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Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens ?

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popps

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Soon, this coming April, there will be the Pacific rares' Festival with many players transferring from other servers whether they go there for selling, buying or just out of curiosity.

Since the Event is, at least as I see it, a good thing for Ultima online because it gets the game going, gets things for players to do and helps players' intertest in the game I was wondering, perhaps EA should offer, for a limited time like 15 days prior to the Event a special offer on transfer tokens at a special price of, say, 5 dollars per token ?

Of course, in order to avoid this special pricing affect too much shards' economy the limited time offer should also be limited to max 2 tokens per account (for a round trip) and trial accounts would not qualify.

Not sure if it is possible, but another possibility could even be an easter gift of a transfer token which ONLY works between the shard it has been given to and the PACIFIC shard. I would not work between any other 2 shards.

I am just saying, that helping attendance to the Pacific Rares Festival I see it as a good thing for the game and, if EA can help it out with players going to Pacific (and come back afterwards) without disrupting all other servers economies well, I think it would be good for UO.

Anyways, comments ?
 

Tina Small

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Hasn't EA already done enough to facilitate this "rares festival" by adding so many rares and semi-rares and an item-focused EM program to the game in the last couple of years? Do they really need to do one more thing to drive home the fact that they're spending most of the game's budget on catering to the collectors in the game?
 

Aran

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

EA should do nothing special for any specific server.
 

Santa Claus

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Why should they go through the effort. Either people will buy the tokens or already have them for the festival anyway.
 
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agpga

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

and the nay sayers come out in full force to start the comments in this thread.
I think it is a great idea to maybe pump some life into UO.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

No. The people that are going to attend can more than afford the transfer tokens if they feel the need to buy something and transfer it to another shard. Most other players aren't interested, and for those that are, they can always create a character on Pacific and attend without having to transfer. It's not like most of the rares will be affordable to the majority of the playerbase. Even if one of them does have the gold to buy something, and does, they can always piggyback with someone else for a nominal fee.
 

Kellgory

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Problem is that if they start doing something special for one group or event, then everyone would expect something special to be done for their group or event. If they wanted to give out transfer tokens they could give them out as anniversary gifts like they did about 5 years ago. I had just started and they passed out one gift per account and it was based of account age as to what you got. I received something that wasn't all that great since my account was only a year old, but several guildmates that had played since the beginning received a transfer token. Don't remember what all else was given.
 

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

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Xfer tokens should have never let people remove items from a server in the first place.

I don't mind rares or rares collectors, however between the dupe bugs the xfer service has been plagued with and the removal of shard-based history, allowing playeres to xfer items has been a HUGE mistake.

But unfortunately, that "Pandora's Box" has already been opened and the evils within let out.

However, I don't see any reason to facilitate it further via any kind of "special".
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

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Xfer tokens should have never let people remove items from a server in the first place.

I agree with you, I also do not like that some shards can be looted clean of items, rares and all that and they are moved to other shards but what can we do now ?

Nothing, I imagine.......that's too late. Only an across servers items wipe and the blockage of items' transfers across shards could address this but how much feasible would it be, really ??

So, we need to live now with what we have.

I just thought that since players seem to enjoy Events like the Rares' Festival in Pacific then it could have been nice to make transfers of players from other shards to Pacific possible to a wider number of players.

Not all rares have a price tag of hundreds of millions. There may be rares selling at the Event more affordably for players.

Yet, those players not playing Pacific would not have even a few millions available there to buy a less expensive rare but which they would have perhaps liked to buy.

And, it would just make no sense to burn 2 transfer tokens (round trip) worth in total anywhere in excess of some 36+ millions just to buy a rare worth, say, 10 millions.

Instead. if the Devs with the occasion of the Easter gifts made it possible for players to receive a couple of free tokens that can only work between the shard they have been given on and the Pacific shard, then a lot more players might be willing to attend the Pacific festival in April to buy also lower end rares.....
 

JC the Builder

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

People will buy up the tokens even if they don't plan on using them for the festival. I don't think EA should get involved here.

Tokens are available for gold if you wish to avoid paying cash for them.
 
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AesSedai

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

- No.

If you want transfer tokens to be cheaper then I might stand behind that request.
But there are several reasons why I would not stand behind this request - and some of those have already been mentioned.
 

puni666

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

People really pay to go to a shard and buy crap then pay to come back to their original server? And then lock the crap they bought down on their floors? Something doesn't seem right about this pixel obsession...
 

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

No. The people that are going to attend can more than afford the transfer tokens if they feel the need to buy something and transfer it to another shard
This.
 

Guido_LS

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Instead. if the Devs with the occasion of the Easter gifts made it possible for players to receive a couple of free tokens that can only work between the shard they have been given on and the Pacific shard, then a lot more players might be willing to attend the Pacific festival in April to buy also lower end rares.....
Won't work - you add more people, the price goes up, defeating the purpose.

And free char x-fers shouldn't happen anyway... as has been previously stated, if you can afford to buy the items there, you can afford to buy the token.
 
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miss uo

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

I am just saying, that helping attendance to the Pacific Rares Festival I see it as a good thing for the game and, if EA can help it out with players going to Pacific (and come back afterwards) without disrupting all other servers economies well, I think it would be good for UO.
Anyways, comments ?
Other shards have held Rares Festivals without this consideration.
 

PASmountaindew

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

i vote no. There should be no special prices on the transfer tokens. If a player has 100's of million to even billions of gold then they can certainly afford the 20 mill to buy one from a broker or another player.
 

the 4th man

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Tell ya what Popps, alot of could carelss about collecting items. There's more to Uo that materialism, if you can buy that (no pun intended)

Also, why cater to Pacific? Because they're pushing a pixel fest? Let's hope they cater to all the shards this way.

Calling people naysayers,"agpga", yeah, that's pretty mature......Popps asked for comments, did he not??

I say, if EA was smart, they'd actually raise the price of the tokens. Hell, use it for the poor sap who has to be stuck dealing with this.

Lastly, I agree, transfer tokens should not be used to transport a pile of junk from one shard to another. All that does is feed the weakness so many have in UO.....

Shouldn't this post be under the shards forum anyways?? Yeah, it's for all who want to go, but it relates more to Pacific.

later
 

Assia Penryn

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Just to clear up some misconceptions about the rares festival. Pacific was picked to host the next festival in April. The festival changes shard location usually each time. Time before this one was Great Lakes. If you have any questions about the festival, folks in this forum I'm sure would be happy to answer them.

Link to Stratics Rares Forum:
http://vboards.stratics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43

That being said, I'm one of those who will be attending the festival and I have a vendor reserved for it as well. I'm coming from Atlantic and I don't think OP's original suggestion is a good one. Most of us who travel from other shards to go to the festivals are fine with paying the gold required for our transfer tokens. Unless you're going to sell/buy, there is no need for a transfer token. Anyone can make a character on Pacific and check it out. I'd much rather see EA get its full money for the transfer tokens and keep UO running than see a small discount which probably wouldn't be passed to those in-game.
 

hungry4knowhow

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

I attend the rares festivals alot, and also think this is a bad idea.

For one you will have people (me) who will buy TONS of tokens and keep them for once the sale is over. The power a transfer token gives you to access any shard (bar 2) it should cost more than 20.00 anyway.
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Just to clear up some misconceptions about the rares festival. Pacific was picked to host the next festival in April. The festival changes shard location usually each time. Time before this one was Great Lakes. If you have any questions about the festival, folks in this forum I'm sure would be happy to answer them.

Link to Stratics Rares Forum:
http://vboards.stratics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=43

That being said, I'm one of those who will be attending the festival and I have a vendor reserved for it as well. I'm coming from Atlantic and I don't think OP's original suggestion is a good one. Most of us who travel from other shards to go to the festivals are fine with paying the gold required for our transfer tokens. Unless you're going to sell/buy, there is no need for a transfer token. Anyone can make a character on Pacific and check it out. I'd much rather see EA get its full money for the transfer tokens and keep UO running than see a small discount which probably wouldn't be passed to those in-game.


Well, I am also all for the game to keep going......

My concern, was not for the uber rich players who can easily afford a couple of transfer tokens. but more for ordinary players with limited funds who would still like to attend the Festival and, perhaps, buy a rare or two which they can afford.

Sure, those wanting to check the Festival out for curiosity can make a character on Pacific and go there to see what it is all about.

But what about those wanting to buy anything there which is not worth the cost of 2 transfer tokens for a round trip ?

When buying a 100+ millions rare then spending 38+ millions for a couple of tokens for a round trip may sound just OK, but when buying a lower end rare priced, say, at 10 or 20 millions could not necessarily justify spending the 38+ millions needed for 2 tokens for a round trip......

This means, that players will need to entrust fellow shard players going to transfer to the Festival giving their gold to them to bring it over to Pacific so that they can spend it on some more affordable rares.

But, as with all things which involve entrusting others, this can have unexpected outcomes....

How about, if not letting players have transfer tokens more affordably, allow players to transfer gold from any shard to Pacific for a limited amount, say up to a maximum of 30 millions and only for the duration of the Festival ?

It could work with a NPC set up in all of the shard, accepting the gold on any of the other shard and giving out a code to the player handing out the gold.

Then, the Player would create a new character on Pacific, turn the code in and get the gold in the bank box.

At that point, the player would go to the Festival, and if they bought some lower end rare, they could go to a NPC on Pacific, turn the item(s) in and receive a code for them.
They then log onto their home shard and using that code they claim the item(s) back.

I am just trying to think of ways to make it possible for less wealthy players to still attend the Festival and perhaps buy something (which means increasing the Festival's success, I would guess...) without having to entrust others, necessarily.
 

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Well, I am also all for the game to keep going......

My concern, was not for the uber rich players who can easily afford a couple of transfer tokens. but more for ordinary players with limited funds who would still like to attend the Festival and, perhaps, buy a rare or two which they can afford.

Sure, those wanting to check the Festival out for curiosity can make a character on Pacific and go there to see what it is all about.

But what about those wanting to buy anything there which is not worth the cost of 2 transfer tokens for a round trip ?

When buying a 100+ millions rare then spending 38+ millions for a couple of tokens for a round trip may sound just OK, but when buying a lower end rare priced, say, at 10 or 20 millions could not necessarily justify spending the 38+ millions needed for 2 tokens for a round trip......

This means, that players will need to entrust fellow shard players going to transfer to the Festival giving their gold to them to bring it over to Pacific so that they can spend it on some more affordable rares.

But, as with all things which involve entrusting others, this can have unexpected outcomes....

How about, if not letting players have transfer tokens more affordably, allow players to transfer gold from any shard to Pacific for a limited amount, say up to a maximum of 30 millions and only for the duration of the Festival ?

It could work with a NPC set up in all of the shard, accepting the gold on any of the other shard and giving out a code to the player handing out the gold.

Then, the Player would create a new character on Pacific, turn the code in and get the gold in the bank box.

At that point, the player would go to the Festival, and if they bought some lower end rare, they could go to a NPC on Pacific, turn the item(s) in and receive a code for them.
They then log onto their home shard and using that code they claim the item(s) back.

I am just trying to think of ways to make it possible for less wealthy players to still attend the Festival and perhaps buy something (which means increasing the Festival's success, I would guess...) without having to entrust others, necessarily.
Did you know that the best way to move items from one shard or another is through your own community? /end thread
 

weins201

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Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, or

use a broker. If all you want is a 10 - 20 mil item then transferring is not worth it. This is like telling southerbees that they need to buy your plane ticket and put you up in a holtel if you want to get a nick nack from one of their auctions.

I am sorry but i have to emphatically say NO to freee transferres.
:gun:
 

popps

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Re: Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, o

use a broker. If all you want is a 10 - 20 mil item then transferring is not worth it. This is like telling southerbees that they need to buy your plane ticket and put you up in a holtel if you want to get a nick nack from one of their auctions.

I am sorry but i have to emphatically say NO to freee transferres.
:gun:


I am sorry, but I disagree. I do not see why the game should be more enjoyable (that is more options like, for example, attending the rares Festival in Pacific) only for those players who are wealthier and have more funds to spend........

I can possibly accept the concept that those with more funds can buy the most expensive items but outright cutting out players from attending (i.e. buy lower end rares not worth the expense of 2 tokens for a round trip) just on the basis of their reduced in game wealth, I cannot see it as right.

Ways for these players to also be able to attend should be somehow provided and this, without necessarily having to entrust their gold/items onto other players thus trying their luck out.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Re: Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, o

This thread is a joke. Now Miss Lohan is responding to a post with a response that has nothing to do with what the post said.

Yep, nothin' but a joke.

Anything to start, or continue, an argument I guess.
 

popps

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Re: Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, o

This thread is a joke. Now Miss Lohan is responding to a post with a response that has nothing to do with what the post said.

Yep, nothin' but a joke.

Anything to start, or continue, an argument I guess.


Well, perhaps I misunderstood, but what I got was that unless one had big business to do at the rares Festival (that is have large wealth to spend or a high number of items to sell...), they had no place of being at the Festival if coming from shards outside of Pacific and willing to spend only limited amounts of gold (which would not justify the cost of 2 transfer tokens).....

I was trying to voice my disagreement to that as I think that players should just alike enjoy the Festival on some other shard than theirs, regardless whether they had large or small wealth and without having to entrust others be them fellow players or brokers.

That is, the game should have tools that could be used so that players would not be forced, in situations like this, to have to entrust anyone else with their in game gold or items.

That's my opinion.
 

Tomas_Bryce

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Dear god, why are you always asking for things from EA? If you can't afford it then make friends and split costs. Thats what everyone else does.
 

Aran

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

I bet popps would literally explode if he ever tried to do something in real life and realized that the haves are always a thousand steps ahead of the have nots, and that's precisely how it should be.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Re: Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, o

Well, perhaps I misunderstood, but what I got was
What part of :
use a broker.
didn't you get? That says nothing about "big business" or anyone "having no place at".

Like I said, nothing but a joke and yet another excuse to argue about something just for the sake of arguing.

What's next in the argument queue?
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Dear god, why are you always asking for things from EA? If you can't afford it then make friends and split costs. Thats what everyone else does.


That is having to entrust others.......

Why is it that the game has to force a player to entrust items of a certain value or gold in a good amount onto other players rather than offering tools that help all players to solve their problems on their own thus not having to entrust and bother others ?
 

popps

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Re: Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, o

What part of : didn't you get?


Since when brokers are a "game feature" ??

My argument tries looking at game provided ways to solve these types of problems.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

That is having to entrust others.......

Why is it that the game has to force a player to entrust items of a certain value or gold in a good amount onto other players rather than offering tools that help all players to solve their problems on their own thus not having to entrust and bother others ?
Why are you so antisocial in an MMO? Dealing with others is part of the game. If you can't handle that, then you need to be playing console games.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Re: Cowboy beat me too it, rares traders will transfer items alot of times for you, o

Since when brokers are a "game feature" ??

My argument tries looking at game provided ways to solve these types of problems.
You're the one with a problem. No one else has one.
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Why are you so antisocial in an MMO? Dealing with others is part of the game. If you can't handle that, then you need to be playing console games.


Why did we get, over the years, a whole lot of game security things provided by the various developing teams then ?

Because games have all kinds of players, including scammers........

This is not about being social or anti social, this is about providing to players secure ways to play the game without necessarily having to entrust others.

One can possibly be very social and play along with others but not want to hand out gold or items to others. Ain't this a legitimate concern if I may ask ?

Or now players cannot even be concerned about their in game belongings any longer because asking for safer, official ways to solve problems in the game is too much to ask ?

Has the game come down to this ?
 

Dermott of LS

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

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The people who can afford to buy things at a Rares Festival can afford to purchase via gold or cash the Xfer tokens needed.

The people who can't afford to buy the Xfer tokens most likely can't afford to buy anything they can't already get on their own shards anyway and if they want to attend can simply create a character to do so.

Giving out free Xfer tokens will only cause the gold and items sellers to snatch MANY MANY MANY of these up and never buy them again completely negating the income stream of the Xfer tokens to begin with.

/end thread
 

Restroom Cowboy

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

That is having to entrust others.......

Why is it that the game has to force a player to entrust items of a certain value or gold in a good amount onto other players rather than offering tools that help all players to solve their problems on their own thus not having to entrust and bother others ?
you are in an MMORPG...thats M M O R P G. this means that other people DO actually play in the same sandbox...its frigging communal. of course you already know that...since you are speaking on a communal board. If you were really looking for an answer, you would listen instead of arguing.
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Giving out free Xfer tokens will only cause the gold and items sellers to snatch MANY MANY MANY of these up and never buy them again completely negating the income stream of the Xfer tokens to begin with.



And so what ?

Besides the fact that it would be a liimited time offer which could even be further restriced to work only between Pacific and the shard where the token is created, not between any other 2 shards, I hope that the game's existance does not depend on the sale of transfer tokens but more on players monthly subscriptions.......

So what would benefit the game more ?
Pleasing a wide variety of players who could get more enjoyment from the game from being able to, perhaps, attend also the Pacific rares event for a change or keep things as they are not to disrupt (temporarily and with limitations, mind you) whatever the current status quo might be with Transfer tokens ?
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

you are in an MMORPG...thats M M O R P G. this means that other people DO actually play in the same sandbox...its frigging communal. of course you already know that...since you are speaking on a communal board. If you were really looking for an answer, you would listen instead of arguing.


I am trying to explain that security and safety, to my opinion, has NOTHING to do with being or not social and playing a MMORPG.

If it did, then how come over the years we have seen for the game a WHOLE LOT of design changes to increase players' security in the game from house entrance, to secure chests to trade windows and so forth ?
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Please, enlighten us to what you are trying to get at...seriously. Your above statement has nothing to do with transfer tokens or the topic your presented us with.


Uhu ???

The thread is about a convenient way to transfer to Pacific for the occasion of the Rares' Festival also for those players who may not have such a large dealing to do that would make it meaningfull to burn 2 transfer tokens for a round trip.

Now, to this I was argued that players who deal in rares have plenty gold, usually, and so they can well afford tokens.

To which I replied saying that not all players deal in rares by the hundred of millions and there are also players who might be interested in attending the Festival to purchase more reasonable rares, say in the 10-20 millions price range. A price range which does not really make it worth to burn 2 transfer tokens for....

Allowing all of these players from shards other than Pacific to attend would help the Festival be better attended and more succesfull.

To this I was told to just use other players or brokers to transfer the money to a newly created character on Pacific and, again use other players of brokers to transfer the items back to one's own shard.

To which I argued that this was entrusting others which not necessarily players might be willing to do nor feel that they had to in order to better enjoy the game.

Then I was remember this is a multi player game which means having to deal with others.

So, I pointed out that playing security had nothing to do with being social or anti social. One could well enjoy playing the game with others but still not want to entrust one's own game belongings to anyone else.

And, in support to this, I remebered that over the years several developing teams strenghtened the players' security in many ways with better housing access, secure containers or trade windows and so forth.

Showing to me, that playing with others and having safe and secure playing in the game are 2 total different things and do not conflict with each other at all.

If it did, then how come over the years we have seen for the game a WHOLE LOT of design changes to increase players' security in the game from house entrance, to secure chests to trade windows and so forth ?

Therefore, going back to your quoted question, as I see it, it has all to do with the topic being discussed because the fact that this is a multi player game does not mean that players should be open to being scammed because they have no featured game alternatives so to leave them with the only alternative to have to entrust others.
 
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Deb

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

All I know is...that Popps seems to come out of wherever it is he hides
once in awhile to start these meaningless threads. Oh, and I vote no
also..especially since these festivals change shards. Maybe one will be
held on Napa.
 

Dermott of LS

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

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a convenient way to transfer to Pacific for the occasion of the Rares' Festival

Here you go in picture format:

 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Here you go in picture format:


WOW,

That gives a WHOPPING 1,000 gps to buy surely some nice rares at the festival......

Creating a new character only can help those who want to see what it is like out of curiosity but would be of NO HELP whateosver to those who actually want to buy something (and bring it back to one's home shard) but NOT ENOUGH to justify burning 2 transfer tokens.......

More clear now what my point is ?
 

shalanria

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Dear god, why are you always asking for things from EA? If you can't afford it then make friends and split costs. Thats what everyone else does.


That is having to entrust others.......

Why is it that the game has to force a player to entrust items of a certain value or gold in a good amount onto other players rather than offering tools that help all players to solve their problems on their own thus not having to entrust and bother others ?
If you don't have the gold to buy a transfer token, then don't bother going because you will not have the gold to buy items. As far as having someone else carry your items, if you don't trust them then don't send your items.

I hate buying tokens as much as anyone, but that is what you do. It is all in choices, no one makes you do any of it. It is the same thing as people who xshard to buy resources cheap and goes back to their shard to resell. You make cheap tokens for the rares community then they would be asked to sell cheap tokens for those buying up resources or those wanting to xshard to PVP.

And I for one do attend the rares fest since the very first one that was hosted. Make you a noob character on Pacific and enjoy the fest or do what everyone else does.
 

Dermott of LS

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

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I already told you, if you don't have the gold or $$$ to buy your own Xfer token, you're NOT going to have the gold to buy ANYTHING you can't get on your own shard anyway.
 
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AesSedai

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

- I changed my mind ;)
The dev.s should stop working on improving all that currently is UO & instead should create specialty discount transfer tokens to certain shards, personal account shard currency exchange vendors, and of course a few variations of 'classic' shards (oh, and I'm still waiting for that personal developer to answer every UO thought I have as well as produce every UO change that I want)...
Because obviously these issues are much more important and critical to UO than any of the existing issues.
I keep forgetting the foundation is rock solid and the dev. focus should be on building the skyscrapers and amusement parks.
I should probably make a poll and another thread to show the dev.s that ignoring current UO and focusing on new UO additions is the best way to improve UO ;)
 

Aran

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Remove shard transfers. They're a bad idea from the get go.
 
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gjohnson5

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

I'm not really a rares collector and certainly would NOT use shard transfer for such a issue. Infact I've only used it once. I play on GL and haven't taken the time to play anywhere else. That would be the way I feel about creating a character on Pacific just for a Pacific event. I wouldn't do it.

For this reason , I don't have an issue with the double shard xfer issue. If someone doesn't wish to spend the time playing on another shard , the game should be structured in such a way that they don't have to. If they wanna use real money for the shard xfers and UO Gold, then why not... It's their money
 

popps

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

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I already told you, if you don't have the gold or $$$ to buy your own Xfer token, you're NOT going to have the gold to buy ANYTHING you can't get on your own shard anyway.


Hmmm, does that mean that it is only (or mostly) worth attending the Festival only for high end rares but that for low end rares it ain't worth it and one could well do the shopping on one's home shard ?

Maybe.......

It really depends on what the shard is.

Some shards have plenty of rares, low end or high end, some other shards not.

What if a player is from a shard that has low rares market, also for low end ones ?

Perhaps going to Pacific "could" help bring back home some cheaper, low end rares wouldn't it ?

But the cost of the doublt transfer trip makes it prohibitive and unless one relies on someone else, or on a broker, entrusting them with gold or items, I do not see any other possible way.

No other, unless this other way was actually provided with some new game mechanics which i was suggesting.

It does not look that much evil to me, I do not understand why people seem so annoyed by it. It is to help out those with less means, how could it then be something bad ???
 

Assia Penryn

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

Popps, you're arguing to just argue at this point. Many have made some great suggestions on how to lower your cost for a transfer, you just need to listen.

This festival is not an EA event, it is run by the rares community which is a group of players. EA doesn't have to and shouldn't give preferential treatment because of that. If you don't have the gold for a transfer, chances are anything you are going to find there that you wouldn't find on your shard will not be affordable. This isn't simply a buying opportunity, but a selling one as well. Many of the collectors sell items which helps cover their transfer fees.

Anyone in this game can easily make the gold to get transfer tokens. It takes work, effort and learning your shard's economy. I earn all my gold in-game, I do not purchase it and I do not use any illegal or 'shady' methods.

I know many folks who can't afford to transfer or aren't interested in buying/selling, but they still make a character on the shard for the festival to hang out, participate in the festival events, etc.

Start planning and working on saving gold for the next festival. I bet they'll be another one later this year. You have choices, Popps. Just gotta get off your tushkas and make it happen.
 
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gjohnson5

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Re: Pacific Rares' Festival : Should EA have a limited time offer for Transfer tokens

This festival is not an EA event, it is run by the rares community which is a group of players. EA doesn't have to and shouldn't give preferential treatment because of that. If you don't have the gold for a transfer, chances are anything you are going to find there that you wouldn't find on your shard will not be affordable. This isn't simply a buying opportunity, but a selling one as well. Many of the collectors sell items which helps cover their transfer fees.
EA is hundreds of millions in the red and needs to find ways to make money any way it can. Reducing the cost of shard xfer would be one way to facilitate that
 
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