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Vesper Stables Petition to UO Devs

hen

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Vesper is the main trade route from the mainland to the islands. As such it probably has a strict quarantine regulation. What happens if MeRLiN tames some hideous looking thing in Tokuno and brings it back to Sossaria through Vesper Docks and it is crawling with scabies or the black death?
No, a stable in Vesper is out of the question. Cove needs a stable far more than the-most-annoying-town-to-run-through-in all the lands.
 
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CheesePlant

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I agree! Perhaps they could do a competition like Britain bank, I would submit a design for Europa.
 

Escaflowne

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Vesper is the main trade route from the mainland to the islands. As such it probably has a strict quarantine regulation. What happens if MeRLiN tames some hideous looking thing in Tokuno and brings it back to Sossaria through Vesper Docks and it is crawling with scabies or the black death?
No, a stable in Vesper is out of the question. Cove needs a stable far more than the-most-annoying-town-to-run-through-in all the lands.
HEATHEN!!!! REPENT!!! :D
 
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Kula

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Vesper is unique w/o a stable, why would we want to muck that up and have it conform to be more like Trinsic?

By the way, Luna doesn't have a harbor, can we please add a river to Luna and a harbor, a city like Luna deserves it - I role play as a Pirate there sometimes!

Kidding aside, it would be nice to have a stable where you suggest, but it's not going to happen anytime before SA is released. You're all just setting yourselves and the Devs up to be frustrated in 2 weeks when this idea gets shot down. I can already imagine the angry threads that will come of it.
 

Tina Small

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Escaflowne, I took a brief stroll on Europa around the area you mentioned and can see why you picked that spot for a stable. (I loved the Swaggers Inn and the Town Hall, by the way). However, since you're asking for something that sounds like it would affect every shard, I'd prefer that the stable be closer to the bank so it might actually promote more traffic to the town on all shards. I think Delucia, Skara Brae, New Haven, Zento, and obviously Luna, are popular on most shards because the stable in each of these towns is fairly close to the bank.

What do you think of the spot that is north of the miner's guild and west of the jeweler's shop? Some trees would have to come out, but the spot looks like it could hold a small building.
 

BajaElladan

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Well, you don't roleplay on Europa in Vesper, so you might not know how hard it is... There is two Vesper roleplaying guilds on Europa and they have a RP-Town right smack outside of it, a pretty good sizes one, right next to the bridge there they have the massive, Swaggers Inn, where most of their roleplaying takes place.. Most of them cannot recall, gate or use sacred journey because of the way Europa roleplaying is set up and we walk mostly everywhere we go.... I am in BoC (Baronship of Cove) and I believe we have no stables either, and it would sure come in handy, especially for Europa..

*signed*
Out of curiosity, do you mean your "roleplay rules" forbid use of magery, deny existence of diety granted paladin "powers," forbid use of charged runebooks, and allow travel only by mount, boat, or on foot??? If so, I applaud your roleplay but condemn the whining for more/closer stables. You made your roleplay bed, sleep in it.

Elladan of Baja
 
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Pasquinade

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I agree that Vesper could use a stable, but I would think that someplace closer to the bank would be better for promoting more traffic in town.
Of course, the only town I ever see with any activity seems to be New Haven.
 

Velvathos

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Out of curiosity, do you mean your "roleplay rules" forbid use of magery, deny existence of diety granted paladin "powers," forbid use of charged runebooks, and allow travel only by mount, boat, or on foot??? If so, I applaud your roleplay but condemn the whining for more/closer stables. You made your roleplay bed, sleep in it.

Elladan of Baja

On Europa, yes.. Not my rules though, it is just ho we roll on Europa.. In fact, we all travel on foot, not by mount, we have mages and we can paladins, we just don't recall or gate when we're around other roleplayers, and we only gate when it is a super long distance... But if it is within moongate range, we all walk wherever we go..
 
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Lord Drakelord

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Would be nice having a Stables near in vesper and near Cove and Minoc

there is a stable in Minoc.

But I would like to see a small stable area in Cove, would be good over near the farmer's market there. And in Vesper I like the idea of a stable in Vesper, a small one near the Inn would be great, even if its nothing more then a hitching post and a stable master, much like Moonglow is at the Inn there.
 
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Lord Drakelord

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Since it appears from this thread that every city but Vesper has a stable, can someone please direct me to the location of the stables in Jhelom? I know that sounds stupid after playing 11+ years but I don't think I have never found the stables in Jhelom and I don't see it listed in UOAM.
to tell you the true, I don't think there is one there, but I could be wrong, maybe they consider the farms as stables?
 

Escaflowne

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Escaflowne, I took a brief stroll on Europa around the area you mentioned and can see why you picked that spot for a stable. (I loved the Swaggers Inn and the Town Hall, by the way). However, since you're asking for something that sounds like it would affect every shard, I'd prefer that the stable be closer to the bank so it might actually promote more traffic to the town on all shards. I think Delucia, Skara Brae, New Haven, Zento, and obviously Luna, are popular on most shards because the stable in each of these towns is fairly close to the bank.

What do you think of the spot that is north of the miner's guild and west of the jeweler's shop? Some trees would have to come out, but the spot looks like it could hold a small building.
I don't mind where the stable goes to be honest, i don't mind if it ended up as a hitching post and stable master but of course i'd prefer an actual building even if it was little.
I was just giving an example of where it could go within the guardzone, i'd be happy if Vesper got a stable anywhere rather than not have one at all :).
 

Escaflowne

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Out of curiosity, do you mean your "roleplay rules" forbid use of magery, deny existence of diety granted paladin "powers," forbid use of charged runebooks, and allow travel only by mount, boat, or on foot??? If so, I applaud your roleplay but condemn the whining for more/closer stables. You made your roleplay bed, sleep in it.

Elladan of Baja
Another Heathen! Burn him! :D

Other points aside, why not? :)
This wouldnt just benefit us roleplayers, but the other people who enjoy Vesper too.
 
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Lady Arianne

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Way back when Vesper was one of the two busiest towns o/s of Britt,we tried to get a stable of SOME kind then.

I think its vital Vesper has some kind of consideration for stabling horses.

Its a trade town with a harbour,the Swaggers and town hall are located near the river [ used frequently for smuggling and piracy etc ] so a lot of 'trade' goes on there too.

It also makes sense folk would hire/stable mounts after travelling to/from a harbour full of boats.

From a roleplay sense also it would help as goods being loaded on and off trade vessels could then be loaded onto pack horses.

Even a hitching post with stable boy in attendance would not infringe on any buildings placed nearby on other shards.

So yes please let Vesper have the stables people have been asking for over the past XX amount of years.

Good luck with this petition Esca

/signed
 

Ferrut

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Sounds good to me!!! ;)

Wonder when they ever gonna put something (a castle I guess?) in that big open spot to the west of Vesper too...
 
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Stanton Of Pac

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Posting a stable keeper at the inn just on the edge of town would do the trick.
 
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Doireann

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I agree, each town needs a stable, though try to avoid the stableboy at the inn thing. That's in Moonglow and the stench is horrible at that inn.

On a side note, after they get their stable, can Moonglow please get a tavern? The students don't have an area to left off steam after studying.
 
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Trevelyan

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Vesper is a more sizeable town.. could even just add an NPC if housing presents a problem

Competition - Design a stable (for all shards)
 

Saunders

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I agree, each town needs a stable, though try to avoid the stableboy at the inn thing. That's in Moonglow and the stench is horrible at that inn.
The inn on the edge of Vesper is already well frequented by animals wandering in from the wood. The odd horse, dragon, or squirrel would make little difference to the smell.
 
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Merv DeGriff

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I like vesper and all, but don't mow someone's house or EM/GM bits. However if that area is clear on all shards, why not? There are lots of things in that spot on some shards.
 

Cadsuane Sedai

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"I agree! Perhaps they could do a competition like Britain bank, I would submit a design for Europa."

Agreed

*Scrawls signature*

"I like vesper and all, but don't mow someone's house or EM/GM bits. However if that area is clear on all shards, why not? There are lots of things in that spot on some shards."

I don't think you can place in that spot.... it's in the guard zone.......
 

LadyNico

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/signed if only because Esca's beginning to get a bit rank after sleeping with those hell cats for so long... :p

@ BajaElladan - Before you go disrespecting others' choice of game play, I challenge you to join -V- for a week. :thumbsup:
 
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Brynthe

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I don't think you can place in that spot.... it's in the guard zone.......
Fel side may be different though, as a lot of older grandfathered homes are still in their original positions on some servers, when housing was allowed just about everywhere.. oh so long ago. I could be wrong about that, though as its been a while since I've been through that part of Vesper.

And as someone mentioned up thread, on LS we have one of the checkpoints for the Royal Britannian games in that spot. Tearing down GM/EM event items never goes over well on LS. I'm still ticked off about the Eternal Fire that was mashed up in Yew when Heartwood opened. Decorations like these are what make each shard unique and give them their own personal flair and history. (I have a bunch of screenies from unique places on LS, that I enjoy flipping through personally.)

I'd much rather see one of the unused buildings in town be turned to a stable, or redo the map in that little area to accomodate the addition of a stable (as that area does seem to be the most logical place for a stable.) Perhaps the guard station could be resized to a guard post and a stable could take up part of the converted space.

For the time being, someone should try to get ownership of a house in that area and make it a public stable.. with a hitching post. Make everyone you know a friend of the place, and have a box for donation of hitching ropes. Hold events to collect the items needed to make more ropes, etc. Include it in your roleplay.. perhaps put it on the north side of Vesper and you and the other roleplay guilds can take turns taking over ownership, etc.. get your shards EMs involved, and perhaps you can talk them into at least making you something more permanent.

Whatever happens.. don't give up.. Cove eventually got a bank. Frankly, this is an area of the game, I'd like to see the Devs really put some work into.. revitalizing the old Britannia.. nothing would bring more "Ultima" back into the game than spending time and effort on the parts of the game that were actually part of the Ultima games (SA aside.)
 
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Deb

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Sounds like an awesome idea, Never did understand why such a large
town as Vesper didn't have a stable.
 
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