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Some details on the anti-virtue-dungeon drops...

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Ravahan

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I've noticed there's no info on this at all on stratics. Can someone tell me a few details? For instance, do you have to hunt certain dungeons for certain drops? What all drops are possible? Is the drop rate based on monster fame? Does luck effect drops as normal?

*whew*

Also... When did Stratics start sucking for info on new content? I think it was around SE...
 
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rwek

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if i can't find what i want here, i usually check uoguide.com
 

Harlequin

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1) do you have to hunt certain dungeons for certain drops?

Nope, all spawn in anti virue dungeons have a chance to drop any of the anti-virtue dungeon arties.

2) What all drops are possible?
See pub 47 note: http://update.uo.com/design_573.html

Or UOGuide: http://www.uoguide.com/Artifacts_(Virtue)

3) Is the drop rate based on monster fame?

It's supposed to, but it seems that quantity works better than quality in this instance. I suspect it doesn't scale like the fame system where you progressively get less fame as your fame increases. So it's ultimately faster to kill the lesser 1k fame spawn for "artifact points" than 5k fame spawns. Also, the roll is only made when you kill a spawn, meaning the more kills you make, the more rolls are made. Eg: Chances of rolling 1 in with a 20 sided dice within 10 tries is higher than rolling 5 (or less) in a single try.

4) Does luck effect drops as normal?

Not mentioned in the game notes. But my warriors that deal direct damage seem to do better than my tamers/mages using pets/evs.

Hope that helps.

Edit: What I meant to say was that my warriors do not have luck, when my tamers wear luck suits. However, it looks like luck was indeed mentioned in an FOF to have an effect as stated on Athos' page.
 
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Ravahan

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Hey, thanks so much for all the info guys! I'll look it over right off.

Appreciate it.
 
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Rand_Chessie

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do the 'artifact points' reset if you leave the dungeon to drop off loot then return a few minutes later?
 
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tymbow

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I've done quite a bit of Virtue Artificat farming of late for a few friends collections so I'll give you my two cents.
  1. Use a warrior.
  2. Go for quantity over fame. In the time it takes to to 30 or so dragons you can just as easily get a drop from a pile of lizardmen - usually more so.
  3. Luck (in my experience) makes little difference. I've tried it with 0 and over 2000 and the drop rate is about the same.
As for what to hunt, I find Earth elementals in Shame reliable and very easy. It typically takes me about 3-4 "passes" to get a drop. A "pass" in this sense is the time it takes to make around 17K in gold from dead elementals before I have to bank. It normally takes around 45 minutes to about 90 minutes to get a drop doing this.
 
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Ravahan

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I've done quite a bit of Virtue Artificat farming of late for a few friends collections so I'll give you my two cents.
  1. Use a warrior.
  2. Go for quantity over fame. In the time it takes to to 30 or so dragons you can just as easily get a drop from a pile of lizardmen - usually more so.
  3. Luck (in my experience) makes little difference. I've tried it with 0 and over 2000 and the drop rate is about the same.
As for what to hunt, I find Earth elementals in Shame reliable and very easy. It typically takes me about 3-4 "passes" to get a drop. A "pass" in this sense is the time it takes to make around 17K in gold from dead elementals before I have to bank. It normally takes around 45 minutes to about 90 minutes to get a drop doing this.
Woah. Compare that with getting 1 drop after farming about 150k off of bloods in the same dungeon. Yeah, I'd say that the lower fame dudes probably make it go faster!

I was hoping to farm up the rest of the virtue armor set for things such as Doom runs. Seems useful to have an all 70's suit that's blessed.

So far, I've gotten the gorget and katrina's crook... Which really isn't a bad weapon at all if you've got mace fighting. I took it out to do the Sleeping Dragon spawn earlier, and it kicked my berserker's maul's ass.
 

Maplestone

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Actually, what might be a slightly better strategy (depending on exactly how the formulas and spawn rates work out) would be to farm high-fame creatures for a little while (to boost the chance of a drop), then switch to masses of little creatures (for lots of rolls for a drop).
 

Dermott of LS

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So far, I've gotten the gorget and katrina's crook... Which really isn't a bad weapon at all if you've got mace fighting. I took it out to do the Sleeping Dragon spawn earlier, and it kicked my berserker's maul's ass.

The crook is decent, but I still haven't found anything that has really matched the quality of my Dragon Nunchaku (ToT arty).

For the virtue set, it may help people who have a few Heritage tokens still laying around to use those for the pieces you can obtain through them, then focus on the rest.

I don't know if the numbers above are for Trammel dungeon drop rates because it seemed like after the initial event was "over" they dropped the drop rate for the anti-virtue special drops down to the point where it was taking me 3 days if not more to get a single drop when during the event I could get two or three drops a night in the same spot (Level 4 Hyth mixing up gargs and daemons at a pretty fast spawn rate).

ALso people need to remember they have to do the Humility quest in order to recieve the cloak as it does NOT drop in the anti-virtue dungeons.
 

Maplestone

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For the virtue set, it may help people who have a few Heritage tokens still laying around to use those for the pieces you can obtain through them, then focus on the rest.
Based on the prices I've seen on vendors in the last little while, set pieces are going for about 50k gold and heritage tokens seem to be around 750k gold ... so I question that strategy.

(in any case, I wouldn't cash them in first - I'd wait until the end and see if the pieces from the token are the ones you're missing - you never know what order things will drop in)
 

Dermott of LS

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True. Better to wait and see if the token will grab the last piece(s) you need, but they are still an option in the cost vs time aspect.
 

It Lives

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Here's my Get a artie drop method. (95)luck mage with appropriate book. works really well!

1. kill balrons for 2 hours if you dont get a drop see 2.

2. Hit despise/shame start on lizard men/earth elementals kill every one. Note ( I make time to grief the unattended lizard men campers). so fun! I like pie.

3. Move to ettins/ogres.

4. If no drop in 2.5 hours restart.:)
 

WildWobble

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1~ Use a warrior!
2~ Go to a fel dungeon spawn
3~ Use whirlwind special move
4~ within 5 minutes of this if you not got your first and possibly second your
not a lucky person
5~ Yes fel! if you use the insure item on your outfit there is no real risk except
to a small part of your gold doing this so you might get pk's you could
also get killed by some random mugger at an atm maciene in rl so take a risk


the mage / necro / spellweavers can also take good advantage of this with big area spells like earthquake wither thunderstorm essence of wind & wildfire.

I like to hit the destard reptile spawn often to get some if i have the need
i will also go stealth threw despise some times and just pick up the rejects from the spawners.
 

wanderer1origin

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destard fel, use a titans first two levels artie or 2 every trip!!!!!!!!!

and sot also



1~ Use a warrior!
2~ Go to a fel dungeon spawn
3~ Use whirlwind special move
4~ within 5 minutes of this if you not got your first and possibly second your
not a lucky person
5~ Yes fel! if you use the insure item on your outfit there is no real risk except
to a small part of your gold doing this so you might get pk's you could
also get killed by some random mugger at an atm maciene in rl so take a risk


the mage / necro / spellweavers can also take good advantage of this with big area spells like earthquake wither thunderstorm essence of wind & wildfire.

I like to hit the destard reptile spawn often to get some if i have the need
i will also go stealth threw despise some times and just pick up the rejects from the spawners.
 

Basara

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It was after SE that the number of people submitting material severely dropped (with a gradual drop starting about AoS)

Remember that Stratics is a volunteer site, and we need contributors to actually work on the page.

That said, in the last few months, there's been a number of updates, a decent amount of things added, and there will be a total site revamp soon.

I've personally done a revision of the Tailor Essay, and a couple skill guide tables (Tailor & Smith, shows the maximum skill one can gain to with any non-recipe item, based on what Powerscroll you use), that are in the queue for being added, but not placed yet.
 
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