Eh, this will be long, but I figured why post 19 times! haha. Didn't reread or edit anything I said... Except this line
Fyi I used to be a BIG rares collector back in the day. I've since sold off my collection long ago but I still do have an interest in what kind of rares are out there, and the progression of Lykor's museum. I've been on dozens of private tours before on multiple shards, dozens of times.
What benefit? Lykor is a great guy who has as far as I can remember treated me with respect. Unlike others he has yet to talk down upon me and try to make people think I'm this terrible person that some believe I am, and I doubt he ever will. Luckily for him I was the one who looted/insured it. I had no idea whose ring it was as I had about 100+ kills that night easily and wouldn't remember who it came from if I tried but he posted/mentioned it to me directly and it rung a bell. Will I always return items? Nope.
They sure did. But as you said they PK'd the person. Although some people think it was "wrong" that they didn't return the items, but they and noone has to. Everyone will play the game the way they choose to. Wether it's being the good guy, or being the "bad" guy. But really the Felucca facet is there for a reason, to give players the place to be the "bad" guys. UO gives players the ability to insure the bulk of their items used to pvp. Sometimes the "worst" happens & you forgot to insure your items, or you ran out of insurance. It happens to the best of us including MYSELF. I got done imbuing items for my new character the other day & never insured them, it's easy to overlook with all the stuff written in the item property window now. When I realized I lost them I didn't immediatly place blame upon another player whatsoever. I knew it was my own fault, made new weapons & dealt with it rather than parading around making accusations that cannot be proved nor has ever been able to since insurance came out.
As far as my signature goes yes I do mock the whole incident. I had every intention of trying to get some items returned for those players until I decided to read the dozens of ICQs I received that day, and the outcome of some conversations I had. I was accused of being a hacker, cheater, exploiter & scammer in the world of Ultima Online before I even had the chance to log in that day. After even explaining that I was NOT there & had no doing in anything that happened I was still labeled as all of the above. I don't know about you or anyone else who plays this game, but I play this game for entertainment, it's a "hobby" for me. I drive ~70 miles one way to work a day & sometimes as everyone knows work can be a major pain! Maybe it was just one of "those days", but it really hits a nerve when after a long days work that I get time to relax & have fun in this game like we all wish to, that the exact opposite happens. Sure I could have been nicer about things, but I've been nice in the past in similar situations w/ people in similar relations to eachother & things still didn't go "good".
I've had items looted. I've been scammed. I've been harassed in this game. I've had my life threatened dozens of times. I've had my privacy "invaded", and my family members harassed over the internet (Myspace...). I've had not one, not two, not three, four, five or six, but seven characters that I've built since I've played this game looted, and then deleted. I've lost everything & I've restarted. I know how much those things can hurt, I know how much noone else wants to deal with any of it. Yeah my signature is just be being the partial ******* that I am, that will never change. I'm hated in this game, and that will NEVER change, no matter the amount of good I could ever do. I can't change peoples views upon me, nor do I want to. Everyone is their own person & perfectly capable of making their own decision, developing their own feelings & choosing to let the past/present/future along with others influence their judgement towards me. Judge away, I'm not stoping anyone.
Yes I looted the ring. Also, yes I do have the unfluence to encourage my FRIENDS (Not groupies...) to return items. But... There's a reason why people like me as a leader. I'm here to play this game how I want to & so are they. The LAST thing I want to do is tell them how & what they should do in this game. If they want to loot items from other players and we get deemed bad people, than so be it. It's the nature of the game, the intention of the facet (The risk of loss, the "thougher" ruleset, the chance of death). If we're playing the game as intended and others are going to define us as bad people for doing so, than so be it again. We're just playing the game. And yes, I know there's the rumor & accusation going around that it was all done via an exploit. But I can assure (Not that that means anything to most...) everyone that there was not one involved. I've already explained the incident several times on these forums & how things happened to my knowledge. If my guildmates were "cheating" they would tell me, and I 100% know that... But that's getting a bit off topic in a sense.
I'm not here to convince you nor anyone how good of a person I am. But stop trying to judge me as a person, because you nor does anyone really know me as the person I am, but as the player I am. Yeah it's corny, but true. Also there isn't "many" items I've looted from players that I have not returned. There's been at least a dozen times I've returned full suits, and there will be more. But for a person like me deemed dirtier than the dirt he walks on, "good deeds" are overlooked a LOT easier than the bad ones. I'm not trying to use the fact that I do return things to make myself look better either. Also, yes, I have kept items. Infact I heard someone quit the game because I kept someones entire set of bows they PvPed with at one point. Unfortunatly for that person he went too far with his own actions in the past directly towards me. Sucks to be him, just like it sucked to have some dude making fun of my 7 year old brother because of how hard his childhood was at the time. I guess I told a friend something I shouldn't have. I've since learned to keep some things to myself, even if I feel I have a friend I can talk to.
Sounds good. But I'm not out to fool anyone. I'm just me. You'll never know what I'm going to do or say next, and neither will I!
True to an extent. If I like you you WILL get your stuff back, if not your stuff, it'll be replaced. If I don't like you, I'm not saying there isn't any chance, but I'm also not saying there is. Hard to understand. But there's more than like & dislike, I don't judge the majority of players in this game as I have no reason to. I'm very neutral towards the majority.
Already covered this, but you're wrong. No other reasons, no other motives. I just like the way Lykor has treated me despite what others have tried to drill into his head about me, and decided I should return the gesture. Lykor may be a rich guy in ultima, but oh boy, so am I.
Thanks Pitr. Means something that you do know the difference between player & person. I feel people forget there is at times.
Thanks. Good to see you also arn't thinking of myself as the player I "play", so disreguard what I said about that earlier! I don't feel like scrolling up to find/edit it haha.
But I feel I'm a great person IRL. My job requires me to work with the military of our country (For those in the US). We design, prototype & manufacture various forms of parts & equipment used for simple training, out to protecting our soldiers in the field. I love my job at times! This year I also donated "toys" to "toys for tots" to our local state troopers. A friend of mine wanted to do it, so I did. She's happy & I hope whoever get's em are too. Enough of that though. I'm sure I'll get made fun of for that ingame over the next few days! haha.
Me too
Both went from enemies to friends. LC was pretty cool. Fudd ended up being a guildy before he quit. They both taught me a little of what I am today.
