Publish 58 a good or bad thing?

[Vallend]

Today was our first day with Publish 58 and it covered all the things listed below:

Trial Accounts
Removed the 15 day character age requirement for house placement
Players are not allowed to place a house while on a trial account
Players are not allowed to co-own or be traded a house while on a trial account
Trial accounts have travel restrictions –
Cannot visit Felucca dungeons or Felucca T2A
Trial Accounts have the following resource restrictions -
Will only receive basic ores and logs (iron, plain logs) even if they'd otherwise qualify for better types
Will not receive sand or stone when mining
Trial Account Misc. restrictions -
Will not receive ML rewards for resource gathering (jewels, ingredients, and white pearls while fishing)
Will not receive rewards, monster kill points, or virtue points from champ spawns
Will not get scrolls while doing champ spawns
Will not gain Justice virtue points for killing murderers
Cannot use Valor or Justice virtues
Cannot Protect or be Protected by another player
Can not join factions or faction aligned guilds
If in a guild they will be removed from the guild, if their guild joins a faction
Cannot use Scrolls of Alacrity, Power Scrolls, Stat Scrolls, or Scrolls of Transcendence
Cannot use Commodity Deeds
Cannot do Community Collections
Cannot use Soulstones or fragment soulstones
Cannot use Pet summoning balls
Cannot use Bracelets of Binding
Cannot use the Bag of Sending
Cannot do any repeatable quests – even if they are normally repeatable
Cannot acquire BOD’s

Champ Spawns
Fixed an issue with SoT’s and Alacrity scroll effects stacking
Champ spawn bosses no longer spawn as Paragons
Dead players who receive a reward for killing the spawn will no longer see the reward deleted. It will be placed on their corpse.
SoT drop rate has been adjusted.
Fixed an issue with the Champ Spawn altar getting stuck if the boss despawns or disappears
Fixed an issue with the top attackers only getting the right number of scrolls at a champ spawn
Fixed the drop rate in Trammel with SoT’s
Fixed an issue where the top attackers were not getting the right number of scrolls at a champ spawn
Fixed Mephitis small web attack – will not teleport players into the altar
Tattered Mummy wrappings will no longer stack with unhued bandages
Fixed an issue with static items spawning at champ spawns
Champ Spawn special drop items will no longer drop into your back if you are over weight or over item limit
Serado will now drop unique and decorative rewards
Exorcism range has been increased to include the entire champ spawn area plus 2 screens in all directions

Misc additions
Gift of life will now offer to resurrect you after death
Gem of Salvation will not longer delete itself if another player resurrects you
Fixed an issue with champ spawn rewards appearing at the champ spawn instead of your backpack
Added a Reuse timer of 15 seconds to faction bandages
Cupid will no longer block in Felucca
Players will no longer get multi gumps with Cupid
Players completing the Naturalist quest should now get the correct type of seeds ( fire, white and black seeds)
Black and White seeds should only be peculiar plants
Fire Seeds should only be legacy plants plus the flowery cactus
Completing only 4 nests will continue to give the 4 rare colors on legacy plants only
Players can now use the Xmas Tree Deeds to place non decorated trees year round
Arcane power should now affect your summons/familiar, should give a 10% bonus for hit points for summons, necro animates, necro familiars, and necro revenants
Immolating Weapon should now play a sound when the spells fades
Gem of Salvation will no longer delete itself on death if the player is resurrected by another player
Added a profanity filter for Cupid
Durability on certain items that started as 255 will be changed to 150 and be dyable
Disabling the WoS Invasion
Returning the trammel city regions
Fixed an issue with Cupid not storing messages correctly
Players will no longer be able to inscribe locked down books
Removed the 3X player vendor costs on Siege/Mugen
Insured books will no longer carry over their insured/blessed status when copied
Players can now trade Grizzled Mare Statues.
Players can no longer get rare stealables when random stealing from tamed pets
An issue has been resolved with stealing from players and monsters
Fixed an issue with durability not working on specific items – rings, bracelets, earrings, talisman, and shoes
Mirror Images will now copy alignment correctly
Re-enabled access to the Top level in Wrong dungeon.
Flowery Cactus and the Spider Tree will now spawn the correct plant
Reverted the bag of sending to its original state
Reduced the weight of gold and silver
Balancing changes previously on TC1 were not included in this publish.
Upon death all buff/debuffs that show on the status bar will be removed, also modified attributes reset

Below is some statements made by Draconi in UHall about the reduced weight of gold and silver and why they did it:

This has the feel of a bug.

Total guess here, but it's a reasonable one:
I think that they had 2 ideas on how to proceed....Make gold lighter, OR restore bags of sending. They coded both, decided on the latter, then forgot to take out the former.

Official comment is quite necessary here.



-Galen's player

It's intentional, for many of the reasons already cited above, and I'd recommend you enjoy the gold drops now before we rebalance the loot!

Thank you for the clarification. I won't be able to get much gold farming in today....Oh well. Maybe the change will be left in for awhile before you do said re-balancing.

Which brings me to.....re-balance the loot? I know I've heard/read you all talking about monster loot, making it more useful.

But are you basically telling us you're changing gold drops too?

-Galen's player

Yes

That depends on why it bothers you. If it is because you think a cap on LRC would deter scripters... it won't. If it's because you think it would balance playstyles, it won't. If it just irks you, then yes... I am scared.

LRC is one of those things that we have no intention of touching or "balancing," for exactly the reasons described above.

It's unfortunate that we placed ourselves in a situation where reagents were so completely displaced, but there are so many other real things that need attention that it's become something we just have to deal with.

Yea, that's one rabbit you can't put back in the hat.

Unless you can find an exhaustible, un-insurable item(s) that all warriors need before they can return to combat.

Yep! There's no way we can stuff the rabbit back into the hat with our existing rulesets...

 

[MareJadeSky]

i dont know if this patch will be a good thing or a bad thing all i know is i am glad the bags- of sending are coming back to the way they us to be

 

[Farsight]

I know that I haven't gone to certain hunting areas or collected hides in months. It will be nice to build up a supply of hides again.

And I can work on my lumberjack for more than 5 minutes at a time! Woot!

I could really care less about gold. After one spending spree in my first couple of months, I only spend gold on consumables these days (pots, petals, etc), which are cheap. One of my characters doesn't even have insurance on his suit half the time.

 

[RichDC]

I was hoping for good things in regards to the Spell weaving, so far though i have been disappointed.

the first statement - Gift of life will offer a ressurection after death (it always did this!)
Then later it says summing about it not disappearing or something.
Now i and a few others i have read have tested this "change" and heres what we discovered...NOTHING HAS CHANGED!!! Gift of life operates EXACTLY as it did pre patch

I also am a little disappointed about the PS drop but not too fussed as at least the zergs lose the chance of replicas.

the rest seems to be alot of nothing, no fixes for PvP i.e. conc blow or pets yet...maybe i misread that and it actually is in patch 85...or maybe 855 *sighs*

 

[Corvak]

I think that overall it's good. The housing wait was awkward for new people who know they want to start a subscription, so at least now they can forfeit half their trial when they need more storage space.

I just wish I could get that 'only harvest normal wood/iron ore with a GM LJ/Miner' thing on one of my paid characters

Also, the BOS change is good, I know a lot of people will hunt further from a bank now, as we can get into a dungeon and not have to leave halfway through from being full of loot. Draconi mentions rebalancing loot, and possibly lowering gold drops, which is fine, as if they make the other drops more useful, it'll offset it.

Couple of champ spawn changes, heard a few good/bad things about them, but given the drama that ensues from Felucca spawns, I don't really want to get into them anyway. I've also heard some of them are bugged right now.

 

[Marcus Blackwell]

Overall the changes seem to be a good thing I think just wish they bug tested it abit longer on Origin before making it live on all shards. I like the gold weight change but think they should have waited to make this change when they make the loot table change. I just hope they give us better items as loot if they plan on lowering the gold on monsters.

 

[Beleg Megil]

They got my hopes up about the non-decorated version of holiday trees being usable. Wonder what happened because it certainly doesn't let you place them.

 

[AnneNomilly]

They got my hopes up about the non-decorated version of holiday trees being usable. Wonder what happened because it certainly doesn't let you place them.

Regine posted (somewhere) that she's checking on the problem.

 

[Vallend]

You mean this one from UHall (Re: Pub 58 on Ogirin and etc) Post number #17

Players can now use the Xmas Tree Deeds to place non decorated trees year round - Uh, no this hasn't changed. Tried to use a Christmas tree deed on Origin just now and got the message I have to wait until next December to put up my tree.

Grrrr. I'll look into that.

 

[Bob_the_fart_guy]

What is the "WoS Invasion"?

 

[Vallend]

What is the "WoS Invasion"?

War of Shadows Bob.. as in a war with the Shadowlords

 

[Bob_the_fart_guy]

...erm. Are you serious? Does that mean that the city invasions are over now? No more "invasion armor" or "invasion weapons" then?

 

[Shioni]

Between the bag of sending and the lighter gold, Ive already herd stories of farmers pulling in 7 million an hour on Atlantic.

And that's not even running champ spawns, just farming ML mini bosses witch I am inclined to not name least my own gold farming efforts are ruined.

 

[TimberWolf]

Between the bag of sending and the lighter gold, Ive already herd stories of farmers pulling in 7 million an hour on Atlantic.

And that's not even running champ spawns, just farming ML mini bosses witch I am inclined to not name least my own gold farming efforts are ruined.

I think someone must be exaggerating....basic math tells me that a loot drop of 3500 gp you would need 2000 drops an hour to make 7 million.

Which works out to be 33 kills of a ML mini boss every minute for 1 hour OR kill and loot a mini boss every 1.81 secs. Not even Circular speed hackers can do that!

I admit I haven't gone out farming since the patch....but I don't think the numbers work.

 

[Shioni]

I think someone must be exaggerating....basic math tells me that a loot drop of 3500 gp you would need 2000 drops an hour to make 7 million.

Which works out to be 33 kills of a ML mini boss every minute for 1 hour OR kill and loot a mini boss every 1.81 secs. Not even Circular speed hackers can do that!

I admit I haven't gone out farming since the patch....but I don't think the numbers work.

There is a mini boss we can kill in 8 seconds it drops 1.2k Takes 3 people just to loot all the corpses

 

[TimberWolf]

There is a mini boss we can kill in 8 seconds it drops 1.2k Takes 3 people just to loot all the corpses

ok 8 seconds at 1.2k per drop...

that is 7.5 drops a minute...

that means you loot about 9000 gp per minute...

that earns you about 540k an hour....

that is a far way to 7 mill a hour.

The numbers don't lie, no one is looting 7 mill a hour unless they are cheating!

 

[Bob_the_fart_guy]

****Lowers head****

And gold suddenly becomes less valuable again. There goes inflation...there goes skyrocketing prices.

****Sighs heavily****

 

[Corvak]

ok 8 seconds at 1.2k per drop...

that is 7.5 drops a minute...

that means you loot about 9000 gp per minute...

that earns you about 540k an hour....

that is a far way to 7 mill a hour.

The numbers don't lie, no one is looting 7 mill a hour unless they are cheating!

Also divided by three, as they seem to indicate you need three people to loot it all before it starts to decay. So basically, once something spawns more than once per 24 seconds, it's not increasing your gold/hour anymore.

 

[Vallend]

Publish 58 Update​

Chrissay Zeeman 26 Mar 2009 19:04:41 EST

We will be bringing the shards down for an update to Pub 58 at approximately 7:15 PM EST. The shards will be down for approximately 1 hour 15 minutes.

The updates include:

Champspawns

Fixed an issue with SOT’s and Powerscrolls (105’s) dropping correctly.
Fixed the Champ Spawns to cycle correctly in Felucca and Ilshenar
To reduce lag caused by the gold drops at champ spawns and the Harrower we are doing the follow:


Number of gold piles being spawned will be reduced
Quantity of gold per pile will be increased
Gold will be spread out more
Gold piles will stack on top of each other, rather than all be at the same elevation

Bug Fixes

Fixed the issue that allows players to place bare trees instead of xmas trees year round.
Mirror Images will no longer be aggressive.
Paladin NPC’s will no longer be available as a hireling.


Faction Changes

Paladins NPC’s throughout the world will now attempt to attack Reds and SL/Minax followers on sight.


Target must be visible
Paladins will no longer respawn once killed

Obsidian daggers will be available to SL’s twice a day maximum to do extra damage against the Paladin NPC’s only.

 

[Beleg Megil]

Fixed the issue that allows players to place bare trees instead of xmas trees year round.

I put a bunch out last night and today they had reverted back to deed form. So its not as fixed as they said.