I have understood that Stygian Abyss is an "expansion" of KR client. But 2D is supported. What it means? Uoassist still works with 2D Stygian Abyss?
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I can't imagine that it wouldn't?I have understood that Stygian Abyss is an "expansion" of KR client. But 2D is supported. What it means? Uoassist still works with 2D Stygian Abyss?
Thanks!
Macro commands, mousewheel button support, showing hci/dci etc, I'm sure I'm forgetting things.There's nothing that needs changing in the 2D client. It's already perfect.
Ah.I believe there was a plan to add 'make number' and 'make all' to the crafting menus. Is that shelved or deferred?
None of this is needed.Macro commands, mousewheel button support, showing hci/dci etc, I'm sure I'm forgetting things.
No, but what is needed is some way to break unofficial 3rd party support. OH, and maybe some of the bugs, like the recall crash bug that comes to mind. OH, and maybe support for large wide screens and higher resolution.None of this is needed.
Play Siege and you will never have that crash problem again...laOH, and maybe some of the bugs, like the recall crash bug that comes to mind.
Sorry Draconi but i understand english not very well.No changes to the 2D client, just the usual new monsters and terrain
That will be needed for all clients, not just 2D.No, but what is needed is some way to break unofficial 3rd party support.
Agreed.OH, and maybe some of the bugs, like the recall crash bug that comes to mind.
Agreed again. I play, or have tried to play, UO on my 52' flat screen and it doesn't look good at all. That's 2D and KR though. I have tried it with both.OH, and maybe support for large wide screens and higher resolution.
KR looks great on my 22" wide screen, but the 2D is horrible in windowed mode, and leaves large useless areas on either side in the full screen mode. I believe it was mentioned that this is going to be fixed with SA....
Agreed again. I play, or have tried to play, UO on my 52' flat screen and it doesn't look good at all. That's 2D and KR though. I have tried it with both.
Agreed completely.Hopefully before the client goes live? Very few crafters use 2D for crafting without the benefit of UOA fulfilling exactly those two functions. Clicking 'make last' for any length of time is not conducive to good health.
So if i am understanding correctly SA client (the replacement for kr) will NOT have the current KR crafting menu losing the make number option? if so this is a bad bad bad idea in my opinion! this is one of the main selling reasons of kr for me losing these functions will lose a lot of the interest in this client for me!Hopefully before the client goes live? Very few crafters use 2D for crafting without the benefit of UOA fulfilling exactly those two functions. Clicking 'make last' for any length of time is not conducive to good health.
Ah, sorry, let me clarify: at this very instant it doesn't, but we're planning to have it in for both Legacy and SA by launch.So if i am understanding correctly SA client (the replacement for kr) will NOT have the current KR crafting menu losing the make number option? if so this is a bad bad bad idea in my opinion! this is one of the main selling reasons of kr for me losing these functions will lose a lot of the interest in this client for me!
sure I will try it but I think alot of people will feel this way!
Thank god for uo assist
Heh... gotta watch your wording here in UHall.Ah, sorry, let me clarify: at this very instant it doesn't, but we're planning to have it in for both Legacy and SA by launch.
oh thank you for clarifying that I was almost getting to panic mode lolAh, sorry, let me clarify: at this very instant it doesn't, but we're planning to have it in for both Legacy and SA by launch.
I can't imagine that it wouldn't?
The expansion itself is purely game systems and content. The updated SA client (replacing KR) is coming out at around the same time.
We've been polishing the expansion for both, since the expansion supports both graphic modes. No changes to the 2D client, just the usual new monsters and terrain
Awesome. ThanksAh, sorry, let me clarify: at this very instant it doesn't, but we're planning to have it in for both Legacy and SA by launch.
For me, since I already paid for it, I don't mind that I still use it. That being said, there are things UOA provides that KR doesn't. My fav is the ability to pick up regs off the ground with a single click of the macro key...laI'm happy that finally I won't need UO Assist anymore...
Ah, sorry, let me clarify: at this very instant it doesn't, but we're planning to have it in for both Legacy and SA by launch.
Amen! LOL Ahhhh, the good old days.......KR looks great on my 22" wide screen, but the 2D is horrible in windowed mode, and leaves large useless areas on either side in the full screen mode. I believe it was mentioned that this is going to be fixed with SA.
Funny thing is, my 22" wide screen costs about half of what my first 13" paper-white monitor that I played UO on in '97.
*Listen young adventurers while I tell you about the time I had to drag my computer 5 kilometers to Brit and back, UP hill both ways! You didn't have no stinkin' packy mules to help neither, and nobody never heard of golems to beat of for some silly skill gain. And gold! Got me 12 gold from a mongbat once after it half killed me, and I was glad... GLAD I am telling you to get that! And DRAGONS... now, they was somethin' to be a-feared of! You young dexxers nowadays are some spoiled kids, getting a 1,000 gold for killin' some stinking easy critter. You don't know how easy you's got it now.*
*kicks a rock of black coal*
Lets see....There's nothing that needs changing in the 2D client. It's already perfect.
Thank you for the clarification.Ah, sorry, let me clarify: at this very instant it doesn't, but we're planning to have it in for both Legacy and SA by launch.
I really like the 2D graphics. Old does not mean crappy. New does not mean awesome.Lets see....
cheats
scripts
sh!tty 1997 graphics (get with the 21st century please)
usable macro system
have to run 2 other programs (UOA and UOAM) to get functionality.
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Yes, I guess it is perfect.
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KR will have cheats.Lets see....
cheats
scripts
sh!tty 1997 graphics (get with the 21st century please)
usable macro system
have to run 2 other programs (UOA and UOAM) to get functionality.
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Yes, I guess it is perfect.
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Petra it's ok. Now i've understoodIvory, there are 2 new things. The SA client, which will replace KR is the first.
The second is the Stygian Abyss expansion, which will be like Samurai Empire and Mondains Legacy - bringing new lands, new skills and new items to explore. You will be able to go there using the 2D client just the same as you can now go to Tokuno or the ML dungeons.
My point is that 2d has had 12 years to get where its at.
Everyone dismisses KR/SA after a few days/weeks. Imagine 12 years of KR/SA. I guarantee it would be 100% better than 2d ever could be.
And yes, I play 2d but Im not going to be so adamant about keeping it around. Its time for everyone to move on or we are always going to be left behind.
Draconi. I hope the new client is PvP friendly. Currently the KR client doesn't have a target next combo. It does have target next hostile and friendly, but in a pvp environment, everything isn't just blue and red.I can't imagine that it wouldn't?
The expansion itself is purely game systems and content. The updated SA client (replacing KR) is coming out at around the same time.
As far as the weapon macro, it's only a single key in KR, and almost instantaneous. Worried about switching from two handed to one handed weapon? Make sure you put in a command to remove anything from both hands first. Easy as pie and a single key for every weapon. PM me if you need help with that.Draconi. I hope the new client is PvP friendly. Currently the KR client doesn't have a target next combo. It does have target next hostile and friendly, but in a pvp environment, everything isn't just blue and red.
I would like to see a better macro setting for weapons, where I don't have to use a 2-3 key macro to swap weapons. It would be nice to switch out weapons as a mage casting various spells.
Kingdom Reborn launched almost 2 years ago. That has been plenty of time. There were just a lot of bad decisions made. Draconi went over one recently with the radar and mapping system. Another was the crafting menus which had to be completely redone after launch.My point is that 2d has had 12 years to get where its at.
Everyone dismisses KR/SA after a few days/weeks. Imagine 12 years of KR/SA. I guarantee it would be 100% better than 2d ever could be.
2d was far from perfect 2 years after launch. And it still is.Kingdom Reborn launched almost 2 years ago. That has been plenty of time. There were just a lot of bad decisions made. Draconi went over one recently with the radar and mapping system. Another was the crafting menus which had to be completely redone after launch.
Not sure about KR, but I do know that WoW has script tools as well. It took me about 5 minutes just now to find a tool that lets you afk all the way up to level 80. If they can do it there, and they can, I don't get why people think they won't be able to do it with KR or SA if they needed to.If you're a staunch 2d only, I"ll never play anything else yada yada yada, it is my PERSONAL OPINION, that you are an xxxxUO user, and you're only saying this because it only works with 2d. You can chime in and deny it all you want, but everyone that reads these boards knows fully well why you don't want to move away from 2d. If the programmers at xxxxUO somehow figured out how to get their illegal program to work with KR/SA, you would all be dropping 2d like a hot rock, and you know it. Enough already....yes I used to knock KR, but only because it was literally unplayable for me...that's the only reason.
That was still a lot of time wasted. The original menu was gigantic, yet showed almost no information. It had big buttons with no text telling you what they did. You could only see a very limited number of options and had to scroll with a small interface. It was just a giant step backwards from 2D. The new menu is better.The radar map, yeah, that was bad, however the crafting menus as they are RIGHT NOW in KR are one of its best aspects (blows the 2d system out of the water).
That move happened 6 months after Kingdom Reborn launched. The release was a total disaster. The expansion was put off indefinitely and the team was rushing out patch after patch to fix client bugs. The client clearly was not ready for launch, with even the most vehment KR supporters still calling it a "beta". However that does not discount it was live and being mass rejected by players. So business took over and the team was shipped off to Mythic.You are forgetting that aside from updating BOTH clients for scenario stuff there has NOT been ANY significant work on KR done in over a year due to the move from CA to VA and the change in the dev team makeup.
Do I really need to try and dig up a screenshot of the original menu? I think I have it somewhere. It was akin going from a touch-tone telephone back to a rotary.SF is correct and you (as usual) JC leave out pertinent information to make your argument against him (not to mention just being outright wrong on one aspect (the crafting menu)).
I feel ya. Personally, I have much more respect for people when they say things like "such and such client is better because...." as opposed to "you just hold onto 2D because you want to be able to cheat"....
I have stayed away from the 2d = you just want to use a cheat program argument because I do not think that it in anyway bolsters the KR argument in the least. On this you're correct D'Amavir, if KR were the main client, it would have exploit programs to go with it before long (as would/will SA for that matter), so to me it has always been a moot point and one I disagree with other KR users about.
My stance is on a more philosophical level and less of a "{New client} will be cheatproof" level simply because that's an argument that defies reality.
I didnt say that all 2d users are cheaters. I myself happen to like the 2d client as well. I was referring to those posters, and they know who they are, that simply say, "If they do away with 2d I'll quit", but they never give an explanation as to why they won't give KR a chance. I gave it a chance, with a crappy video card, and it failed. I came here and posted such, and once I replaced the card, and was able to successfully log in and actually explore, I came here and said so..but I stand by my "opinion" , and it's just that, my opinion.......
I have stayed away from the 2d = you just want to use a cheat program argument because I do not think that it in anyway bolsters the KR argument in the least. On this you're correct D'Amavir, if KR were the main client, it would have exploit programs to go with it before long (as would/will SA for that matter), so to me it has always been a moot point and one I disagree with other KR users about.
My stance is on a more philosophical level and less of a "{New client} will be cheatproof" level simply because that's an argument that defies reality.
LOL, about as perfect as a 57 bel-air........actually, the 57 would be better. At least todays cars can't be compared to it by looks alone.There's nothing that needs changing in the 2D client. It's already perfect.