New Sampirish char?

[Lynk]

120 Swords
120 Bushido
120 tactics
120 anatomy
100 LJ
99 necro
65 Chiv (24 skill points from items)


Ideally would use an ornate axe.. does the LJ dmg modifier take place before all of the DI from items/EoO/Perfection are considered?

 

[Zalan]

Its not effected by the DI cap of 300%, & adds a straight 5% to an Axes base damage. Nor do I believe anything amplifies the damage effect of LJ. Its considered in the same category as Tactics, & Anatomy when applied to damage.

Not sure if I answered your question. I miss the beloved 30% damage modifier it use to give.

 

[Connor_Graham]

LJ gives 10% DI, not 5, but yeah, it's not affected by the DI cap.

 

[Lefty]

Lynk I think you can reach the 300 di cap without the LJ as long as you use a slayer.

Maybe focus/med, heal?

 

[Zalan]

Ya its not 5% I think its rougly 5 points of damge added to Ornate Axe. Stratics damage calculator puts the damage at 23 to 26 with just GM Lj. Instead of the regular 18 to 20 damage

 

[Lefty]

Dang just noticed you do not have parry in your template. Reason?

 

[Lynk]

That was designed for a silver farming character. It takes me 3 hits to kill a demon with a 100% psn dmg demon slayer rune blade.

I was thinking with the LJ and all 120s and an ornate I could 2 shot them. *Shrug*

 

[Stupid Miner]

120 Swords
120 Bushido
120 tactics
120 anatomy
100 LJ
99 necro
65 Chiv (24 skill points from items)


Ideally would use an ornate axe.. does the LJ dmg modifier take place before all of the DI from items/EoO/Perfection are considered?

Hardly seems new... just added LJ.

 

[Freelsy]

That was designed for a silver farming character. It takes me 3 hits to kill a demon with a 100% psn dmg demon slayer rune blade.

I was thinking with the LJ and all 120s and an ornate I could 2 shot them. *Shrug*

Why don't you just take a snake slayer. Your basic sampire template. EOO and you can kill the silver serpents in 1-2 hits everytime...they also spawn faster.

 

[Lefty]

That was designed for a silver farming character. It takes me 3 hits to kill a demon with a 100% psn dmg demon slayer rune blade.

I was thinking with the LJ and all 120s and an ornate I could 2 shot them. *Shrug*

Ahh, well go for it. Besides silver you can harvest resources as well as long as you keep him blue. That's if you can lol

 

[[JD]]

This isn't really a Warrior question but it kind of applies..

do instruments need to be weilded in order to discord?

Because a discording sampire with a leafblade would be pretty wicked against bosses, I would think

 

[Lynk]

Good point JD, a discording sampire would be pretty sweet. If I didn't hate working discord so much I would try to design a template.

 

[Galingree]

This isn't really a Warrior question but it kind of applies..

do instruments need to be weilded in order to discord?

Because a discording sampire with a leafblade would be pretty wicked against bosses, I would think

No. You never have to weild an instrument. In fact you cannot.

 

[[JD]]

I have a new totally awful name for the discording sampire. Move over "whammy", meet......... Sampord!

 

[Picus at the office]

I'm just finishing a sampord as we speak. Made to assist my main account but should be intersting.

120 Archery(cause I ate the scroll before)
120 Music
120 Disco
100 Necro
90 Tactics(only cause this was a gimpy stealther before so its bound to be raised to 110 or 120)
90 Healing(though this is to be stoned off I think)
60 Chiv

There is still some tweaking to be done but I think it will be nifty. Taking them out togther tonight so I'll report what its like.

 

[Garm The Green]

I'm just finishing a sampord as we speak. Made to assist my main account but should be intersting.

120 Archery(cause I ate the scroll before)
120 Music
120 Disco
100 Necro
90 Tactics(only cause this was a gimpy stealther before so its bound to be raised to 110 or 120)
90 Healing(though this is to be stoned off I think)
60 Chiv

There is still some tweaking to be done but I think it will be nifty. Taking them out togther tonight so I'll report what its like.

i had a peace/disco chiv archer. is awesome.
Hows ur disco vamp sammy working out?

 

[Freelsy]

I'm just finishing a sampord as we speak. Made to assist my main account but should be intersting.

120 Archery(cause I ate the scroll before)
120 Music
120 Disco
100 Necro
90 Tactics(only cause this was a gimpy stealther before so its bound to be raised to 110 or 120)
90 Healing(though this is to be stoned off I think)
60 Chiv

There is still some tweaking to be done but I think it will be nifty. Taking them out togther tonight so I'll report what its like.

I don't see this template working. Won't you need Bushido to use LS? Healing without anat is going to be pretty weak. If you have healing, might as well drop the necro down and use curse weapon to heal. Put the remaining points in Bushido so you can LS.Also, maybe drop music, disco down to 100 each and use jewels to compensate so you can have more skill points to play around with. Maybe use 100 archery and just use a hunters headdress. Modifying those skills alone would net you an additional 60 points you can put towards something else.....maybe somethign like this.

100 archery (hunters headdress to 120)
100 music \ Use jewels to get to 120 in each.
100 disco /
90 tactics
90 healing
90 anatomy
60 chiv
50 bushido
40 necro (curse weapon to stay alive, coupled with healing)

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

I don't see this template working. Won't you need Bushido to use LS? Healing without anat is going to be pretty weak. If you have healing, might as well drop the necro down and use curse weapon to heal. Put the remaining points in Bushido so you can LS.Also, maybe drop music, disco down to 100 each and use jewels to compensate so you can have more skill points to play around with. Maybe use 100 archery and just use a hunters headdress. Modifying those skills alone would net you an additional 60 points you can put towards something else.....maybe somethign like this.

100 archery (hunters headdress to 120)
100 music \ Use jewels to get to 120 in each.
100 disco /
90 tactics
90 healing
90 anatomy
60 chiv
50 bushido
40 necro (curse weapon to stay alive, coupled with healing)

Doesn't curse weapon rely on Spirit speak? If so I am pretty sure at 0 SS (or 20 if human) it is fairly useless, mind as well get rid of necro or use it just for wraith form(mana) if you don't plan to die often you could even drop necro to 20 (or 0 if human) use some items to bump it up, and use a scroll to cast wraith. only need 20 to maintain wraith. then 2/6 (4/6 if you can actually manage it) casting and use close wounds if you get into a pickle.

 

[Freelsy]

No, curse weapon does not need spirit speak. But If yo were an archer, you want to keep yoru distance, so being in wraith formwould be suicide.

 

[Stupid Miner]

No, curse weapon does not need spirit speak. But If yo were an archer, you want to keep yoru distance, so being in wraith formwould be suicide.

It doesnt need Spirit Speak, but it'll last 5-6 seconds.

 

[Harlequin]

It doesnt need Spirit Speak, but it'll last 5-6 seconds.

To expand on that, spirit speak determines the duration of curse weapon. With JOAT ss, curse weapon lasts around 3 secs (enough for 2 swings with a fast weapon).

 

[Stupid Miner]

To expand on that, spirit speak determines the duration of curse weapon. With JOAT ss, curse weapon lasts around 3 secs (enough for 2 swings with a fast weapon).

Thanks, didnt feel like looking it up

 

[Freelsy]

But if your using archery, on the move, with healing and anat...you can supplement a quick heal with the curse weapon in a tight situation. You wont need to be casting it to keep yourself alive.


I don't play a pvm archer. But I thought the goal was to keep your distance and not get physically hit. Only hit by spells.

 

[Stupid Miner]

But if your using archery, on the move, with healing and anat...you can supplement a quick heal with the curse weapon in a tight situation. You wont need to be casting it to keep yourself alive.


I don't play a pvm archer. But I thought the goal was to keep your distance and not get physically hit. Only hit by spells.

Oh, don't trust us theorizing about it, try it for yourself and you can say authoritatively if it works or doesn't.
(Test Center too before you try it on a main char)

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

So was not completely wrong just thought it was a lot shorter than that at 0 or 20.

 

[Picus of Napa]

I did have intentions to update this thread but forgot.

As for my char it currently looks like this:
120 Archery
110 Bushido
60 Chiv
120 Disco
120 Music
100 Necro
90 Tactics

I am going to switch out the archery for macing tonight as the mana leech is sad and hence its hard to keep L Strikes going. I have 20 extra points that shall be spent on Bushido as soon as I land another scroll. All in all using this guy as a secondary char for medusa and stuff is great.

 

[Cloak&Dagger]

I did have intentions to update this thread but forgot.

As for my char it currently looks like this:
120 Archery
110 Bushido
60 Chiv
120 Disco
120 Music
100 Necro
90 Tactics

I am going to switch out the archery for macing tonight as the mana leech is sad and hence its hard to keep L Strikes going. I have 20 extra points that shall be spent on Bushido as soon as I land another scroll. All in all using this guy as a secondary char for medusa and stuff is great.

I assume the "20 extra points" is from items? Because that right there is 720.

 

[Nyses]

I have a new totally awful name for the discording sampire. Move over "whammy", meet......... Sampord!

I like "Dampire" myself, lol.

 

[sdurocher]

I like the Dampire name. I have been playing a peace/discord archer awhile and changed things alittle for the Dampire template.

Arch120
Tact 120
Ant 120
Music 120
Disc 120
Necro 99
Chiv 70

This template does massive damage. I can 2 hit a succubus with this and 3 hit with the night reaper, so it should work good on other demons.