I posted these two for Andy. He was lurking and doesnt have an account. Some 1v1 of WU being dirtnapped by Andy. he thought if WU can post pics that are years old...so can Andy!
NO! NO! NO! Wu is the best pvper in uo!!! roflmao! Wu thinks he is good when he ganks everyone. Yes he has made a few kills 1v1, but who hasn't??? So far, the best fighter you guys have is Gernize, but even he is not that great. I just say he is the best you have because he is the only one that will come out against most odds. Either way, you guys die, and we usually win!So wait, Andy (whom has always been known as a dexxer) killed WU on his mage??? LMAO... good **** Andy...
Now onto a little disturbing news. Is it just me or is WU literally obsessed with every pvp that's ever been better than he is??? He still talks about Flood, Edge (Kaoru Nagisa), Wasp, Monster, Timmy, my name comes out of his mouth an awful lot...
I'm surprised he doesn't bad mouth JennyCOCO or Phirehawk or any of the other greats...
Such a disturbing little child he is
1. Make sure you have insurence.Advanced warning to 86 guild;
When you drop your suit / weapons / whatever and we loot it, do not ask for it back. You will go to Elderon and ask him to replace it. Nothing will be returned to 86 from this point on. Your return policy rights have been voided because of Elderon, for a simple mage ring that is easily made. Damned fool!!
This action also voids any further battlefield truces to wipe out a common enemy. Personally, if I see an 86 on the field, next to a SCAM and a D@D and a COP, I will drop the 86 first and foremost.
There will be no exceptions to this ruling.
While I understand your reasons for your position on this matter, I simply cannot understand why you hold an entire guild for actions of individual members.We have always had a good return policy in WAKA, to all except for SCAM and COP. We have always returned every item dropped to anyone not in those guilds, including 86.
I do not swap suits...ever. Each character has their own suits.
Every character has at least 50 mill in the bank and auto renew is / has always on. All items are insured.
Return policies exist for those nasty uninsure bugs, like what happened last night.
I am well enough off that I am able to replace anything and everything that could ever be lost but that is no excuse for not honoring the return policies that are extended as a matter of choice.
As was stated, and it's very simple, 86 should not ever ask a WAKA to return anything. Elderon should replace anything lost, since it is his fault that they no longer enjoy that respectful option. This is one of those instances where the entire guild is held to the standards of their members. Always has been and always will.
No biggie..just ensuring that everyone knows how the cards are going to be dealt.
Oh there was talk between the 2 parties that were involved in the loss of the ring... Eldron actually agreed to return the "ring"... I put ring in quotations because Eldron returned A "ring" but not the ACTUAL ring... Total dirtbag move ala SCAM... Good job tho... Remain hiding in ur house and talking **** or fighting in Luna with a small guild...Nobody is required to return anything to anyone ever. It is my opinion that returning things is up to the individuals involved. I am almost a hundred percent certain that i have seen faction and non faction items locked down on the steps of peoples houses including waka member's houses. I can even remember a few times people have claimed to either cut up someones armor or dropped it in a trash can.
I do not know what happened haven't been on much the last couple of days. Did you ask nicely for the item back or offer to pay a fee to have it returned. Still I believe returning items is a case by case matter and completely up to the individuals involved.
In this scenario, it's the GM of said guild keeping the item... A person of "leadership"...I'm more towards returning items on an individual basis. I know one or two people that are total aholes in game sometimes, but they have returned items and if they ever have items drop then I would return it or speak to to guilldmates about returning the item. Then there are others that they never return items so they shouldn't expect items returned. The problem with lumping the entire guild into the no return policy is that a lot of the times the person that caused the problem is no longer in the guild.
Can I Join?On an unrelated note.
I formed a guild (Goth) and sent out war invites to COP,Waka and D&D.
Haha, im ok with that.sure all in fun. However I must warn that you maybe especially targeted for locking and deleting threads
Ok, I can see why Widow would seem a little upset if that was the case. It made Widow look bad to just come into Stratics and start trashing 86 over a lost ring. I was going to offer the following advice in that he first post on the non-PVP Sonoma thread that he lost an item with the following mods and would appreciate it if the item would be returned and he thought or was told that so and so had looted the item. Then if that person (who we know posts on stratics) can either reply that their not giving the item back, ignore the post, or say they will give the item back. If the thread is ignored or replied back in the negative, then he could have posted the part about not returning items back to 86. You might have just caught him at a bad time to ask the item back and you never know if by politely asking for it back on Stratics he might have had time to think about it (or not). The problem with him just making a blanket statement that Waka isn't returning items to COP, Scam, or 86, is that the next item dropped will most likely not be from Widow or Eldron but from someone that had no part in any of the incidents and have always given items back and most likely they will have Widows statement throw back into their face when the ask for the item back.In this scenario, it's the GM of said guild keeping the item... A person of "leadership"...
Either way, it was a ******bag move... Keep the ring if u want, but don't be a moron and give an alternate ring back after saying u would give the ring back... total pancake made move there... He truly swiped his punk card on that transaction...
In these circumstances, I would be pissed as hell and put him in the same category as the leadership of the scam cesspool bottoms dwellers. Yep, he would be my first target (as is scam) each and every time I see him.In this scenario, it's the GM of said guild keeping the item... A person of "leadership"...
Either way, it was a ******bag move... Keep the ring if u want, but don't be a moron and give an alternate ring back after saying u would give the ring back... total pancake made move there... He truly swiped his punk card on that transaction...
Racial hate messages were sent via ICQ before this went down. Which in fact is a hate crime. Which is real and shows of a loathsome character.In these circumstances, I would be pissed as hell and put him in the same category as the leadership of the scam cesspool bottoms dwellers. Yep, he would be my first target (as is scam) each and every time I see him.
As for returning items? I still wouldnt blame the guild for the actions of one. I understand this is an individual choice whether or not to return items. I just choose to do so because for the most part it is for me the right thing to do. I respect and like most of the Sonoma PvP community. I like to think that I would return items to those that kept my lost items, but honestly? I don't know what I would do. I do know I wouldn't punish the entire guild.
I read that post before Hunter removed it. It wasnt Widow Maker that was accused of making the racial slurs, if that is what you are implying. I don't even know if it was over the loss of the ring. They are two individuals who aren't even in WAKA and have a shardwide reputation for their nasty mouths. I have NEVER seen Widow Maker resort to that sort of trash talking, have you? propaganda? Yes...but never trash talking.Racial hate messages were sent via ICQ before this went down. Which in fact is a hate crime. Which is real and shows of a loathsome character.
In my opinion losing a ring (which are just pixels) this individual should consider himself lucky. It is a small price to pay for what he did.
In all honesty, I don't know what happened about this ring but I will say that a lot of people take this game too seriously and when they get mad, they tend to use the most hurtful words they can think of especially ones degrading women or ethnic groups. I have most definitely been a victim of racial hatred in this game which is one of my reasons I stopped playing Sonoma. I don't blame Sonoma but when talking derogatory remarks about my wife who is one of kindest people on the shard, and then calling me every racial slur ever thought of, I decided it was best to stop pvp on sonoma and go elsewhere. Sadly enough to say, I found it on other shards as well. My point is that, one apple spoils the bunch. It just takes one person to ruin the views of an entire guild. I think that's a shame too because there are some guildies who don't have a clue that their guild leaders or co guildies think or act that way. As for armor, we (GloK, OSG) always brought back dropped armor because for one reason: "Do unto others as you would like done to you." But if they have ever trash talked in a negative way (racist, sexist, etc) they would never see their gear back again. All in all, enjoy the game for what it's worth. Surround yourselves with honest, respectful people and you will have more fun. If you have a wild person in your guild and think he/ she will ruin your fun, immediately talk to your guild leader to remove them.I read that post before Hunter removed it. It wasnt Widow Maker that was accused of making the racial slurs, if that is what you are implying. I don't even know if it was over the loss of the ring. They are two individuals who aren't even in WAKA and have a shardwide reputation for their nasty mouths. I have NEVER seen Widow Maker resort to that sort of trash talking, have you? propaganda? Yes...but never trash talking.
I DO agree with your assessment of the two individuals who make those comments. A question I do have for you Lefty...why is it "acceptable" in game to call a woman sexually derogatory names, yet you find this type of name calling loathsome?
Good words, Melchior, very good words.In all honesty, I don't know what happened about this ring but I will say that a lot of people take this game too seriously and when they get mad, they tend to use the most hurtful words they can think of especially ones degrading women or ethnic groups. I have most definitely been a victim of racial hatred in this game which is one of my reasons I stopped playing Sonoma. I don't blame Sonoma but when talking derogatory remarks about my wife who is one of kindest people on the shard, and then calling me every racial slur ever thought of, I decided it was best to stop pvp on sonoma and go elsewhere. Sadly enough to say, I found it on other shards as well. My point is that, one apple spoils the bunch. It just takes one person to ruin the views of an entire guild. I think that's a shame too because there are some guildies who don't have a clue that their guild leaders or co guildies think or act that way. As for armor, we (GloK, OSG) always brought back dropped armor because for one reason: "Do unto others as you would like done to you." But if they have ever trash talked in a negative way (racist, sexist, etc) they would never see their gear back again. All in all, enjoy the game for what it's worth. Surround yourselves with honest, respectful people and you will have more fun. If you have a wild person in your guild and think he/ she will ruin your fun, immediately talk to your guild leader to remove them.
i work here too!!!I read that post before Hunter removed it.
I read that post before Hunter removed it. It wasnt Widow Maker that was accused of making the racial slurs, if that is what you are implying. I don't even know if it was over the loss of the ring. They are two individuals who aren't even in WAKA and have a shardwide reputation for their nasty mouths. I have NEVER seen Widow Maker resort to that sort of trash talking, have you? propaganda? Yes...but never trash talking.
I DO agree with your assessment of the two individuals who make those comments. A question I do have for you Lefty...why is it "acceptable" in game to call a woman sexually derogatory names, yet you find this type of name calling loathsome?
I know it wasn't him. I was present in game and in vent when this went down and I know of a few relationships people share in game.It wasnt Widow Maker that was accused of making the racial slurs, if that is what you are implying.
It is not. It is of equal importance. However I am not aware of this in first hand knowledge. I rarely have played this game in the last 4 years. If you are ever subject to an attack of this nature let me know I will be there right beside you.A question I do have for you Lefty...why is it "acceptable" in game to call a woman sexually derogatory names, yet you find this type of name calling loathsome?
I'm not sure what to expect if I got a PM from Pooexpect to see some nice PM's from Poo or I.
I would really love to see the messages that were sent to him from the member of Waka... It was my understanding that the only one in Waka talking to him via ICQ was Davey and he's never came across as racist...Racial hate messages were sent via ICQ before this went down. Which in fact is a hate crime. Which is real and shows of a loathsome character.
In my opinion losing a ring (which are just pixels) this individual should consider himself lucky. It is a small price to pay for what he did.
oh trust me... you'll know when you get a message from me.I'm not sure what to expect if I got a PM from Poo
I hope I would around Christmas, from the Christmas Poo that is
I like how you complain about racial slurs and all that such and then put Zaks mom inbetween two black eye faces. Kind of ironic.So Zak tells me if I give him the ring he will give it to Snake. I let him in my house and into vent, give him the ring....he attacks me and gets owned. From what I can tell it doesn't look like he will be giving the ring to snake. I dont understand why waka even hangs with that dude. Hes got no class, he plays UO all day long, and has a rasit. Anyways, heres the screenshot of Zak owned. I would post the screenshot of the racial slurs, but I think we all get the point there.
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It was a pretty good fight to watch and and I managed to get some giggles in when I shot at some of scam and got chased by scam, waka and assorted others. Who in COP died though? While I was there, COP didn't die...got close a few times but managed to get away.It was a good fight.
A few COP stealthers looking for pop shots. Ineffectual for the most part and most died.
Haha, acctally I was talking about him more being face down in the dirt.Umm... Hunter if your seeing Thrax stretched out in his undies so often you'd think you two would be on better terms ....