A Report on one hour doing Farmer Nash Quest.

[OldAsTheHills]

In one hour, under Stealth mode, I did as many Farmer Nash quests.
The Resource collected was gems.

Star Sapphires 25
Amber 50
Sapphires 20
Ruby 40
Emerald 40
Citrine 50
Tourmaline 50
Diamonds 30
Amethyst 65

This generated many Raptors and Ballem daemons, which tend to fight
each other.

It took 73 minutes to slay the 26 remaining Ballems.
Which yielded 14826 gold, 8 void orbs, 2 void essence, 390 Daemon bones,
and 3 Ancient Pottery fragments.

Based on this... some relative cost/risk value can be assigned to these
resources.

More reports to come.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[Cruxshadow]

*note to self*

Check farmer nash area for marks....

Check!

 

[Wulf2k]

Well, I think for gems at least, their value will be pretty tightly linked to their vendor cost.

I'd burn through the gems you collected very, very quickly. If you even just matched cheap vendor prices, you'd be bought out fairly instantly, assuming you collected enough to make it worth somebody's while to buy.

 

[OldAsTheHills]

*note to self*

Check farmer nash area for marks....

Check!

Looking for a place to die...?

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[OldAsTheHills]

Well, I think for gems at least, their value will be pretty tightly linked to their vendor cost.

I'd burn through the gems you collected very, very quickly. If you even just matched cheap vendor prices, you'd be bought out fairly instantly, assuming you collected enough to make it worth somebody's while to buy.

The game would change if the developers decided to remove gemstones from
npc vendor list.

I am just reporting if you did not have the gold.
10 gems + 2 to 3 unravealable items per Farmer Nash quest.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[OldAsTheHills]

One hour hunting of High Plains Boura yielded 20 Boura Pelts,
five Boura Hides, and 160 Dragon Blood.

One hour collecting Chaga Mushrooms, 381 Chaga Mushrooms...

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[Tiberius]

The game would change if the developers decided to remove gemstones from
npc vendor list.

I am just reporting if you did not have the gold.
10 gems + 2 to 3 unravealable items per Farmer Nash quest.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

Are you out of your mind? Do you do imbuing at all? You have any idea how many freakin gems I go through? per suit made? per weapon? Any conception
of how aggravting it already is to buy the damn thigns off the vendors if the vendor is not jacked up?

The only change we need for gem vendors is having gem vendors of the faction variety with lower costs and larger numbers of vendors.

 

[Bruin]

Interesting, that results in 370 total gems.

Since gems range in prices from about 100-300 minimum prices, at an average cost of 150 per gem, that's worth 55k, or 200 per that's 74k. So just a GM stealther could make around 60k an hour doing this quest in gems alone. Not sure how easy it is to make gold anymore.....

 

[Luka Melehan]

*note to self*

Check farmer nash area for marks....

Check!

only red I have seen in SA lands...stopped to chat.

 

[FrejaSP]

Are you out of your mind? Do you do imbuing at all? You have any idea how many freakin gems I go through? per suit made? per weapon? Any conception
of how aggravting it already is to buy the damn thigns off the vendors if the vendor is not jacked up?

The only change we need for gem vendors is having gem vendors of the faction variety with lower costs and larger numbers of vendors.

Tib look at it as what the game need and not how to keep it easy.

Lets say they remove gems and regs from npc vendors. This will open up for alot business for PvM's and gatherers.

You may need to increase the ways to gems and regs and increase the drop of gems from mining.

The good with SA is, it made us all busy so why not make someone busy gathering gems for imbuing and regs for alchemists and scribers.

As long all are busy and can make money from what they are doing and use the money to get the stuff they can't affort time for it will work.

The bonus we will get is a more active shard and more meat for the PK's and Siege will rock.

We may need a few more tweaks, like less weight for leather and boards before it's perfect.

 

[Wulf2k]

If gems were taken off vendors, we'd keep maybe 2 imbuers on the shard. There wouldn't be enough gems for any more, and the rich ones would buy out everybody that gathered gems.

 

[OldAsTheHills]

Are you out of your mind? Do you do imbuing at all? You have any idea how many freakin gems I go through? per suit made? per weapon? Any conception
of how aggravting it already is to buy the damn thigns off the vendors if the vendor is not jacked up?

The only change we need for gem vendors is having gem vendors of the faction variety with lower costs and larger numbers of vendors.

I been there and done that and I still there.

The NPC vendors will not be changed by the developers no matter what
players wish. Our stituations on Siege Perilous is difficult enough.

The price fixing by Factions up or down determines whether farming is
worth doing...

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[Wulf2k]

If you want to see a real faction war, try raising prices.... =]

 

[OldAsTheHills]

One hour hunting of Clan Scratch Savage Wolves yielded 67 Reflective Wolf Eye's

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[OldAsTheHills]

Increase activities in farming anything will increase potential raiding by others.

Oh well, this is Siege Perilous.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[OldAsTheHills]

If you want to see a real faction war, try raising prices.... =]

Is that Faction vs Faction or just with the controlling Faction membership?
Hmm, and Factions are here to do what?

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[Mook Chessy]

If you have a tamer or a melee char with pvm ability it makes no sense to do this quest!

Uo offers at least 25 Beasties that will put over 150k an hour in your pocket, not to mention fillling a bag with items that should yield (with 1200 luck or so) 1-3 Relic Frags 90-120 Essence

This translates into well over 300k per hour! Use these funds to buy the gems!


If you do not have imbuing then please PM me, I will buy all of your loot bags and unravel them and make payment to you (50-200k depending of the quality of the loot)

I do want to say that I have done this quest several times, it does make sense at times.
If you are getting Rot gains or training up a new pet, then I always do thing like this as you are killing 3 birds with one stone!

 

[OldAsTheHills]

In one hour, under Stealth mode, I did as many Farmer Nash quests.
The Resource collected was gems.

Star Sapphires 25
Amber 50
Sapphires 20
Ruby 40
Emerald 40
Citrine 50
Tourmaline 50
Diamonds 30
Amethyst 65

This generated many Raptors and Ballem daemons, which tend to fight
each other.

It took 73 minutes to slay the 26 remaining Ballems.
Which yielded 14826 gold, 8 void orbs, 2 void essence, 390 Daemon bones,
and 3 Ancient Pottery fragments.

Based on this... some relative cost/risk value can be assigned to these
resources.

More reports to come.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

Alternative method of farming of the Farmer Nash quest is too
kill each monster as they spawn along with collecting the quest
reward.

In one hour, I collected 18466 gold, 3 Void orbs, 2 Silver Snake Skins,
1 Raptor teeth, 2 Void essence, 15 diamonds, 20 rubies, 10 tourmalines,
15 amber, 35 amethyst, 40 sapphires, 15 star sapphires, 10 citrines,
15 emeralds, and 3 Ancient Pottery fragments.

I am sure that some collection areas are better for Silver Snake Skins, and
Raptor teeth. But, Greater Dragon pets will make the difference.

Further investigations may occur along this line of thought.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[OldAsTheHills]

If you have a tamer or a melee char with pvm ability it makes no sense to do this quest!

Uo offers at least 25 Beasties that will put over 150k an hour in your pocket, not to mention fillling a bag with items that should yield (with 1200 luck or so) 1-3 Relic Frags 90-120 Essence

This translates into well over 300k per hour! Use these funds to buy the gems!


If you do not have imbuing then please PM me, I will buy all of your loot bags and unravel them and make payment to you (50-200k depending of the quality of the loot)

I do want to say that I have done this quest several times, it does make sense at times.
If you are getting Rot gains or training up a new pet, then I always do thing like this as you are killing 3 birds with one stone!

I do not have Animal taming... and I choose not to train that skill.

Boast not too loudly, the developers reading may think Taming is in need
of adjustment.

I plan to use that which I collect, other wise I would not collect resources.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[T'Challa]

One hour hunting of Clan Scratch Savage Wolves yielded 67 Reflective Wolf Eye's

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

Worthless. Reflect physical damage not only sucks, its guardwhack-inducing.

 

[Mook Chessy]

I do not have Animal taming... and I choose not to train that skill.

Boast not too loudly, the developers reading may think Taming is in need
of adjustment.

I plan to use that which I collect, other wise I would not collect resources.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

For someone who *stares* so much, you see very little...

I said tamer OR melee char ( I actually pvm on a bushy archer alot!)

 

[Tiberius]

Tib look at it as what the game need and not how to keep it easy.

Lets say they remove gems and regs from npc vendors. This will open up for alot business for PvM's and gatherers.


You may need to increase the ways to gems and regs and increase the drop of gems from mining.

The good with SA is, it made us all busy so why not make someone busy gathering gems for imbuing and regs for alchemists and scribers.

As long all are busy and can make money from what they are doing and use the money to get the stuff they can't affort time for it will work.

The bonus we will get is a more active shard and more meat for the PK's and Siege will rock.

We may need a few more tweaks, like less weight for leather and boards before it's perfect.

There is no way players framing critters could keep up with demand for gems. if a player wants to sell gems that are incidental grabs from other pvming endeavors, more power to them; I would buy them but that little bit would bea drop int he bucket compared to what i go through. You can very easily burn 100-150 of a gem imbuing the 5th mod onto something.

There are plenty of other things for farmers to makea buck off with SA. I bought seeds of renewal today, I have a boura pelt deal pending, There are certain essence that are valuable. Horned and barbed are once again valuable and I will probably be looking to stockpile some of this soon as well.
I have the ability to get almost all these thigns on my own; what I do not have is the time.

I agree with you about gem drops on mining but lets leave regs and gems to the npcs; both are items that noone could keep a pace with use.

I make most of my gem buying cash while farming up essences and silver; there are better thigns fora player to devote his time to than farming gems. If someone wanted to try thier hand at gem sales they could do it just like we do regs; buy it off an npc and mark up for thier time, effort, and the convenience of being able to grab 200 per at a time.

 

[Tiberius]

If you want to see a real faction war, try raising prices.... =]

That would start a **** storm but would be quashed quickly by the 3 remaining factions I imagine. No one really wants to do sig sits and play candelabra, field games all damn night any more, thank God. You certainly will not see me harrassing the owners of Brit and vesper as they have proven thierselves capable managers of shard finance. Other towns, however? Well I coudl use a war horse.

 

[OldAsTheHills]

One hour farming Toxic Sliths yielded 27530 gold, 7 ancient Pottery fragments,
14 Slith tongues, 1 Tattered Remains of an ancient scroll and 24 toxic venom sacs.

Lag and deadly poison can kill ya here.

*stares*
Yahaxithonix

 

[FrejaSP]

There is no way players framing critters could keep up with demand for gems. if a player wants to sell gems that are incidental grabs from other pvming endeavors, more power to them; I would buy them but that little bit would bea drop int he bucket compared to what i go through. You can very easily burn 100-150 of a gem imbuing the 5th mod onto something.

I still believe it should be possible gain them other ways than from npc's.
Several monsters do drop gems but sadly it's not balanced vs the need of gems to imbuing.

Most do give 1 to 4 gems, Greather Dragon 16 gems. Lets changes that to 5 x so much and do the same with regs drop, just only 3 x as much. That should count from treasure chest, mining and green thorn drop too. (at least on Siege, normal shards may need the gold sink)

There are plenty of other things for farmers to make a buck off with SA. I bought seeds of renewal today, I have a boura pelt deal pending, There are certain essence that are valuable. Horned and barbed are once again valuable and I will probably be looking to stockpile some of this soon as well.
I have the ability to get almost all these thigns on my own; what I do not have is the time.

I think what make SA so great is, there is so much to do but you can't do it all yourself. I make and sell plant dyes, I get mills from it but I don't have time to alot other crafting. More will find a niche instead of trying to be a multi crafter. That mean all will have to buy what they can't find time to make them self.

Remember when UO was young, there was miners and lumbers everywhere. I would like to see alot that action back.

I agree with you about gem drops on mining but lets leave regs and gems to the npcs; both are items that noone could keep a pace with use.

It's ok to let the npc's keep selling them as long players can sell a little cheaper.
That's because the loot drop is not balanced vs the need. How many mills had you used to buy gems from npc's? If gartheres and PvM players could sell this gem to you, they could make more money and it would balance their risk vs reward and more may play here.

 

[Bruin]

There is no way players framing critters could keep up with demand for gems. if a player wants to sell gems that are incidental grabs from other pvming endeavors, more power to them; I would buy them but that little bit would bea drop int he bucket compared to what i go through. You can very easily burn 100-150 of a gem imbuing the 5th mod onto something.

There are plenty of other things for farmers to makea buck off with SA. I bought seeds of renewal today, I have a boura pelt deal pending, There are certain essence that are valuable. Horned and barbed are once again valuable and I will probably be looking to stockpile some of this soon as well.
I have the ability to get almost all these thigns on my own; what I do not have is the time.

I agree with you about gem drops on mining but lets leave regs and gems to the npcs; both are items that noone could keep a pace with use.

I make most of my gem buying cash while farming up essences and silver; there are better thigns fora player to devote his time to than farming gems. If someone wanted to try thier hand at gem sales they could do it just like we do regs; buy it off an npc and mark up for thier time, effort, and the convenience of being able to grab 200 per at a time.

I'm all for getting resources from other players versus NPCs. Much like with ingots, wood, and cloth here on Siege. I just think it adds to the player run economy much better. Only problem is that these NPCs serve as good gold sinks, and at least with gems they would have to massively increase the amount of gems that drop with monsters/quests. So I'd be all for that (and a large reduction in the amount of gold monsters drop).

 

[Wulf2k]

I'm all for people being able to collect things, but they definitely need more gold sinks like this.

Just think of how much gold gems have sucked up already.