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Siege Population.....

Uvtha

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OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

How many ****ing posts are we going to have about seige and the ****ing faction artifacts!?!?!?! really? I mean ****ing really? My head is going to explode. jesus.

Business is just fine with crafters. What the hell do you expect to make that isnt already used by the pvpers??? GM leather armor?!?!!? OMG I just made 2.5k for selling this super sweet armor set.

Everyone on Siege Perilous needs to pull their damn heads out of their ass. I've said this before and I'm going to say it again....

You take faction items away, you'll have the same group of pvpers fighting in cursed artifacts...the same items that they replaced with faction arties...SOOOOOOOOOOO the crafters "in your words" are still getting the shaft. You take away faction artifacts, the price of cursed artifacts go up, meaning now ONLY the rich will be wearing the best gear. Having the faction items in game allows everyone access to an unlimited amount of great pvp gear.

You take away artifacts in general, you'll lose alot of the different versatile templates and the only characters you'll be fighting are tamers and bushido warriors. PvP would be dull and no one would do it.




I agree with everything else you said though. And Freja this post was not directed at you. i read one of Sir Dumbass (morder) post about this **** again and I flipped out lol.


I do love how everyone that complains about factions items either A) is not a pvper and not in factions or B) Uses the damn items in pvp and complains that they don't get sold back in 2 minutes after dieing...



Everyone STFU and play the game, learn to adapt and have fun!!!

RAWR
I think all that needs be done in regards to faction arties is:

1) Let anyone farm silver.
2) Have a turn in box for faction arties that gives you some percentage of silver back.

Thus everyone is included, and faction gear is even easier to get ahold of.

I am also for some form of perma cursed arti source again, and perma TOT's, and an increased drop rate for Ilshmarties/MLmarties.

On the fairness of items front, I think those changes would work wonders for balance, as well as giving pvmers/non factions people some more places to hunt for items of value for themselves to use or to sell.

As for other ideas to help the populace:

Bigger bank, great idea. Nude transfers. Second Char slot... at this point it doesn't really matter, but I'm not 100% for it. Make gate a recall level spell, let people load scrolls in books. Make rot 5 minutes all the way to 120.

I think those changes wouldn't spoil anything really, but would help population.
 

Maximus Neximus

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As someone interested in the Siege shard the ONLY thing keeping me from joining up IS RoT. I can live out of my bank just fine, although a house would be nice. I don't want to spend 4+ months or however long it is to train up a character.
 

Tanivar

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I'll wander back onto SP then and try piling up some resources. :)
 

Krystal

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As someone interested in the Siege shard the ONLY thing keeping me from joining up IS RoT. I can live out of my bank just fine, although a house would be nice. I don't want to spend 4+ months or however long it is to train up a character.


See this is exactly what I mean, if you steathed around Luna bank you would see how many players complain about ROT. When you are gaining 1 skill, ROT is not such a pain... But for someone gaining 6 to 8 skills ROT sucks, it takes way to long to do. Specially when your new and not sure what skills you want to play and you end up switching them around its a long pain in the butt process. Which leads to people just quitting. (take the cap off ROT plz)

I disagree with Chard not everyone will have a crafter as a second char, alot of people dont have the paitants or time to do it and would rather make a char to farm and buy what they need.

Also to me it seems over 95% of the shard is for these ideas that everyone has posted in this thread to populate SP, Its the closest we got to old school UO. Hopefully they help us out...
 

Mook Chessy

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I have no problem with any of the idea here save one..

No Crossshard, I have said it time and time again, the players are smarter then the devs and someone will figure out a way to use the transfer to dupe items.

Most of the posters here have played Siege alot longer then me, my questions is, why are you all leaving?

Chicken or the egg if you ask me...

Did you leave because it was dead or is it dead because you left?

Woot!!
 

Multani

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Siege Perilous should be deleted.


The shard is a joke, stop trying to revive your failure.
 
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georgemarvin2001

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I did try to make a Siege character once, years ago. He still has his AOS cape. The problems, as I saw them, were:
1. I could only have one character.
2. That character would have to live out of his bank box, because I have 6 fully developed characters on a production shard. I'm not giving up my prodo shard home.
3. Skill gains would take forever; I can only play a couple of days a week, so it would take over a year to get that one character developed. I just couldn't see taking a year or more to get to the point where I could start to play the shard.
4. Siege has all the problems of a production shard, all of the skill and balance problems that came with the AOS ruleset, all of the problems with rampant griefer tactics by red PK'ers, all of the RNG item crap, all the artie and power scroll balance issues that a prodo shard has, but it takes forever to gain a skill, and it has the same crappy post-AOS ruleset problems that all the prodo shards have. To me, it's just a production shard without item insurance.
5. Not all PvPers want to be factioners. I, for one, don't PvP well with others. I wouldn't be in a faction on the prodo shards if it wasn't for the leet items. I would want to be able to have gear of faction quality that was as cheap and overpowered as faction gear, without having to work 10 times as hard as a factioner to get it. How about this: If my PvP thief manages to steal 5 faction items and turn them in to the thief guildmaster, I get to choose one faction-quality item with the same stats as the faction one, maybe with a "fenced" tag on it?

To me, Siege just isn't worth the trouble.

What would it take for me to play Siege?
1. Most of the people who are interested in playing Siege have been playing a long time. We've spent literally thousands of hours doing the endlessly boring, repetitive tasks that are required to level skills, when we should have been able to gain those skills by actually playing the game. The last thing we want to have to do to play on an advanced PvP shard, is to have to do the same thing over again, in slow motion.
2. We've got friends, guilds, enemies, customers on our prodo shard. We're not just going to drop our houses and 6 or 7 characters on a prodo shard to pick up and move to Siege. We're also not going to live out of our bank. We don't mind having housing work like it did in the old days: A house decays over the course of 14 days unless you log in and open the door.
3. I can't see any reason why we are only allowed one character on Siege. I don't like changing shards a lot. If I was going to play Siege, I would want to be a regular player there. And that means I would want to play a thief sometimes. I would want to play a warrior sometimes. And I would want to play a mage sometimes. Maybe a crafter or tamer. I wouldn't want to be limited to just one character; that is a biggie that stops a lot of players from going to siege.
4. Why not just get rid of faction items on Siege? I think you would have better PvP interactions without all the faction items. The only reason my prodo shard thief is in a faction is for the leet items. Remember that you can only steal from other players if you're a member of the thieves' guild. You can't stay in the thieves' guild if you kill an innocent. It's pretty hard to play in factions without ever getting a murder count. Not that there's anything worth stealing on a prodo shard in the post-AOS world.
5. Bring back real penalties for murderers. Make people think twice before going for those 3000000000 murder counts. If you do that, you would have to give all murderers a clean slate as a one-time event. Then be sure that they know that, if they die while red, they will have permanent stat loss when they rez. They can't go into town. Real consequences for their actions.
 
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Megilhir

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***lets not turn this into a we hate krystal thread plz... start another thread for it... my intent here is to help SP regain thier population of skilled none whiney players that injoy eventure and things not handed to them thx:)
Why not? Sounds like what Freja described EXACTLY what is rude, unsporting gank-ster behaviour.

You want more people to play where you do so you can continue your self-enjoyment play style.

How in the hell are what Freja described as your actions fun or enjoyable for other players?

Maybe you deserve to be ostrized. Maybe you would learn to have a positive style. I knew Reds that were excellent players, vicious but fair. They were trained to PvP. You? You seem trained to gank and bully.

Ganking and dry looting is so lame that I cannot find the words to accurately describe the actions. And I have an extensive knowledge of the English language.

You want more people to come to your little shard (which is dead) so you can get your groove on at their expense.

Now the 42 SP regulars will all post about how wrong I am.

Bah!! I write again...BAH!!!!

On another note; I agree with the improvements some other people (Petra Fyde for one) have suggested, BUT!!!! SP and the Asian version (Mujin?) are but 2 of many shards.

Fix the systemic problems then worry about singular occurances.

P.S. If I am wrong in my understanding of Freya's post then I do sincerely apologize. If it is accurate then ...SHAME ON YOU!
 
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