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Stratics Rule Changes!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ok Now this isnt to start a flaming thread, or create chaos, its just simply an idea. Follow along for a brief couple minutes and i am sure some people will agree.

Stratics made its rule set many years ago when the gaming industry was much more simplistic and naive. We didnt have a lot of the problems we have now. Stratics is for the player community to be aware of things going on in the game(which implies fun) that may or may not be harmful or informative.

With that being said, here is what i am suggesting.

1) Rule set change
2) New Moderators (not all but some).

Ok Now this is where this thread will get locked, but i will say it anyway.
With all of the cheating going on in game, and EA basically allowing it to be done, its time to change the aspect of the forums. This is why i suggest new rules. If EA isnt going to ban people for it, why can't we talk about it? Before i could understand cause false accusations could get innocent people banned, but that is out the window. With this new rules set it should allow us to talk about in game cheating,exploits,hacks, scammers, ittps, and so on, so that way the COMMUNITY (which is what stratics is about) can enjoy thier gameplay. Well stratics do you care that a lot of us dont enjoy the gameplay cause of the rediculous amount of it going on? Lets bring it to the forums guys, lets change the naive perception a lot of people have in regards to this game.

Ok now yet again Im not trying to start issues, but lets look at the moderators. I know that you guys work hard to keep these boards safe and clean for lots of people. However i think some of them may be biased towards certain issues after hearing them over and over and over again. Orvago and Magdalene love to cut us off. There is no need to tell us not to make accusations when a person clear posts a pic which enables them to cheat in game. Why on earth when these people post stuff like that, are they NOT banned from stratics. Or why are they not reported, simply put because stratics allows them to hide behind these forums and thier rule set.
With a new rule set and new moderators, it would clean the air of all past issues and lets us get to work, on what really needs to be fixed.
You think part of the reason you keep hearing the same stuff is because it never it changes, and at this point is only getting worse.

Now, before you go off saying there is a general stratics policy for all the stratics sites, I understand that, however Uo can not be the only game with cheating and unfair gameplay.

Does Anyone agree with this idea? And if so, do you think that it could be effective?
 
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Kratos Aurion

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If you were looking for attention from the right people, why'd you post in a subforum and not Uhall?

The Stratics staff from my opinion are bias in many cases but it is a volunteer position and they are their to uphold the set rules.

I don't think it would hurt to allow players to discuss cheating without going into details (the specifics and how tos). In fact it would probably bring better user awarness to the forefront but thats not for me to decide. So good luck with your petition.
 
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Officerdg

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If you were looking for attention from the right people, why'd you post in a subforum and not Uhall?

The Stratics staff from my opinion are bias in many cases but it is a volunteer position and they are their to uphold the set rules.

I don't think it would hurt to allow players to discuss cheating without going into details (the specifics and how tos). In fact it would probably bring better user awarness to the forefront but thats not for me to decide. So good luck with your petition.
Actually Kratos, I do believe Mystra was allowing some talk but no finger pointing but some people just cant abide by the rules. Or Mystra would give them an inch and they would take a mile. Therefore they created UOPVP.NET so they could show there maturity and mentality levels and I would rather they keep it there.
 

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OK, there are two different things here:
O. Activities that are against any games' Terms of Service or the User Agreement are prohibited from being promoted or advertised on our network. This includes, but is not limited to, third party programs, game item sales for real world goods, power leveling services, and/or links to such items.
Which covers names, websites and how-tos on cheating, hacking, duping etc.
These subject can be discussed in general though.

The second part is about named accusations against people or groups of people. Here the policy is - if you have proof act in game, contact EA representatives, page a GM, etc. Stratics is not an appropriate venue to denounce cheaters.
If you just "think they must be cheating" and it "feels they run too fast" - sorry, that's nothing but slander and personal attack.

We do understand the frustration leading to "if the police (EA) do nothing about it, I will raise the stink in the press (post on a forum)", but 99% of such posts lead to nothing but accusations being thrown around, trolling, insults and general mayhem.

What if someone is stupid or self-assured enough to post a picture with a third party program running. lacking trees or field spells? Community ostracism should be enough... but in principle such screenshots should be removed...

Hope it clears some doubts as for current RoC and policies. :scholar:


P.S. Obviusly, everyone knows what "not-difficult-UO" and "shaving utensil" stand for and not allowing names to be mentioned might seem silly, but it's all about precedents and slippery slope...

Edit: Orvago is LotRO staff now, not UO.
 
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Mystra

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Actually Kratos, I do believe Mystra was allowing some talk but no finger pointing but some people just cant abide by the rules. Or Mystra would give them an inch and they would take a mile. Therefore they created UOPVP.NET so they could show there maturity and mentality levels and I would rather they keep it there.

For what its worth guys I think i am the most lax moderator to date , No idea what the superiors think of it but I try to allow free speach. Although the ROC must be upheld and the rights of the board owners to enforce them is justified. Each Mod has his own perception of the line that we must not cross but the ROC is and must be our guideline. The suggestions above well said and expressed do not attack us but point out an opinion.

And yes we have tried to allow what you ask to a controlled extent but people could not control themselves enough to allow it to continue.

I am not sure your pleas here are heard as much as if you posted in a more general forum like the Hall. But I hear ya either way.

Mystra
 

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You are all right in my book, Mystra.
 
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Actually Kratos, I do believe Mystra was allowing some talk but no finger pointing but some people just cant abide by the rules. Or Mystra would give them an inch and they would take a mile. Therefore they created UOPVP.NET so they could show there maturity and mentality levels and I would rather they keep it there.


you mean stay here so you can avoid the truth about your guild? you must like like reading the obits and decorating threads here on stratics. i guess you like being told what you can say. i bet you voted for president Hussein...
 

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you mean stay here so you can avoid the truth about your guild? you must like like reading the obits and decorating threads here on stratics. i guess you like being told what you can say. i bet you voted for president Hussein...
Stratics is what it is. Mods do what they do. If you want to go post and read a forum that has "free speech" more power to ya! Don't think it matters here.
 

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*smiles* You folks have it pretty good here. Just saying... Mystra is a good mod.
 

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Stratics is what it is. Mods do what they do. If you want to go post and read a forum that has "free speech" more power to ya! Don't think it matters here.
I understand why things are the way they are here on stratics. If I came here accused you of cheating etc. I could ruin any other kemo's reputation in this game, and because there might be 10 kemos who play UO that might be that I picked on the wrong Kemo to accuse. Also guild tags can be turned off so if you run into someone named Kemo so you avoid them which ruins reps in a game of legit players.
 

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I understand why things are the way they are here on stratics. If I came here accused you of cheating etc. I could ruin any other kemo's reputation in this game, and because there might be 10 kemos who play UO that might be that I picked on the wrong Kemo to accuse. Also guild tags can be turned off so if you run into someone named Kemo so you avoid them which ruins reps in a game of legit players.
Yup. You can type anything.
 
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Officerdg

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you mean stay here so you can avoid the truth about your guild? you must like like reading the obits and decorating threads here on stratics. i guess you like being told what you can say. i bet you voted for president Hussein...
I could care less what u say about UOD! Im just so pleased that we anger u all sooo much. Why? Well u know what they say about someone that angers u. U say "my guild" as though we all cheat. A couple may or may not have. If they have and we are all guilty because of them then I guess the same can be said for your preciouse BC I mean after all Malador was BC right? I assure u that there are people in EVERY guild that do cheat and dont try to deny it because unless u sit at every guildmates pc the entire time they play u cant say either way..
 
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Officerdg

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who said anything about anger?? its quite funny. even though your guild (*cough*) got better, they still get detroyed at even odds hands down. anyone could do damage in hugh numbers, even a pack of 100 trams fighting the best 5 pvpers on gl would certianly end up with the trams winning. you understand now? thats kinda how everyone looks at uod. i dont know for sure who did what in BC and yes mal was in BC and he did post some not so good screen shots, but its kinda funny that all of a sudden EVEYONE in uod got a new super computer and a uber connection all at the same time.
If u say so it must be true I suppose. WOW did u even consider proof reading any of what u said or rather tried to say?
 
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Kratos Aurion

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Does anyone use spellcheck anymore?

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Letz refame from caling out bad typrz and type like matter adults (mature adults)
 
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Shadow

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For what its worth guys I think i am the most lax moderator to date , No idea what the superiors think of it but I try to allow free speach. Although the ROC must be upheld and the rights of the board owners to enforce them is justified. Each Mod has his own perception of the line that we must not cross but the ROC is and must be our guideline. The suggestions above well said and expressed do not attack us but point out an opinion.

And yes we have tried to allow what you ask to a controlled extent but people could not control themselves enough to allow it to continue.

I am not sure your pleas here are heard as much as if you posted in a more general forum like the Hall. But I hear ya either way.

Mystra
It is true any other moderator would have banzorized my ass ages ago.
 
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