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DarkVoid

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As part of an on going re-vitalization effort, there will be some ads showing on the forums soon. As far as Stratics having computers laced with gold and diamond sititing chairs...We're not quite covering the hosting fees currently. :)

Of course we want them to be as unobtrusive as possible, while still offering us a revenue stream for maintaining the website - there is a fine balance, so we're putting our heads together and trying to find it.
Do you have a donations link? I'm sure these forum posters who are so vocal about getting unwanted ads could spare $5-$10USD, and I'm sure there would be plenty of contributors. :D
 

kelmo

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Unless Ryan is lying, then Ryan is still the owner of Stratics.

No idea who this new guy is, other than if he's someone using a new nick.
He has a big fat A shield. His title is general manager.
 

Lord Chaos

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Heh, well yeah, that really shows something. Many people including myself have had A shields and fancy titles...doesn't really show anything.
 

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You are out of the loop LC... Again, I ask you to let it go. You have issues, you know the drill. Send an email to the Stratics Admins. You don't have to post here...
 

Lord Chaos

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Is that an official moderator request?

Well then fine, I've said what I needed to say.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
 

GarthGrey

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I expect soon, to be the only poster that's not a Mod or a Reporter....
 

Kayhynn

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Nah...been there, done that, don't have a T-SHirt...ill stay non-badged for the rest of my tmie here :p
 

Hunters' Moon

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I've got it!!

Lets unban everyone who has been perma-banned, and charge them 5 cents a post. So that way if we have to deal with their stupidity again, at least the site will benefit.
Does the 5 cents cover mods as well?
 

Lord Gareth

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See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.
And ignore evil *Puts on ignore*

I am rather excited about having Justin here. After reading his email I am now more motivated to help as much as I can. I love almost a full cup of Ultima Online, I love 1 1/2 cups of the two Chesapeake EMS (The other 1/2 cup = 1/4 of a cup in each EM.) You cant love someone 1cup full unless it is an android. I love the DEV Team except the part of the cup that is filled by the art team. (I'm still mad at them for letting Sakkarah make that big evil turkey by doing the art work for it.)

Anyways..... I am happy to be here. I like moderating and News reporting and I love the Chesapeake Community Directory our entire shard is working on together.[FONT=&quot] So I cannot wait to see what new toys they give us to help better the community.[/FONT]
 

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For my efforts I want pie and a disco ball please *winks*
 
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*pokes head in door*


I heard the word "cookies" from down the hall......
 

wanderer1origin

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startics should just deal uo gold buy and sell with a spread would cover inflow and offer safe brokering for rest
and never has uo said bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just stratics insanity
 

Guido_LS

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Just a comment, re: ad based revenue...

Stratics is supposed to be the official forums for EA - let EA foot the bill, ad free. Every other MMO out there does...

(self edited a lot of negativity that, while expressing a large amount of mine, and I'm sure others, anger with EA, wouldn't have added anything *constructive* to the conversation)
 
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Just a comment, re: ad based revenue...

Stratics is supposed to be the official forums for EA - let EA foot the bill, ad free. Every other MMO out there does...

(self edited a lot of negativity that, while expressing a large amount of mine, and I'm sure others, anger with EA, wouldn't have added anything *constructive* to the conversation)
EA just cut their staff when they didn't have staff to spare.

... this would be nice, but isn't realistic.
 

Petra Fyde

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Stratics is not the 'official' forum of UO. Mark Jacobs put an end to that when he decided UO didn't need an official fan site. I also vividly remember a post from Draconi just after Mark Jacobs left that implied he pretty much gagged the devs and stopped them posting any fansites, feeding everything through the community team.

We are one of a number of fan sites in the 'fan site program' which was introduced last spring and for which I applied when it was announced.

Airmid, I could have sworn I got you your disco ball! :D

JHall is, as his title states, the new General Manager for Stratics. I look forward to working with him in my role as Managing Editor of the UO section of the site.
If anyone has an issue with the way I perform as Managing Editor they're welcome to send in their application to replace me.
 

Zayin666

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If anyone has an issue with the way I perform as Managing Editor they're welcome to send in their application to replace me.
Well put... its just too easy to come here and complain.. if those eternal complainers really had some balls they would put some efforts into making it better instead of complaining all day long!!

Keep up the good work Stratics team!

Thanks!
 

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Why is this



as well as an ad for a *free* mmo that isn't UO showing up in every thread? It should be rather obvious that I have a registered account... even your system says so. If it's an attempt to fish for donations, then lemme know, and I can gladly move this over to rants and spiels and let my opinion on that topic be known.


Hidden Forums ??

To discuss what ???
 
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Out of interest, WHAT THE HELL IS EVERYONE TALKING ABOUT???

2nd post is an advert??

Since when??

I dont see any, i see the one in the banner but not in posts.
 

Petra Fyde

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As Jhall has already said, he was just testing the ad code, the text is a hang over from years ago when Stratics Plus was active. Nothing relevant to panic over.
Current 'hidden' forums are:
1. The one we move your dev's questions to for them to read and answer. Answered threads are moved back to the visible forum asap. We have 7 moderators on that board to ensure minimum delay on that.
2. The EM forums. Not in use because I have not yet met EA's conditions for their use. It is my profound hope that JHall, and the resources he brings with him, will be able to make up for my failings and rectify this.
 
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Victoria Navarre

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As Jhall has already said, he was just testing the ad code, the text is a hang over from years ago when Stratics Plus was active. Nothing relevant to panic over.
Current 'hidden' forums are:
1. The one we move your dev's questions to for them to read and answer. Answered threads are moved back to the visible forum asap. We have 7 moderators on that board to ensure minimum delay on that.
2. The EM forums. Not in use because I have not yet met EA's conditions for their use. It is my profound hope that JHall, and the resources he brings with him, will be able to make up for my failings and rectify this.
What are the conditions you must meet?
 

Aurelius

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2. The EM forums. Not in use because I have not yet met EA's conditions for their use. It is my profound hope that JHall, and the resources he brings with him, will be able to make up for my failings and rectify this.
Petra, I'm fairly certain the problems there are not your 'failings', but some EA requirements that are not supportable with the current systems.

Of course, if EA management were decent people, they would offer the help needed get the things they want, especially since EA benefit from all the work you and the other Stratics folks do, albeit indirectly, for EA for free......
 

popps

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This has been my complaint since EA dropped its support of the game. Stratics is a voluntary site and relying on voluntary assistance to keep things accurate and up to date. Just look at the ages of the FAQ. It is no wonder why it is hard for new players to get started. Is there another MMO that relies on Stratics for its official forems and player guides?



When Ea dropped support of UO it started to crumble


Personally, I think, that since Stratics offers, in a way, help to players playing various games thus, indirectly, help those games who get to maintain those players playing those games since they get help in the gaming, it should be the games Companies of the games hosted on Stratics, who should in some ways help subsidize the maintaining of Stratics online.

That is, in order for Stratics to host a game so that fellow players can discuss about it and help each other playing it, the Company should pay some fee to Stratics towards its upkeep.

Wrong thinking ?
 
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Victoria Navarre

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Personally, I think, that since Stratics offers, in a way, help to players playing various games thus, indirectly, help those games who get to maintain those players playing those games since they get help in the gaming, it should be the games Companies of the games hosted on Stratics, who should in some ways help subsidize the maintaining of Stratics online.

That is, in order for Stratics to host a game so that fellow players can discuss about it and help each other playing it, the Company should pay some fee to Stratics towards its upkeep.

Wrong thinking ?
I think it would only be fair that EA help support Stratics. Stratics has done alot for EA over the years. Although,it is possible that the Admins in Stratics wish to keep this site autonimous in nature and thus,would keep them from accepting any fee or any other finicial contribution from EAMythic.
 
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. Nothing relevant to panic over.
Current 'hidden' forums are:

2. The EM forums. Not in use because I have not yet met EA's conditions for their use. It is my profound hope that JHall, and the resources he brings with him, will be able to make up for my failings and rectify this.
1) no panic, i just dont actually see what everyone else is moaning about :) it looks the same as it always has to me.

2) you mean the EM forums you guys keep forgetting to make hidden and allow people to post in :p Shame though, was a nice idea...more people read stratics than see the EM websites and new / returning players are probably more aware that stratics is out there than EM websites.
 

Petra Fyde

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hehe, Nice idea popps, but then anyone could set up a fansite and demand payment from the company producing the relevant game. Not really feasible.

As regards the 'out of date' comments, it's all too easy for people to say 'oh Stratics is years out of date' with the assumption that, because it was true some time ago, nothing has changed since.

One has only to look at the 'Stygian Abyss' heading on the menu index to see that new content has been added and the myriad 'upd' tags thoughout the menu to see that old content has been updated.

However in certain cases said 'one' can't actually be bothered to look at the site before trotting out the tired old accusation. I've read it from several sources recently. It annoys me every time I read it. We ARE getting up to date, perhaps they should too?
 

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*smiles* Hey popps... Show us something out of date. Point us in that direction and give us clear direction as to what is wrong. We would appreciate that.
 

Aurelius

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hehe, Nice idea popps, but then anyone could set up a fansite and demand payment from the company producing the relevant game. Not really feasible.
And there's also that fun old argument, 'how can your forums be independent if you get paid by the game company?'.

I'd not like a general backhander payment from EA to Stratics, or anywhere else, because you too easily open yourselves up to those sort of allegations.

However, when someone like EA says they want something specific done, so they can have better communications with their customers, they should stand up and meet the costs (in cash, or staff time) that arise from their requirements, not expect other people to do all of what should be EA's job for free...

In this instance, EA have the mentality of the classic 'forum whiner' - they want something, demand that someone else do it, but won't inconvenience themselves by actually helping get it done. Presumably, they must enjoy it when posters them that way, or else they would not do similar things themselves... :twak:
 

Petra Fyde

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2) you mean the EM forums you guys keep forgetting to make hidden and allow people to post in :p Shame though, was a nice idea...more people read stratics than see the EM websites and new / returning players are probably more aware that stratics is out there than EM websites.
I set them visible because I was assured the condition had been met. Turned out the job was only half done so I had to close them again.

It does require an adjustment to the actual forum files, and as anyone who has read my posts knows, I don't have the technical knowledge to do that.
 

Lord Chaos

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If anyone has an issue with the way I perform as Managing Editor they're welcome to send in their application to replace me.
I don't think anyone has a problem with you at all, you are one of the hardest working people this site has and a prime reason many of us even remotely care about it.

To bad this is Deja Vu...new management, nice intro mail, exciting future and promises...that seems to be a cycle every few years. I would just hate to see the same outcome again of people hurt and **** on.
 

Lord Chaos

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Well put... its just too easy to come here and complain.. if those eternal complainers really had some balls they would put some efforts into making it better instead of complaining all day long!!
Íts me and my teams doing that Stratics even has these servers its hosted on now and many of the new systems and improvements. Not to mention thousands of articles and updates.

I am not a complainer, I am one who has been there, done that, got the t-shirt. (literally)
 

Guido_LS

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Stratics is not the 'official' forum of UO. Mark Jacobs put an end to that when he decided UO didn't need an official fan site. I also vividly remember a post from Draconi just after Mark Jacobs left that implied he pretty much gagged the devs and stopped them posting any fansites, feeding everything through the community team.

We are one of a number of fan sites in the 'fan site program' which was introduced last spring and for which I applied when it was announced.

Airmid, I could have sworn I got you your disco ball! :D

JHall is, as his title states, the new General Manager for Stratics. I look forward to working with him in my role as Managing Editor of the UO section of the site.
If anyone has an issue with the way I perform as Managing Editor they're welcome to send in their application to replace me.
Petra - no disrespect, but we all know there are two English based *forums* out there with any activity and duration, and a handful of Japanese/Asian sites that see a metric buttload more cooperation/conversation from EA than the English sites get. Or, to be more correct, two English based sites that are not based on the posting of exploits, scripts, free shards, etc.

Of those two English sites, Stratics is the one with the (albeit, currently non-functional) EM forums, as well as the Ask The Devs section, which is the direct replacement for FoF. That pretty much puts the stamp clearly on this site. The fact that the EA/Mythic staff seems to be, for the most part, muzzled, does not make this untrue. They do NOT communicate with the fanbase directly anywhere other than here, or at least nowhere in a language that over 1/2 that fanbase can communicate in.

Regardless, the original issue was about the ads - and there are solutions that can be implemented to help lower bandwidth usage as well as storage used, such as the outright removal of the non-used areas of the Stratics network (Everquest and Warhammer, both with no updates/activity for 2 and 1 year, respectively).

As much as I dislike the idea, I'd be far more comfortable with a beg-a-thon, a la Wiki, once a year or so, than I am with what was a very intrusive ad in the middle of a topic thread, complete with not only ads for a non-related game, but also a block of spam from buy.com, complete with pictures - a company known to be notoriously bad for tracking cookies and other privacy violations.

And yes, as long as this is, despite protests to the contrary, the only site that the EA/Mythic staff will communicate with the sub base (*in English - sorry if I seem to be an anglophile - I *do* read/write several other languages, but neither Japanese nor Korean happen to be on that list), then EA needs to be throwing a bone in the form of either $$ or hosting in this direction.
 

Lord Chaos

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Stratics does not have storage space problems, nor does it have bandwith issues.

The only real significant cost would be the 3 co-located Alpha servers + minor servers.

If a site is inactive, then it doesn't generate bandwith, so it costs nothing to have.

The rest is just icing costs really.
 
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Ahh settle down LC... It was not that big of a deal and it was resolved quickly.
Most likely because people complained. Either way, it was to make a quick buck and to test ways to get it to fit in. I know because wow, as an owner of a big site, I got the offer of the same deals, we just didn't go for it.
Eh? You can't be talking bout EOGAMER. ROFL... Large.
 
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