1 Per Account) To some form of Tamer due to the Impossibility of Farming with a Non Tamer / Sampire Type Character, Effectively forcing them to have 2 Accounts ( 1 PvPer, 1 PvMer ) In order to actually play the game. Some would argue, just buy the items with Gold. Even gold farming (In ammounts to be able to afford arties) Would need some Pure PvM template, once again forcing players to have 2 accounts.
3. Faction Items actually encourage PvP, they can be obtained at an Unlimited quanity, thus making it *Much* easier to Re-Equip upon Death. Opposed to No Longer Spawning Cursed Arties, Rare ToT Arties (If they decide to start the drops each year for X ammout of time) or ML Arties which can take anywhere from an Hour to a Week to get the artie you are looking for. (Example Totem of the Void) Which is lost Upon Death.
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What needs to be done is, Lower the Faction Costs of Arties to that of Production, for the following reasons.
1. We lose our Gear Upon Death, at the current cost its rather challenging to replace gear very quickly unless you have near unlimited time to farm.
2. Players that cannot spend Hours upon Hours farming, have begun running Stealth based templates, Which gives them the option of Smoke Bombing when in trouble, Effectively making them impossible to Kill without a Detector. However, when you run a Detector/Tracking Based Character ( I have ) Players which rely on stealth to Survive completely stop PvPing because the reality of losing their gear becomes more apparent. (Due to smoke bombs being near useless against a Intelligent Detector) This results in, Gank Based PvP with Stealth, or PvP Stopping for the day when a Detector comes out.
3. I have no problem Farming Silver, this is because i work strange hours and am able to Play at times when others are asleep, However, most players can only play on Peak hours (When most people are on) Therefore, farming silver without being disturbed is rather impossible, which *Greatly* lowers the speed at which you can Farm.
4. A Typical Mage Suit involves the following Artifacts, Faction : Orny, Crystal Ring, Crimson Cinture, Fey Leggings, Folded Steel Glasses, Rune Beetle Carapace. (Or Inquis Gloves instead of Crystal Ring) This is 85-90K Silver. I farm Silver in Blighted on a Mage with EVs, This is basically the *Fastest* way to farm silver. I average 12K Per Hour. Which means at basically the fastest silver farming rate, It takes me 6 Hours at 30 Mins to Farm a Proper Faction Mage Suit (6 Hours and 30 Mins of *Pure* Farming).
5. A Typical Dexxer Suit involves the following Artifacts, Faction : Storm Grips, Rune Beetle Carapace, Fey Leggings, Primer Tali, Spirit of the Totem, Crimson Cinture. (Possible Ring of Vile, Or Hunteres Headress) This is 55-65K Silver, Once again, At basically the Fastest Possible Farming rate, It is still around 5 Hours of *Pure* Farming.
6. Most players do not have the time to invest into farming (At the times i listed above) In order to PvP for a *Single* Death.
7. Alot of us just wanna PvP, The normal prices on production shards for Faction Gear allows this, Replacing a Proper Mage Suit goes from 6 hours and 30 Minutes of *Pure* Farming, to Average, 1 Hour and 20 Minutes, to 2 Hours and 30 Minutes. Thus encouraging more players to log on and PvP.
8. The Farming Times i Listed are *My* Rates.. 85K of Silver for 6 Hours and 30 Mins of Farming, is *Only* Possbile when left completely Alone, Which for most players, is never the case. Therefore it could take anywhere from 10 Hours to 5 Days to Farm up a Proper suit, Which can be lost within Seconds to a Simple mistake in PvP.
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With all the recent talk of Changes to the Faction System and all, Im really hoping this will be addressed in Some Sort of way.
Even a Responce with a reason why it wont be would be much appreciated. Though i do not expect a Dev response, Thank you in advance.
~ Skwis.
Edit : Typos.
