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Why I find EM Events not as appealing as 24/7 Events...

LordDrago

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Note to Popps. EM's are people too, and believe it or not, some of them actually have......lives. After working a 10 hour shift at the office/plant/etc., getting caught in rush hour traffic, eating a meal, tucking the kids in bed....


Then they log in to provide the UO community a service...
They are not paid......
For every kudos they get, they get bashed x30.....

Sometimes, the EM events fit into larger events, sometimes they don't. A lot probably depends on what is going on, what the EM's can actually do (game resource wise), and how much time they can give themselves to providing their service. Remember, for every minute they spend EMing, they are not playing on their normal shards.

Stop EM bashing. I dare say that most if not all EM's are doing a good job.
And I have participated in only a couple of EM events, and have recieved only a stealth cloak that everyone got.

24/7 events? Love them. Especially story arc ones like invasions, etc. Lots of fun, community, etc. But these are more in the realm of the developers and not the EM's. As it is, I suspect we will be getting something along this line for the rebuilding of magincia shortly. :)
Maybe if they have all the stress you listed above they should not have applied for the EM job rolleyes:
Did you apply to be an EM? If not why not? If you did, I guess the powers that be decided that you were not as good a fit for the job as someone else.

I am just pointing out that EMs were selected to shards where they do not play. Often, these shards are not in their own time zones as far as player base goes, so this in itself may limit the amount of time they can be available for an event. That, coupled with real life may limit the ability of EMs to hold large scale events at all times of day for all players.
 

LordDrago

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popps;1655173 So now one should only accept whatever comes and whether one likes it or not ? Besides said:
Popps, you voice your dissent about EVERYTHING!!!!!!

In one thread you are upset that people are getting rare items from EM events that they sell for millions of gold because it "unbalances PvP". Next thread you think it is a good idea to sell half priced transfer tokens to make it easier for people to sell rares for millions of gold on the Pacific shard.

You are so dissenting you can't even keep your arguments straight.

:) :) :) Petra, I know that I can ignore Popps, but he is like an accident on the opposite lanes of the Garden State Parkway. I know I shouldn't, but I can't help myself from slowing down and rubbernecking along all of my fellow commuters.
 

jack flash uk

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So what you are saying Popps is you want, say the EUROPEAN SHARD and EUROPEAN PEOPLE on EUOPREAN TIMELINES to be messad aroudn so AMERICANS can have some tiems

pardon me but i thought there were AMERICAN SERVERS???


It is very sad that you think this way

UO is about community not geographic boundaries I live on the west coast of Canada and play on Drachenfels and have so since 1998 when DF started I did it because I enjoy the people here, the differences that make us closer than we thought.

I do wish that the EM's moved some of their more involved events to the weekends. And try to make the event run longer than a few hours.
Dont feel sad for me

EM events run at prime time on their shards, ie Europa 20.00/22.00 give or a bit, this is prime time for EUROPA if you think its reasonable to have EM events run at 0200 so YOU can play, then good luck with that

the DEV events run for much longer for the multi cultural society

you chose to play Drac and live in Canada, YOU must adapt

the only other way to facilitate your life is to run EM event for longer, again, good luck with that

like i said, the needs of the many..................
 

hawkeye_pike

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I don't think time zones should be an issue. Those people who have an issue with this still can play on a shard in their time zone.

I think both event types have their pros and cons, and there always should be both types of events:

EM Events:
Those mostly are invasion-type events of differing quality. They are important to the game, as they are the key factor of UO history and the story arc. (All of us remember the Destruction of the Blackrock Detector in 2008, or the Trinsic Invasion in 2000 as the most memorable events of this type.)
Unfortunately, the tools given to EMs seem to be very limited, which leads to predictable events like "Go there and kill everything". Real invasions, where players can prepare to protect their cities against hordes of monsters approaching (and lead by invisible EMs/GMs) haven't happened for a long time.​

24/7 Events (I'd rather call them quests):
The object is to solve riddles, independent from other players or a specific schedule. Monster killing can be a part of it, but it isn't the main part. I remember the event of Leoric Gathenwale's Demise back in 2008 as one of the most elaborate and fun quests ever being offered to the UO community.
Those events mostly depend on the creativity of the people who implement it. They can be a very great addition to UO, especially for players who cannot participate in scheduled events due to RL issues.​
 
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Tukaram

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The EM events seem to be more along the lines of meet at a certain time, go kill this or that. Which is fine, I just don't generally keep up enough to know when or where.

The 24/7 events, like the Orc invasion of Yew, the Solen invasion of everywhere, are more fun for me. You can sign on when it is convenient for you and fight as long as you wish. This fits my play schedule, and playstyle better.

BOTH EM and 24/7 events are great! I would love to see more of both. I see nothing wrong with EM events but I would like to petition for more 24/7's too.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Prime Time is by definition when the largest audience will be available. That's why it's "prime".
This is true in most cases, however Pacific (and it may be unique in this) is mostly populated with more players NOT in the Pacific time zone than in. This is due to the fact that players in the Mountain and Central time zones, at least as far as Texas, mostly play on Pacific. So an event held at 8pm Pacific time (which is a very common start time) is at 9:00 or 10:00 for the majority of players. This isn't taken into account by the EM(s) of the shard, so it can be difficult for most of the shard's players to attend. The only other shard with a decent ping as an option is Lake Austin for these people, and LA is a very small population server, which most don't care for.
 
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wrekognize

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Hmmmm, autopilot ?

Interesting.
Yes, autopilot. Meaning, no live content from the developers. How many updates have we had this year?

They are letting long time players run events that to my experience are not fun at all. I certainly do not consider invasions in Luna every other night an event. I spent one night at an "event" touring a player run town for 2 hours, waiting for something to happen, and it never did.

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Nails

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Agree!!! I prefer the 24/7 ones so i can participate. I miss 90% of the smaller ones and cannot be in game a absurd amount of time hoping to catch the EM schedule.
 
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A Rev

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I live in the UK play US servers.

Dont get to do all the events but guess what popps...

I ENJOY the ones i do!!!

Maybe you should spend less time posting about what you dislike and start playing what you do!
 

SchezwanBeefy

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I love EM events. I used to go to any that I could that didn't conflict with my school schedule and before that, I was in Highschool and I would beg my parents for extra computer time so I could attend. I didn't attend for the items but for the fun of it all, because some of them were a lot of fun. Since I have moved, I have attended two or three.
I lived in Oregon my entire life and chose to play on Pac because when I got the booklet back in Renaissance time, it told you where servers were located. I've been playing this shard for ten years.
I've now moved to S. Korea and the time difference depending on DST is 15 or 16 hours.
This means events are usually running when I'm at work or sleeping.
I would really like there to be some events that I could participate in, and when the EM run scavenger hunt on Pac was occurring last week, I did as much as I could.
While I would really love to see EM events ran at a time when I could play, I can't really expect it unfortunately. =[ But for those of you yelling about "maybe you should pick another server", that is a very stupid thing to suggest when a player has friends and history in one, and it's also why many players have left the game: you guys are all about the me and not the us. There's a lot of soldiers who play this game abroad, a lot of Americans who are teaching or working or studying abroad, and we would all like to see some of the love too not just for items but to have some UO fun and spice things up.
 

popps

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EM events run at prime time on their shards, ie Europa 20.00/22.00 give or a bit, this is prime time for EUROPA if you think its reasonable to have EM events run at 0200 so YOU can play, then good luck with that

the DEV events run for much longer for the multi cultural society

you chose to play Drac and live in Canada, YOU must adapt

Who ever said "only" ??

But it would be rather different (and waaaaay better) if it was an "also".........

That is, rather than having on a given shard EM Events run "only" at that given shard's prime time, have EM Events run on that shard "also" at non prime time for that given shard time zone but that suit other time zones for players also playing that shard but from different time zones.

Why ?

To protect the multi cultural and multi national composition of players on that shard for the better sake of the entire game.
 

popps

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I don't think time zones should be an issue. Those people who have an issue with this still can play on a shard in their time zone.

Did you read the starting post of this thread ?

THAT, is precisely the concern being discussed here........

The concern that eventually, due to the way EM Events are run on shards, and when, eventually players from different times zones still playing that given shard will move out of that shard, because of that issue and transfer to another shard in their time zone.

The concern is that, in the long run, this will cause all shards to shrink to a population of players in that particular time zone thus, killing the multi-cultural and multi-national diversity of players on any given shard which is the beauty and one of the strengths of Ultima Online, IMHO.

I do not know others but personally, being able to meet players from other cultures and other countries across the world on a shard I play I find it a treasure to be cherished and not dismantled because the EM Events program does not consider this particular aspect,
 

Barry Gibb

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The concern is that, in the long run, this will cause all shards to shrink to a population of players in that particular time zone thus, killing the multi-cultural and multi-national diversity of players on any given shard ...
Time Zones do not equate to singlular cultural beliefs, nor do they suggest single nationality. I don't know where you came up with this silly notion, and I don't care to know where or why. The cultures in my home state are many and the nationalities that are represented are many, and this is all in one, single, state of the union.

I can attend any event in UO (EM or otherwise) that I am able to attend IF I choose to. There is no reason you cannot do the same. Yes, I have missed some events that sounded enjoyable, but "Oh Well.... there is always next time".

*mutters, and I was trying my hardest to stay out of this garbage*

Stayin Alive,

BG
 

Lexfixr

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Dont feel sad for me

EM events run at prime time on their shards, ie Europa 20.00/22.00 give or a bit, this is prime time for EUROPA if you think its reasonable to have EM events run at 0200 so YOU can play, then good luck with that

the DEV events run for much longer for the multi cultural society

you chose to play Drac and live in Canada, YOU must adapt

the only other way to facilitate your life is to run EM event for longer, again, good luck with that

like i said, the needs of the many..................
Clearly you have a problem with the english language or you cant read--did I say to change the times no I mearly said it would be nice if the more involved events happened on weekends and run a bit longer-a bit by definition is a small portion. Dont distort my comments.

By playing drac for the past 11 1/2 years I have learned to adapt and my European friends can attest to that

time to chill
 

Aurelius

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The concern that eventually, due to the way EM Events are run on shards, and when, eventually players from different times zones still playing that given shard will move out of that shard, because of that issue and transfer to another shard in their time zone.
Only true if your entire reason for playing is attending EM events.

I do not know others but personally, being able to meet players from other cultures and other countries across the world on a shard I play I find it a treasure to be cherished and not dismantled because the EM Events program does not consider this particular aspect,
You could meet them before EM events began. You can meet them when EM events are not running. You can meet them when EM events are running. Nothing you enjoy or value is being 'dismantled' unless YOU choose to let it be dismantled.
 
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