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Nightsight on Champhunts?

Nukeworker

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Hi folks!

Here is a question I always wanted to ask. This constant daytime nighttime daytime nightime on champ hunts is a bit annoying. I play an Elf char tamer when doing Champ hunts..I even wear night sight leggings..But I still get this switching back and forth..Was this intended? Or just another bug?
 
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Chiera

Guest
I don't have this problem with elven chars at champs. But iirc there was a thread a while ago about a problem with elvs and night sight items. Same thing as you describe. So maybe just try to remove the night sight items on the char and see if that helps
 

Olahorand

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I find that awfull as well. From one step to the other the char stands in the dark - and with dark I mean really dark without seeing much from the landscape - until I pull the nightsight item from the paperdoll for a short moment. Very unhandy, if you are just under fire by the spawn and need to run.

*Salute*
Olahorand
 
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Connor_Graham

Guest
This problem is caused by 2 things. First, Elves wearing nightsight items. To fix this, remove then replace the item and it will fix the problem. The second is the bug where Fel seems to "stick" to your character, and even though you are in one of the Trammel lands, the landscape will change to barren trees with bones and gravestones everywhere. The only things I've found to fix this is to either recall, or cross a server line, to a different server, or to equip a nightsight item, then remove it. The Fel landscape will still be there by equipping a nightsight item, but you'll be able to see again. Changing servers is the only way to fix the landscape, but it can and will change right back as soon as in game day turns to night and vice versa.
 

Tina Small

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If the problem continues, one thing you might do to alleviate it just a bit is to make sure the "Dark Nights" option on the Display tab under Options on the paperdoll is NOT checked.
 

Olahorand

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Stratics Legend
My chars are not elves.
My chars carry nightsight items.
Dark nights is not checked.

I have the feeling, that the change to dark tends to happen either if passing a certain point in the area or if the spawn level is increasing. Both not always.

*Salute*
Olahorand
 

Littleblue

Seasoned Veteran
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My chars are not elves.
My chars carry nightsight items.
Dark nights is not checked.

I have the feeling, that the change to dark tends to happen either if passing a certain point in the area or if the spawn level is increasing. Both not always.

*Salute*
Olahorand
This is the same situation as I experience.

It does seem that it goes dark once I cross a certain point within the spawn area. :(
 
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LdyHawke

Guest
Agreed. I'm having exactly the same problem as Olahorand and Littleblue. It happened to me a month or so ago (prior to the Publish 58 fixes, I believe), and again all this past weekend long. At points, it was extremely aggravating.
 

Kellgory

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There once was a problem with the Ish Oaks spawn where certain spots would go black. I thought they had fixed those a year or more ago.
 

Ailish

Lore Master
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There IS dark area around champ spawns. It is part of how you tell the radius of the current level (each level gets smaller and smaller around the altar until it is just one screen). If you pass into a dark area, you are no longer in the area that is "active" and may not be getting credit for your kills. I am pretty sure that this effect happens even when you have NS stuff on, but it shouldnt be "pitch" dark.

I do NOT advocate removing this effect, as it is the only indicator of the active area of the spawn at any given time.
 

GalenKnighthawke

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Champ Spawns have had screwy day/night effects since they were introduced. And I don't mean in Publish 16, I mean in Third Dawn, the very first Ilshenar champ spawns. Before altars that used to be how you could tell you were in a champ spawn, aside from the monsters themselves. (And that wasn't reliable as it could be "normal" spawn too.)

http://www.uoguide.com/Champion_Spawns

Elves have perma-night sight.

Night sight is bugged.

So....

Elves + Night Sight items + Champ Spawn day/night effects + bugs = Occasional weirdness. And, for some characters, constant weirdness.

Solution: If you have night sight items, when night kicks in unexpectedly, quickly remove and replace the item. The issue will clear up immediately, or at least should. (And does when it happens to me.)

Annoying yes, but also in most cases easily fixed....Or, rather, easily worked around.

-Galen's player
 
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Morgana LeFay (PoV)

Guest
My chars are not elves.
My chars carry nightsight items.
Dark nights is not checked.

I have the feeling, that the change to dark tends to happen either if passing a certain point in the area or if the spawn level is increasing. Both not always.

*Salute*
Olahorand
Same issue here. My characters are not elves. I use nocturne earrings, and sometimes, for no apparent reason, the screen goes ultra-dark at champ spawns. If I remove the earrings, and put them back on, it goes back to normal. I do not have dark nights checked.

And just like you describe, it happens when moving in and out of a certain point in the area...but only sometimes.

Also, I have noticed the light level changes when walking around the champ spawn area, from light, to not-quite-as-light-as-it-was-right-over-there-but-not-so-dark.

Strange stuff.
 

Kat

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Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
My chars are not elves.
My chars carry nightsight items.
Dark nights is not checked.

I have the feeling, that the change to dark tends to happen either if passing a certain point in the area or if the spawn level is increasing. Both not always.

*Salute*
Olahorand
I have the same problem. Character is is human and dark nights is not checked. The problem is "patchy" in champ areas. The area is light in certain areas and dark in others.

The only thing I've found helpful is to wear the night sight earrings f rom the turn-in. If I end up dead and looted, I'm useless to even find my way out. Its always a joy calling for a "help stuck" and getting a response like "your character does not appear to be stuck. Abuse of this feature will result in action against your account". :cursing:
 

GalenKnighthawke

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If you have an issue with night sight periodically not working, remove and reequip any night sight items you have.

If you have an issue with night sight being way too extreme at champ spawn areas, this is a long-standing issue, I have no idea if they intended it or not. If you have night sight items, do the same thing as before (remove and reequip).

If the issue is with dying and being rezzed and unable to see (especially at champ spawns where there are weird lighting effects), and you have UO Assist, make a "dress" macro. (It took me years to set one up, and when I finally did, I was very pleased with it. Just make sure you set the macro to recognize your suit every couple of days, and/or if you change your suit.) Or, make a macro (UO or UO Assist will both do I think?) to equip your night sight item. If you equip the night sight item and it still doesn't seem to work? Remove and reequip.

None of these are "solutions" to the issue per se. They rather are "workarounds." Temporary, practical solutions that work in most cases.

Good luck out there.

-Galen's player

PS: As to the broader issue of lighting effects at champ spawns? I have no opinion, really.
 

WildWobble

Sage
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
THIS IS NOT A NIGHT SIGHT ITEM PROBLEM

Most of my characters are elves and i try to avoid night sight at all possible as a mod on my armor. Yet i have had this same problem happen!

No night sight items
None None None

Yet at champ spawns now and then i have this bug pop up and blind me since i did not take dark nights off well they off now anyhow but its still a pain in the butt to have to get friends cast night sight on an elf!
 

Nukeworker

Seasoned Veteran
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
Hi folks!

Here is a question I always wanted to ask. This constant daytime nighttime daytime nightime on champ hunts is a bit annoying. I play an Elf char tamer when doing Champ hunts..I even wear night sight leggings..But I still get this switching back and forth..Was this intended? Or just another bug?
Well thanks for the fast reply and info folks! I guess I will have to live with it ...or delete my account and decide to play WoW!:D
 
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Connor_Graham

Guest
THIS IS NOT A NIGHT SIGHT ITEM PROBLEM

Most of my characters are elves and i try to avoid night sight at all possible as a mod on my armor. Yet i have had this same problem happen!

No night sight items
None None None
The one character I have this problem with is also an elf with no nightsight items at all. He runs into this anytime he's been in Fel and back again.
 

GalenKnighthawke

Grand Poobah
Stratics Veteran
Stratics Legend
THIS IS NOT A NIGHT SIGHT ITEM PROBLEM

Most of my characters are elves and i try to avoid night sight at all possible as a mod on my armor. Yet i have had this same problem happen!

No night sight items
None None None

Yet at champ spawns now and then i have this bug pop up and blind me since i did not take dark nights off well they off now anyhow but its still a pain in the butt to have to get friends cast night sight on an elf!
See I actually think that IS a night sight problem, it's just that your character has night sight on all the time and can't take it on or off.

Suggestion would be to carry around some Nocturne Earrings.

When you get that issue, slide on the Earrings. Your sight should restore, and then should remain once you remove the item.

None of this is guaranteed of course.

-Galen's player
 
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