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Gargoyals...

kelmo

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A rare breed on Siege?
 

Patty Pickaxe

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Should have made a poll, Kelmo!! Then we could have discussed it until we get pissed (still love that line!)

Patty will remain human. I have an image to uphold! :p
 

IanJames

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I am debating converting ONE of my characters who happens to be a crafter. I'm not looking forward to training another skill though
 

Speedy Orkit

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No way. Played one on TC, far inferior in every aspect, except as maybe a PvP tamer.
 
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Sweeney

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Yeah unless you're a tamer they aren't so special. Of course there are some gargoyle only areas of Ter Mur.
 

kelmo

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Gargoyals can move at mounted speed with out taking up a slot... I think that is one of the benefits.
 

Tiberius

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Gargoyals can move at mounted speed with out taking up a slot... I think that is one of the benefits.
Oh I see full mage tamer, able to do the mounted speed mage thing with a greater at his disposal....
 
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Mr X

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Ring of the vile 6 stam regen. New gimplate here we come! And gargoyles get 4 jewel slots so ya they can have max casting very easy. Ring of the vile, orny, etc etc.
 

Mr.StinkyPants

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so every old weapon i tried the gargoyle cant use whats up with that!!!!! i would love to be a gargoyle but my roxxer weapons wont fit in his huge gargoyley hands.:wall:
 

QueenZen

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Should have made a poll, Kelmo!! Then we could have discussed it until we get pissed (still love that line!)

Patty will remain human. I have an image to uphold! :p
Precisely...I mean can a gargy wear a cute floppy hat and look cute and petite at the same time.............. ? I THINK NOT !! I do not plan on lookin like some steroidy dude with wings in a floppy hat, that flys ! UGH !!
 

Wulf2k

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And gargoyles get 4 jewel slots so ya they can have max casting very easy. Ring of the vile, orny, etc etc.
So, 60% HCI/DCI from jewels alone?

Or is there more to the story?
 
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Bruin

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WAIT...

WHAT?!?
+1...seriously they get 4 jewel slots? The only good thing about that....

blessed 0/2 10 DCI spellbook+
1/2 w/10 DCI jewel
1/0 w/10 DCI jewel
0/2 w/10 DCI jewel
10 DCI jewel

Very easy to acquire so it would be very easy to run a 50+ DCI mage without having to resort to faction items or expensive HOTL/Fey Leggings...
 

Wulf2k

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So, they have an extra neck and ear slot?

Or the neck and ear jewels with mods will be garg only?
 
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Sweeney

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So, they have an extra neck and ear slot?

Or the neck and ear jewels with mods will be garg only?
Neck and ears with mods will be gargoyle only, or rather imbued neck and ears are gargoyle only.
 
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Mr X

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They have 4 jewelry slots however they cannot wear gloves or hats. My biggest concern is unlike ninja forms, where you have mounted speed, you will be able to cast spells with mounted speed and a GD in tow. Also most of the gargoyle spells go against the targets resist. These include damage spells. So start training up your magic resist if you do not feel like getting owned by gargoyle mages. Oh ya and they have this nifty spell where they can store a spell, sort of like a scroll, except it is instant cast.....that should be fun. It has a 5 minute cooldown, but that just means you wait in your house in between instant death spell ability. And no words of power just double click it and click target, I am sure you can make a macro. Just label it "instant death macro."

Its going to be a brave new world for gimplates and a new round of this game sucks I am quitting forever.
 
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Sweeney

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They have 4 jewelry slots however they cannot wear gloves or hats. My biggest concern is unlike ninja forms, where you have mounted speed, you will be able to cast spells with mounted speed and a GD in tow. Also most of the gargoyle spells go against the targets resist. These include damage spells. So start training up your magic resist if you do not feel like getting owned by gargoyle mages. Oh ya and they have this nifty spell where they can store a spell, sort of like a scroll, except it is instant cast.....that should be fun. It has a 5 minute cooldown, but that just means you wait in your house in between instant death spell ability. And no words of power just double click it and click target, I am sure you can make a macro. Just label it "instant death macro."

Its going to be a brave new world for gimplates and a new round of this game sucks I am quitting forever.
Mysticism is gargoyle only too? Serves me right only testing with a gargoyle.
 
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Mr X

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I don't believe it is gargoyle only, but I do think they get certain racial bonuses like elves and humans do.
 
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Alexi

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Pretty sure that devs said ring/bracelet would be the only parts with the normal jewelry mods. Necklaces will receive gorget-type mods etc.
 

Draxous

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No, I will not change my chars to a gargoyle. If they give us a 2nd char slot... then yes I'll MAKE one, but hell to the no if they don't.
 

Mr.StinkyPants

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well why the f dont they have night sight dont they only come out at night??? and can they only hold garg weapons? and wasnt only elves supposed to do spellweaving.....
 

Kael

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I thought I read that earrings wouldn't be allowed skill bonuses or anything that a normal helm couldn't be imbue with
 

Petra Fyde

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Sorry, doesn't work like that, necklace and earrings will have armor mods.
Flying is nifty, but a regular pain, without good stamina regen you're out of stamina in about a screen and a half.
regular weapons can be 'converted' to a gargoyle equivelant.
The team *have* done their best to keep things balanced, don't judge whether they're overpowered or not till you're in possession of *all* the facts instead of just a few of them.
 

Uvtha

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Sorry, doesn't work like that, necklace and earrings will have armor mods.
Flying is nifty, but a regular pain, without good stamina regen you're out of stamina in about a screen and a half.
regular weapons can be 'converted' to a gargoyle equivelant.
The team *have* done their best to keep things balanced, don't judge whether they're overpowered or not till you're in possession of *all* the facts instead of just a few of them.
The real question is will there be garg necklace and earrings with non imbued resists, like a gorge or helm? If not, AND they can't have jewelry slots then gargoyles will be pretty dang hard to keep alive.

I for one think it was idiotic of them to not just keep all the slots the same. Gargoyles can't convert a lot of useful stuff, and I really see them at being at an inherent disadvantage gear wise alone. But we shall see.

To me it seems like they will only excel in crafting and in tamer related flying gimpery. Otherwise I see no reason to not be elf or human.
 

Petra Fyde

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tbh I'm in two minds, I'd only have one for the imbuing success bonus, and I'm not entirely sure it's worth it.
 

Touzoko

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yeah, but in all honesty, if they smell like the orcs do, nothing they have will be worth it.
 
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When flying it doesn't take up a follower slot. But on the downside you need 6-8 stamina regen, which is 4 equipment mods wasted just to survive.
Are gargoyles able to use necromancy? If you were in Vamp form, that would give you the regen to keep up, no?
 
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run some focus and be pretty much dismount proof?
From what I understand [someone correct me if I'm wrong] but you can be dismounted out of flying just like on horse/form.

So not dismount proof. And there's a delay to fly, just like mounting an ethereal horse.
 
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From what I understand [someone correct me if I'm wrong] but you can be dismounted out of flying just like on horse/form.

So not dismount proof. And there's a delay to fly, just like mounting an ethereal horse.
Really? Dismounted out of the air?:lol:
 

Petra Fyde

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That is correct, they can be grounded by using dismount.
There is an option in the craft menu to convert weapons to a gargoyle equivelant I believe, however they don't have the same number of weapons so it's possible it may not be an exact conversion in terms of weapon speed etc.
I will do some testing on this aspect and, nda permitting, get back to you on it.
 

Mook Chessy

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I am looking forward to the release, find out what the devs forgot to think of and exploit it!

Then when you get everything right they will nerf it!

Does anyone remember when Necro came out (double strike + pain spike = dead) nerfed

Spellweaving (any damage + wod = death) nerfed

I'm sure this expansion will be way overpowered in some way shape or form ( to ensure the purchase of it) then when 75% of the char are running it they will nerf it to zilch...lol!

I plan to sit back and watch and see what happens then make changes, I hated making all my toons Elves only to loath changing them all back! (save my tamer)

Either way I'm sure it will give the player base alot to talk about!!!
 
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