Hey TNT, Please Read!

[Elmer Fudd]

This is only for Elmer Fudd and my characters...

I came back to play and have fun, im choosing to fight and Pk old school style, I have given everybodys factions items back no matter who they were EXCEPT!!!! Diablo guy....lol and we all know why....

If you want to sell me my items back, then just toss them, and I will toss yours, if you give me mine back, Ill give yours back,,,

JSV has given me every item I have ever lost to them and me to them, Elvis has always done the same

So Far I think
Nixon
Davy
Nadal
Virgil

have tossed my items, so Ill do the same to yours, by no means am I upset or care I understand completly and am cool about it, i just want to make sure I have the right people figured out thats all....

I dont need to turn this into a board war thing, thats not the intent...its soley to let you know my intent, not my guilds....thanks for everything and it was a good time......

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

Elmer I think you missed a lot of the recent faction gear discussions. It works mostly on a buy-back system now. They have to pay for their stuff, so they ask the same in return.

I was in vent when this all went down and I heard no talk of trashing your gear. I think some have boxed it in case you change your mind.

 

[Mook Chessy]

Was alot of fun!

No pets, hiding or tele on the wall. (well... little hiding, nadal's bola on BO was sweet)

Regarding your gear, I understand and wish everyone felt as you do, sadly they dont.

I will keep what I looted and if and when you kill me we can have a nice give back session!

Welcome back!

On a side note!
The Siege Bowl.

Tibs...Bama +5
RP... Fla

Purse 5 million!!!

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Elmer I think you missed a lot of the recent faction gear discussions. It works mostly on a buy-back system now. They have to pay for their stuff, so they ask the same in return.

I was in vent when this all went down and I heard no talk of trashing your gear. I think some have boxed it in case you change your mind.

No, its ok, I work differently then everyone else and always have, thats my style....I have always given everyone there items back for nothing, just the way I am, I have been screwed before and not been treated the same, and BTW it was always a tnt that scerewed me....lol funny huh...

I actually have some items of these folks also laying around my house before I left, I just want to make sure they wouldnt want to reconsider, cause if they put em on a vendor...please trash them, i will never buy my faction gear back...and i will trash there items also....

Im in no way mad or upset....just play my game different...thanks for trying to help....but no, if they want gold from me, then trash em

 

[Albertus]

No, its ok, I work differently then everyone else and always have, thats my style....I have always given everyone there items back for nothing, just the way I am, I have been screwed before and not been treated the same, and BTW it was always a tnt that scerewed me....lol funny huh...

I actually have some items of these folks also laying around my house before I left, I just want to make sure they wouldnt want to reconsider, cause if they put em on a vendor...please trash them, i will never buy my faction gear back...and i will trash there items also....

Im in no way mad or upset....just play my game different...thanks for trying to help....but no, if they want gold from me, then trash em

Hey Fud, nice to see you back in the action. Sorry about the gank last night. lol I was on my PvM template.

Anyways, I will put your faction gear in my vendor just 3 screens from the Homare moongate. Right next to road. "Albertus Buyback"

I will see you tonight for more action.

 

[Tiberius]

Was alot of fun!

No pets, hiding or tele on the wall. (well... little hiding, nadal's bola on BO was sweet)

Regarding your gear, I understand and wish everyone felt as you do, sadly they dont.

I will keep what I looted and if and when you kill me we can have a nice give back session!

Welcome back!

On a side note!
The Siege Bowl.


Tibs...Bama +5
RP... Fla

Purse 5 million!!!

Ahh so you are gonna give me the 5. Was not sure, woulda taken it w/o out. Sparts the one that told me to ask ya about the line rofl..I knew what a
bookie was when I was 9.

 

[Tiberius]

Hey Fud, nice to see you back in the action. Sorry about the gank last night. lol I was on my PvM template.

Anyways, I will put your faction gear in my vendor just 3 screens from the Homare moongate. Right next to road. "Albertus Buyback"

I will see you tonight for more action.

Albertus, i have two items of Sir Morder's that i will trade ya for some of elmers suit.

 

[Sir Morder]

Albertus, i have two items of Sir Morder's that i will trade ya for some of elmers suit.

Pic's! I wanna see pic's!! J/K'n Tib's...you know my style. Musta been my pathetic attempt in despise thee other day. If no trade is made, lemme know where the vendor is

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Hey Fud, nice to see you back in the action. Sorry about the gank last night. lol I was on my PvM template.

Anyways, I will put your faction gear in my vendor just 3 screens from the Homare moongate. Right next to road. "Albertus Buyback"

I will see you tonight for more action.

Yea, wish I didnt have to fight so many and a gank, and thanks for the welcome back...please read my post above, if you are going to sell my items back, then just trash them, I wont ever pay gold for my items, just understand, I will put your name in my Little Black Trash Book also.....lol

Was still fun, wish It didnt have to be a gank, i was already fighting a dragon and You, but hey, you do what you have to do....glad to be back in the ring....

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Was alot of fun!

No pets, hiding or tele on the wall. (well... little hiding, nadal's bola on BO was sweet)

Regarding your gear, I understand and wish everyone felt as you do, sadly they dont.

I will keep what I looted and if and when you kill me we can have a nice give back session!

Welcome back!

On a side note!
The Siege Bowl.

Tibs...Bama +5
RP... Fla

Purse 5 million!!!

Sweet, thanks cool of ya man, im game for that...what do you have of mine just curious...and your Virgil Stark character right? and whats yer other characters so I know, i wouldnt want to throw something away I shouldnt...See this is very stand up of you bro....thanks...Glad to be back in the Ring, still getting the bugs out...lol

 

[Mook Chessy]

Sweet, thanks cool of ya man, im game for that...what do you have of mine just curious...and your Virgil Stark character right? and whats yer other characters so I know, i wouldnt want to throw something away I shouldnt...See this is very stand up of you bro....thanks...Glad to be back in the Ring, still getting the bugs out...lol

Just GG cinture...

 

[Amanda Shade]

Elmer, I am not trashing any of your stuff. I just know that everytime I lose a suit I end up buying it all back. Somehow the people that say they give back never end up with my stuff. (there are a couple of notable exceptions)

When you have some of my stuff, I will trade for what I have of yours. I have lots of storage space so it isn't a concern...

If you would rather trash my stuff then hold on to it, then that is your perogative. But I will not trash your stuff.

You could make this alot easier by just buying and selling like everybody else does. Makes things alot cleaner...

 

[Davy]

Your gmates have ur stuff. I will do the same as the others i will hold onto what i get tell u get something of mine then we can swap would deff be easier if you would just do like the rest of us lol.

 

[Tiberius]

Pic's! I wanna see pic's!! J/K'n Tib's...you know my style. Musta been my pathetic attempt in despise thee other day. If no trade is made, lemme know where the vendor is

I will give it back; your crew has given back my whole suit a couple times.
I figure I need to maintain goodwill more than I need a measly 150k.

P.m. me witha meet up spot.

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Your gmates have ur stuff. I will do the same as the others i will hold onto what i get tell u get something of mine then we can swap would deff be easier if you would just do like the rest of us lol.

If its to complicated....just trash it.....thats easy enough isnt it? I think the trash timer stayed the same with the new patch didnt it?

I Will Never buy my suits with gold....its not complicated, like shadow spawn and JSV and dozens of more people.,..see this is how it works from my end

Send a PM---> "Hey Mr Smith thanks for the fights, was fun, I have your gear at my castle come pic it up, I will meet you there at 5PM central time, you almost had me to, hope we can have more good fights like that again, thanks Fudd"

Now insert anyname you choose...lol

Boy thats complicated, I have been doing it since faction gear has been out, and I have never had anyone miss there appointment time either....

This game of combat has turned from skill/Honor and Fun to an exersise in unadultrated Greed...(Hence the Gank)

My 0.2 cents, I think it's whats tearing the Pvp down at its Roots, that is strickly my opinion, and I drive My pk ship however I choose, no one will impose there beliefs on me either.

 

[Amanda Shade]

If its to complicated....just trash it.....thats easy enough isnt it? I think the trash timer stayed the same with the new patch didnt it?

I Will Never buy my suits with gold....its not complicated, like shadow spawn and JSV and dozens of more people.,..see this is how it works from my end

Send a PM---> "Hey Mr Smith thanks for the fights, was fun, I have your gear at my castle come pic it up, I will meet you there at 5PM central time, you almost had me to, hope we can have more good fights like that again, thanks Fudd"

Now insert anyname you choose...lol

Boy thats complicated, I have been doing it since faction gear has been out, and I have never had anyone miss there appointment time either....

This game of combat has turned from skill/Honor and Fun to an exersise in unadultrated Greed...(Hence the Gank)

My 0.2 cents, I think it's whats tearing the Pvp down at its Roots, that is strickly my opinion, and I drive My pk ship however I choose, no one will impose there beliefs on me either.

The only problem with that paragraph above...you were not trash talking like you have been doing non stop in game since you got back. I mean honestly, everybody here I think knows what kind of a person I am.

I don't trash talk, I sell back peoples stuff ASAP so they do not have to go farm. I pretty much always treat people with respect in game and out.

And then you log on for the first time in months and start flinging insults. I am sorry, I have a hard time being friendly with somebody that does that.

 

[Elmer Fudd]

The only problem with that paragraph above...you were not trash talking like you have been doing non stop in game since you got back. I mean honestly, everybody here I think knows what kind of a person I am.

I don't trash talk, I sell back peoples stuff ASAP so they do not have to go farm. I pretty much always treat people with respect in game and out.

And then you log on for the first time in months and start flinging insults. I am sorry, I have a hard time being friendly with somebody that does that.

I didnt fling any insults at all Amanda, everyone knows your a bit of a drama queen and very ultra sensitive, so please dont make something up just to suit your argument...do what you want with my gear, I could care less, Its easier for me to trash TnT gear anyway, you guys have always been the most difficult to deal with anyways besides Elvis and a couple others, but I wont hold INDIVIDUALS Guilty for the sins of many to say the least,

If I call people stealthing cowards in game and then Type a "lol" behind it and say off with your heads...lol and stuff like that...AMANDA its all in good fun man, lighten up dude, your wound way to tight,

your to tiring to deal with sometimes, do what you want, i dont recieve my gear back....SO WHAT!! I throw your gear away....its no big deal man, its a game.....im mearly stateting what I do with gear thats all...

Cya in the field for more

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

The best solution would be to take the names off faction gear and make it all just faction specific. Then all gear could be sold to anyone from the faction it was originally sold to. Much simpler.

 

[Elmer Fudd]

The best solution would be to take the names off faction gear and make it all just faction specific. Then all gear could be sold to anyone from the faction it was originally sold to. Much simpler.

I have always done people right with faction gear in this game, its no secret, TnT is always a knighmare to deal with, for the most part, there are a few that are good to work with and I always treat them with respect and the same...

the system set up with gear being account bound is what we have to work with, if someone needs resources and jewels and such, by all means, help yourself...but gear that is account bound that you cant use....get people back out on the field and keep em fighting quick, there already out of the fight game for 20 anyways.....

now its just plain Oll greed IMHO!! and griefing to hold onto to it forever, I rather you just trash it, i will have farmed up a new suit by then anyways and have already started trashing there gear....

So you do whats in your heart and Ill do whats in my heart, if gold is whats on your mind, thats your god given right, but im trying to be helpful and tell anyone and everyone, I will Never EVER pay one gold piece for my gear, so if you dont want a free trade back policy with me, then trash it, I Dont care....

Lets have some Fun fights and Sorry Amanda for hurting your feelings again and again and again, i will try and be more sensitive when dealing with you ok bro?

 

[Amanda Shade]

I have always done people right with faction gear in this game, its no secret, TnT is always a knighmare to deal with, for the most part, there are a few that are good to work with and I always treat them with respect and the same...

I challenge one person to quote a time where they had difficulty buying stuff back from me. I almost always have the gear up before their stat is up, and it is always at the common going rate. I even sold back to MD when everybody was telling me not to (because they contained Diablo and the like). I did this so that people would never have an excuse to trash my gear because I didn't treat them fair.

Elmer, you can trash if that is what you feel you must do. But don't try to portray TnT in a bad light because we dont want to just give your stuff back. You are not in vent with them, I am. You do not know of what you speak.

*done*

 

[Mook Chessy]

Fudd, go easy on the TNT faction gear thing! You where guilded with BIG D who was the very first to screw up buybacks.

I am very happy that you have the free time to farm silver, I for one prefer to farm gold and buy back.

I feel my way is the fastest to get back on the field and back into the fight.

Until next time!

 

[Shakaja]

********. why not just have prodo insurance, would save you the trouble of kindergardenarguments every few days. or just make them blessed. poor old luna trashcan must be so hungry...

 

[Sprago]

Fudd, go easy on the TNT faction gear thing! You where guilded with BIG D who was the very first to screw up buybacks.

I am very happy that you have the free time to farm silver, I for one prefer to farm gold and buy back.

I feel my way is the fastest to get back on the field and back into the fight.

Until next time!

im sorry but what does being guilded with big D have anything to do with anything i was guilded with him at that time and actually big d was in LOW at the time and i dont think elmer ever was

but not the point back on topic i really think all these posts about faction armor is pointless i my self have about 5-10 full suits out there ill buy em if i see em on a vendor but i dont stress on it ill continue to farm silver so that i can personally garuantee that i run with what i need to run with so should everyone else in this shard.

 

[Tiberius]

I prefer to buyback and sell back as well. Mainly because I can afford to now. I do think the buybuy/sell back makes pvp revolve too much around making a buck but that was somewhat of a problem with faction dyed cursed arties as well.

IMO, respectful, prompt sell backs are the most efficient way to get people back on the field. Honestly I'd say give a gank victims suit back rather than charging them for it. Do the sell back or trade back in the case of nice fairly even field fights like we had last night with TNT or the other night with JSV in despise. I just do not care to farm silver for my suit.

On a different note; if they would make DCI and hci a craftable property on armour and just nix the faction arties it would slove alot on siege. I would love to see this added as a siege only type thign and maybe even low the reqs. needed to aquire relic frags. It would bea big boost for the crafting, pvp, and pvm communitites imo.

 

[Sprago]

Personally i wish they would allow us to unravel faction arties that would eliminate all these faction arty threads.

 

[Kat]

Personally i wish they would allow us to unravel faction arties that would eliminate all these faction arty threads.

All that would do is inspire a record setting number of cryers and bitchers over faction arties, once the NON factioners start looting in every battle. No, thanks. There is enough pissing and moaning as it is. =/

 

[Essence of Siege]

All that would do is inspire a record setting number of cryers and bitchers over faction arties, once the NON factioners start looting in every battle. No, thanks. There is enough pissing and moaning as it is. =/

Why aren't non-factioneers looting now then? If you can make money by selling back?

 

[Kat]

All that would do is inspire a record setting number of cryers and bitchers over faction arties, once the NON factioners start looting in every battle. No, thanks. There is enough pissing and moaning as it is. =/

Why aren't non-factioneers looting now then? If you can make money by selling back?

Well, first of all I'm not certain some haven't been looting. That may very well explain why so many complain about missing suits or pieces that are missing. Non factioners are almost always on the field and its impossible to tell who's looting what. Otherwise, I would imagine it may be because its a d-bag thing to do. They would likely be ripped on and flamed right out of this forum after looting someone elses kill and then coming here to post that they are selling the items back! Also, with the exception of a select few, most folks would probably like to keep their good reputations in tact, whereas if they could take it home, unravel the items and no one ever had to know about it and/or no one could prove it, you can bet your sweet tushie that very few would have a problem with doing it.

Bleh.. I just think its a horrible idea.

 

[Tjalle]

All that would do is inspire a record setting number of cryers and bitchers over faction arties, once the NON factioners start looting in every battle. No, thanks. There is enough pissing and moaning as it is. =/

I would be one of those non-factioners looting (when the opportunity arose, that is) to imbue for relics if that were the case.

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Personally i wish they would allow us to unravel faction arties that would eliminate all these faction arty threads.

Hey Sprago, I found out later that you left SP before I was able to check my old stash of gear, I have a good number of your faction gear at the castle, i will put it in a bag and give it to you, just let me know when you can come grab it man.....

P.S. I threw in a Crimmy of Neos that I had, So if any TnT want to pick it up for Sprago and Neo is cool to,..Sprago I have two High Ticket Items of yours, Glasses and a Cristiline Ring 50k silver worth, let me know fellas....its good to be back...lol

 

[Elmer Fudd]

Fudd, go easy on the TNT faction gear thing! You where guilded with BIG D who was the very first to screw up buybacks.

I am very happy that you have the free time to farm silver, I for one prefer to farm gold and buy back.

I feel my way is the fastest to get back on the field and back into the fight.

Until next time!

Thats cool, Ive already said, i hold it against NOBODY that chooses to sell and stuff like that, I choose of my own free will to GIVE BACK TO EVERYONE! it get people back out there fighting quick and I am a Die hard player for fights...not gold!

Mook, I have given you your stuff back for free before and will continue to you, you have always done me right. and I hold nothing against the few that are in TnT that arnt a pain in the ass to deal with....lol

I just love the fights thats all.....

 

[Tiberius]

Well, first of all I'm not certain some haven't been looting. That may very well explain why so many complain about missing suits or pieces that are missing. Non factioners are almost always on the field and its impossible to tell who's looting what. Otherwise, I would imagine it may be because its a d-bag thing to do. They would likely be ripped on and flamed right out of this forum after looting someone elses kill and then coming here to post that they are selling the items back! Also, with the exception of a select few, most folks would probably like to keep their good reputations in tact, whereas if they could take it home, unravel the items and no one ever had to know about it and/or no one could prove it, you can bet your sweet tushie that very few would have a problem with doing it.

Bleh.. I just think its a horrible idea.

Not a flame but TNT does have a couple faction players who do the exact same thing you say is a dirt bag thing to do; wait for JSV to kill us then loot our corpse or vice versa. That said, I agree, I do not think unraveling faction arties would be good idea; at least right now the "dirt bag behavior" still allows for recovery of your items. All the non-factioners who have gotten ahold of my stuff have always sold back to date. Another thing is half the time the "non-factioner" is somehow affiliated with one of the faction groups.

 

[Sprago]

All that would do is inspire a record setting number of cryers and bitchers over faction arties, once the NON factioners start looting in every battle. No, thanks. There is enough pissing and moaning as it is. =/

i agree it would get people pissin and moanin about it but it goes back to the saying "if cant afford to loose it, dont wear it"

no imo what it would come down to is the ones willing to put in the time would wear faction gear and the ones not willing to would be wearing imbued gear

that and the high end faction items are still gonna be sold back there worth more then the relics are.

well thats my thoughts about it

but again i do agree with you it would **** lots of people off but hey faction gear already pisses lots of people of anyway, right?