Event Feedback

[J0KING]

After doing the GL event just wanted to give some input/feedback on the events. Although it was somewhat fun... it could have room for improvement. Even though the story line was nice... some of the events seem to be having the same problem... not sure if other shards are having some of the same suggestions...

1) Player interactions - Spam, Spam, and more Spam... really hard to hear/read what the EM had to say. Appeared like some players had no interest in the event or were just determined to annoy other players.

Only idea for improvement is allow the EM's a way to remove players from the event, squelch their speech, or have a blocked off area in which they can speak.

2) Rewards - The "I didn't get anything" complaint. Either have enough for all the players or have NPCs give out the rewards similar to a quest. This way the EM isnt the person to blame if somebody didn't get anything. On the GL players had to get information from several NPCs, but then the EMs picked who received the reward.

Could have even had one of the NPCs sell an event item (gold sink idea). Perfect example was the Apothecary on the GL could have sold the poison he gave to Juliet.


I am sure there are many things that can be tweaked with any event. Do not intend for this to be an airing of grievances thread, but a place to give feedback and ideas...

 

[Petrify]

That GL event was rubbish, I found it funny how Juliet gave out one of the rewards to somebody who handed in the exploited pure white cloth apron.

Oh and the "no more than 200gp" yet somebody was wearing full invul blue tokuno dyed stormgrips/jackals collar ect and they got "runner up".

At least GL gave out good rewards (white lantern), I won both events on Oceania and got rubbish

 

[Lord_Puffy]

That GL event was rubbish, I found it funny how Juliet gave out one of the rewards to somebody who handed in the exploited pure white cloth apron.

Oh and the "no more than 200gp" yet somebody was wearing full invul blue tokuno dyed stormgrips/jackals collar ect and they got "runner up".

At least GL gave out good rewards (white lantern), I won both events on Oceania and got rubbish

WAHHHHHHHHHHHH I DIDNT GET ANY PIXEL CRACK WAHHHHHH

 

[Petrify]

WAHHHHHHHHHHHH I DIDNT GET ANY PIXEL CRACK WAHHHHHH

I really hope that isn't you in your avatar.

 

[Cyrah]

Ok I will bite. I went to Atlantic(play there) to try and do event and then stopped by Great Lakes(used to play there) just to see it. Whoa!

I have never seen so much filth typed on the screen in many years of playing. I saw the EM say *looks annoyed*. This was on GL. So they had fashion contest?

Atlantic had no filth that I saw. I thank both Ems for efforts. It was something different to do. Maybe someday I can be there for all of the instructions, lol!

 

[J0KING]

I have never seen so much filth typed on the screen in many years of playing. I saw the EM say *looks annoyed*. This was on GL. So they had fashion contest?

Maybe someday I can be there for all of the instructions, lol!

Aye... that was the problem with GL... so much spamming and trash talking it was difficult to see what you were being told. Opening the journal didnt help that much because it moved so quick that you had to scroll back through to see what they had said...

Only real option that I thought of too late was to put some players on igore... one of the reasons why it would be nice for the EMs to have the ability to remove players or at least squelch their speech...

 

[Viper09]

I have an idea. EM's shouldn't give any kind of rewards for any event. Unless it's some kind of contest. That way no one can complain that they didn't get something like someone else did.

 

[MissEcho]

At least GL gave out good rewards (white lantern), I won both events on Oceania and got rubbish

You got rewards with unique titles, so they will be 'rare' and frankly, after your performance at the end of the second day event perhaps it would be great if they exploded in your backpack or were just wiped out by Draconi from existance. Talk about a cry baby "I won how come I didn't get the necklace like yesterday" "why did second and third get the best rewards, yadda yadda"

The EM gave you rewards different to the ones you received on the 1st day. If you were doing the event for the keepsake of the items you would be happy to get different ones rather than the same. Talk about performing like a spoiled child.

And then to come out with "I won both days so should get better rewards than the 'lesser people' " pretty much sums your attitude up.

I feel sorry for our EM because I know it doesn't matter what you get you will never be satisfied. If you think the rewards are so much rubbish just give them away and don't bother attending any more EM events. I know the majority of the shard would be quite happy if you didn't.

 

[Moonstar]

for Atlantic our event doesnt end till this weekend. the rewards will eb 1 per account and it sounds like everyone who completes the quest will get rewarded. No clue what the reward is but i really hope it isnt a pink Book of truth but named Tome of Love. that would suck.those books are big and clunky.

 

[Petrify]

If you think the rewards are so much rubbish just give them away and don't bother attending any more EM events. I know the majority of the shard would be quite happy if you didn't.

The only reason the majority of the shard would be happy if I didn't attend would be the fact they would have a chance of winning and getting the rewards yourself.

You were the one crying "WHY DIDN'T I GET A REWARD FOR PARTICIPATING". Try winning then you might get rewarded.

I was upset because on the first day I received a good reward, then on the second I got shafted and received the same rewards as 4th and 5th, whereas 2nd and 3rd got better rewards than me. Here's a prime example of why I get annoyed about what EM's hand out:

1. Two winners on great lakes recieved Ice White lanterns which were named - easily worth 100m+.
2. I won BOTH times on my shard and received a crappy, non unique colour named necklace (lucky to get 40m for it) and a honeypot that was handed out to ten other people (10m tops).

So me winning twice is only about half the value of somebody winning on GL. Is that fair? Nope. Not to mention I have NEVER received anything good from an EM, which is odd considering I win 95% of the events on our shard (you can't deny this)... an example of this is the "Cassandra the meer" event where you had to solve a riddle and find a remote island (you weren't meant to find it she was meant to die). Nobody on our shard had any idea where to go, I found it in about 40 minutes (time limit of 1hr) before anybody had even figured out that the books were co-ordinates. Okay, so I find her, gate everybody in... we rescue her... I go back to the castle and recieve a PLAIN SASH that says "Rescued Cassandra the Meer" or something.

Now, somebody like Lady Kat (who EM's love) does a house design contest which the EM's didn't even tell us about (they announced it to like 5 people), she wins a purple talking statue, worth 100+m. Or a footrace event which people received neon horse statues for SECOND AND THIRD as well as first. Oh and not to mention we received the only no-trade no-drop items in the ENTIRE game. Which we had to create a ****storm so they could change them so we could actually wear them instead of just taking a spot up in our backpack (however they are now useless again as they are footwear).

The day I receive a usable item (in terms of decoration or pvp/pvm) is the day I will actually be satisfied with the EM program. Because right now, I find that the people who the EM's seem to love who manage to win 5/100 events somehow manage to receive an item worth 100x more than the items which I win 95/100 times.

 

[hawkeye_pike]

1) Player interactions - Spam, Spam, and more Spam... really hard to hear/read what the EM had to say.
2) Rewards - The "I didn't get anything" complaint.

1) It really is quite easy to put annoying players on your ignore list. Maybe this feature will even be improved with the SA client. Mostly you have a handful of spammers at events. It takes a minute to put them on ignore, and afterwards you'll have hours of peace.

2) Ingore the whiners. They're everywhere, and they don't represent the majority.

 

[LordNoximos]

Petri, aren't you just satisfied knowing you won something? I mean, if I won an item with "Noximos" or even screen shotted be winning the event, I'd be happy enough to never do another again man, you just seem too greedy to me. =\

 

[Petrify]

Petri, aren't you just satisfied knowing you won something? I mean, if I won an item with "Noximos" or even screen shotted be winning the event, I'd be happy enough to never do another again man, you just seem too greedy to me. =\

I'm not satisfied knowing I won something because I win them all the time. Winning doesn't mean anything to me because I'm used to it, in fact I'm extremely disappointed if I don't win events. I'll be satisfied when I actually win something useful.

 

[Viper09]

People are so greedy when it comes to events.
It's always gimme gimme gimme, or, they got something better then me, I want something better!

What happened to just enjoying the events and the stories that go with it? Why does it always have to be about the items and their value??

 

[Sarsmi]

The day I receive a usable item (in terms of decoration or pvp/pvm) is the day I will actually be satisfied with the EM program. Because right now, I find that the people who the EM's seem to love who manage to win 5/100 events somehow manage to receive an item worth 100x more than the items which I win 95/100 times.

I believe the items are created before the event is even started, if they are given out that night. So you just had "bad" luck as far as not getting what you wanted for rewards. It wasn't the EMs hosing you personally, rofl.

 

[DevilsOwn]

where's that guy with the sig..... you know the one.....


"this is why we can't have nice things"

 

[Petrify]

I believe the items are created before the event is even started, if they are given out that night. So you just had "bad" luck as far as not getting what you wanted for rewards. It wasn't the EMs hosing you personally, rofl.

At the Great Lakes event on today one of my friends was one of the first two to receive a sash, they got pulled aside and the EM stated "hang on a second have to make it". What does that tell you?

 

[Kiminality]

I'm not satisfied knowing I won something because I win them all the time. Winning doesn't mean anything to me because I'm used to it, in fact I'm extremely disappointed if I don't win events. I'll be satisfied when I actually win something useful.

I figure that either:
a.) You make the EMs sad.
b.) You've found a place in their hearts. Like a little gremlin that runs around their ankles growling in fury at everything they do, and like the boy who cried wolf, your cries fall on deaf ears.

Either way, they probably don't like you, and all the complaining you do is just a waste of bandwidth

 

[MissEcho]

You were the one crying "WHY DIDN'T I GET A REWARD FOR PARTICIPATING". Try winning then you might get rewarded.

Incorrect. My issue is not whether you get anything or not, in fact if NOTHING was given out I would be quite happy, then those who wish to attend for the enjoyment of the event would not need to put up with those who just attend to 'get the items', those who run through multiple characters, who are rude to not only the other players but also the EM's and those ingrats who complain when they don't get what "they think they deserve".

However, where any 'reward' is intended to be issued, I think that all people who participate should at least be given a 'token' offer to show they have participated as a memento of the event. Something simple such as book, goblet, sash or 'whatever' (in this case a 'heart' would have been fitting), with: "I participated in the Valentines Day Event 2009" given to any who attend, the same item across all shards, so they are not 'rare', including one to those who may win the event and other rewards. To my mind these events should be an 'all or nothing' thing, NO rewards AT ALL, to anyone, or give all participants a 'token memento reward' along with the 'winner' prizes. Anything less causes problems.

2. I won BOTH times on my shard and received a crappy, non unique colour named necklace (lucky to get 40m for it) and a honeypot that was handed out to ten other people (10m tops).

You poor poor thing, 50 million in saleable goods for 20 mins work, poor poor you, I am so sad.

I go back to the castle and recieve a PLAIN SASH that says "Rescued Cassandra the Meer" or something.

Sheesh, and how many of these are there in existence? How is a white lantern, or a neon horse statue any more useful than this item? Least you can actually wear this. Any uniquely named item that has very limited numbers as the items you received are highly sort items and one is as 'useful' as another.

Now, somebody like Lady Kat (who EM's love) does a house design contest which the EM's didn't even tell us about (they announced it to like 5 people)

Totally incorrect, the house contest was advertised on the Oceania forum for at least a month with a closing date. I entered that and obtained the info off the forum as did many other people. Lots of people posted their designs at the time, not a select 'few' as you infer.

All in all your reply shows exactly the type of behavior that these EM events engender, hence, why I for one was pleased when they stopped them before. I just wish the mistakes made in the previous EM seasons were learned from. Most people are happy for tokens that are worth nothing, it just causes grief when items that people can sell for millions are given out which are few and far between, issued for some events and not others, given out on the same 'style' of event where some people have an advantage due to being vets, connection speed, players who can spend all day on them etc etc who can then run multiple characters in to get 'extra' rewards EG "quote: then on the second I got shafted and received the same rewards as 4th and 5th", (do the event once then bring your next char in, yes?), against the more casual player, especially when those who get them then have the audacity to complain about them.

You need to change your name from Petrify to Petulant. Grow up.

 

[Basara]

I have never seen so much filth typed on the screen in many years of playing. I saw the EM say *looks annoyed*. This was on GL. So they had fashion contest?

Maybe someday I can be there for all of the instructions, lol!

Aye... that was the problem with GL... so much spamming and trash talking it was difficult to see what you were being told. Opening the journal didnt help that much because it moved so quick that you had to scroll back through to see what they had said...

Only real option that I thought of too late was to put some players on igore... one of the reasons why it would be nice for the EMs to have the ability to remove players or at least squelch their speech...

Now I know why the people who introduced me to UO 6 years ago took their entire group to LA with new accounts when LA opened, in their words (best as I can remember and say publicly), "To get away from all the (deleted) jerks ruining Great Lakes for the real players there".

I know that, over the years, I've heard many others (long after my old guild, who were a RL family of 5 or 6 players, left for Guild Wars) talk about the fun times they had there - but also they'd never go back there to play full time - and especially not at an event.

Dealing with the dozen or so malcontents I know are full-time residents on LA, plus the ones that use their gift trading characters to try to score event items, is bad enough. I don't see how the big shards can even HAVE events, if the level of disruption scales up for them linearly.

 

[Petrify]

Either way, they probably don't like you, and all the complaining you do is just a waste of bandwidth

I don't complain too much during the events, more so after when I get screwed (which is inevitable). Anyway, EM's shouldn't have an opinion on anybody regardless of what they say or do, because that leads to bias.

Sheesh, and how many of these are there in existence? How is a white lantern, or a neon horse statue any more useful than this item? Least you can actually wear this. Any uniquely named item that has very limited numbers as the items you received are highly sort items and one is as 'useful' as another.

Er, clearly you don't understand the concept of rare collecting, so I think your opinion on the value of things is void. And you can wear white lanterns (people would kill for them).

who can then run multiple characters in to get 'extra' rewards EG "quote: then on the second I got shafted and received the same rewards as 4th and 5th"

I didn't say I ran in extra characters, I never did. I said I came 1st and got a worse reward than 2nd and 3rd and received the same rewards as 4th and 5th.

You need to change your name from Petrify to Petulant. Grow up.

Telling me to grow up yet your the one who's calling people names?

Oh and I think the only reason your upset is because you can't beat me, so your whining about my whining.

 

[Heartseeker]

You must be real insecure person Petrify.

You have to tell everyone how good you are constantly.

Oh, and MissEcho did win something; this debate with you.

 

[Hobo Sapien]

Its a wonder Mythic put the EM's back in. This thread is proof. Petrify you need to back away from your computer. Take a deep breath, go outside something. There is a off button on it you know! There are alot of people who didn't even go to the event on GL. Due to the very reasons being posted. Altho I give Mythic credit, maybe they will iron out the bugs of these events.

 

[Shh!]

Oh, and MissEcho did win something; this debate with you.

QFT.

Petrify, sadly you are the reason why the EM program can't last. Are you this ungrateful when someone gives you a Christmas present? Do you assess its value compared to what everyone else in the room got?

If events are really that disconcerting to you, perhaps you might just want to sit out the next round? Take a deep breath and say, "It's just a game. It's just a game". I'm worried about your well-being; high blood pressure, if untreated, can lead to serious health issues, even death.

 

[DevilsOwn]

I am sure there are many things that can be tweaked with any event. Do not intend for this to be an airing of grievances thread, but a place to give feedback and ideas...

altho those easy targets are very had to resist, just a reminder of what the OP had in mind for this thread

 

[BartofCats]

Who cares if the item is good or not??? holy crud!! If your going to the event and actually get something thats better than getting nothing at all!! holy.. cant satisify anyone apparantly in this game. Why they give out rewards in the first place is another story. Grab your ball and go home. you won one event, and then the other and you still pancake. Apparantly theres no making you happy.

I have been to many events by the EMs and not once recieved anything for my joining in the fun. However, I can say something that you with the pile of rewards cant. I had fun even tho I didnt get anything. This is probably why the EM events were cancelled in the first place. I am glad they are back as it gives something to do in between the regular stuff. I can go get my pixel crack somewhere else... I dont need it handed to me by an EM.

 

[Flora Green]

I'm not satisfied knowing I won something because I win them all the time. Winning doesn't mean anything to me because I'm used to it, in fact I'm extremely disappointed if I don't win events. I'll be satisfied when I actually win something useful.

You didn't have to get anything.

 

[canary]

Yes, the EM event was uneven (the EMs are learning) and a mess (purely the players fault who spammed and were unruly).

Was there room for improvement? Sure. Keep in mind though that these are two EMs who are still learning how to manage events. Stuff happens.

What appalls me is that all you seem concerned about is the price tag that is on these 'EM items'. It is sad that if you don't win something 'kewl' and 'rare' that it is worthless. I pray you weren't one of the many screaming after the event how bad it sucked because you didn't get anything.

I won't lie, however. The way people were chosen for rewards seemed more on the whims of the EMs than anything else. That was kinda 'off' for me, and when that happens it becomes REALLY easy to discuss the issue of possible favoritism (I doubt this was the case, HIGHLY; merely saying that when you do it like that it opens a good case to argue).

The event, to me, was probably a C- or at D at best if you want to grade it. Yes, it could have been more creative. Yes, it could have been done much better. I also keep in mind, however, that it was the first real 'big' event, the EMs are still new, and that many... MANY... of the players not only created issues for the other players who wanted to enjoy it, but also created a headache for the EMs to contend with, as well.

edit: As others stated above, I am ECSTATIC that EM program is back. It is more than just about items or winning things. I also commend Iatu and Malachi for even stepping up to the challenge at helping the GL shard as EMs.

 

[Sarsmi]

I believe the items are created before the event is even started, if they are given out that night. So you just had "bad" luck as far as not getting what you wanted for rewards. It wasn't the EMs hosing you personally, rofl.

At the Great Lakes event on today one of my friends was one of the first two to receive a sash, they got pulled aside and the EM stated "hang on a second have to make it". What does that tell you?

Ok, FYI. The super cool items are usually made by GMs. EMs can "create" things like old school clothing types, jewelry with no mods, tools, some other piddly things. If they create an item they can rename it. They can't rehue it a special color unless a GM has made a dye tub for them, they can only use the same tubs and dyes a player would get to use to rehue items.

What it tells me is that the EM planned an event, and planned ahead of time to not have a fancy GM made prize, but instead decided to just "create" their own items to rename. This has nothing to do with the recipient, it's all based on a decision made ahead of time.

Are you imagining that the EM had the GM create some super cool prizes before the event, and then when they saw who won decided to swap them out? Cause that is...just totally laughable and paranoid. First off that would be a bit egotistical on your part. I don't think you register in the EM's world except as another player. Secondly, the GM would say "hey what happened to that super cool glowing thingy I whipped up?" since they kinda sorta keep track of that fancy stuff they make, and then the EM would say what? I didn't want to give it to this guy, I don't like him?

C'mon, see how ridiculous it sounds? Seriously.

 

[weins201]

his bar moves under and over hundreds of theres, it was almost impossible to get the idiot who was on ATL casting spells over and over. Once i did isolate him i paged on him just before i ignored him. I hope many others did also.

Simple solution is to have the EMs squelch ALL casting in the area and just plain out boot people who are infintile idiots. If they are there plainly interupting the event send them to a pit were they cannot get out until after the speach part of the event is over.

As for the whiners about not getting an UBER LEET KILL ALL ITEM well nothign really to say.

 

[debii]

Simple solution is to have the EMs squelch ALL casting in the area and just plain out boot people who are infintile idiots. If they are there plainly interupting the event send them to a pit were they cannot get out until after the speach part of the event is over.

i hope the EM's get this ability. the people on gl were asked politely so many times to be quiet i lost count. not only did the EM ask but so did people in the crowd. it was clear to all who attended the event that some people were only there to disrupt the event and prevent the EM's from speaking and people being able to hear them and enjoy the event.

 

[Viper09]

QFT.

Petrify, sadly you are the reason why the EM program can't last. Are you this ungrateful when someone gives you a Christmas present? Do you assess its value compared to what everyone else in the room got?

Our last original EM (before this program now) quit over this type of greed. I remember meeting at the point to continue the story on Sonoma and we all noticed the EM was late. While waiting most of the people were saying things like, "I joined this even from the beginning and I get nothing?!" and "I deserve something!" Next thing we know the EM broadcasts a message along the lines of "All you people want are items? You don't even appreciate the story I give you?" Something like that, it was years ago on Sonoma. Twas our last original EM before they were all removed.
Made me sad. Story about the Kal Juka I think it was. It was left unfinished

-The EM's characters' house still stands. Fel Brit. East of the EM shrine over the bridge. Original Brit house, not placed. The EM character was Robin Ap' Mar or something like that.

 

[Borric]

Tehy def need to squelch. After I managed to ignore the disruptive people, they started to invis Juilet right after she would speak (no more visable text).

I dont see this program going forward much more. Just look at few few of the posts in this thread. I give them another 2 months before its shut down again.

Sad, really.

Borric

 

[J0KING]

I am sure there are many things that can be tweaked with any event. Do not intend for this to be an airing of grievances thread, but a place to give feedback and ideas...

altho those easy targets are very had to resist, just a reminder of what the OP had in mind for this thread

Thank you for the reminder... added that in because they were easy targets that people could complain about and truthfully figured they would...

If rewards are part of the event... it is the distribution system that I was suggesting tweaking too... too many people griping, EMs delay for making last minute items, and fair distribution if any...

Point behind the spammers/griefers... yes we can put them on ignore but the EMs should have a way to have crowd control over their events...

 

[Dol'Gorath]

1. Two winners on great lakes recieved Ice White lanterns which were named - easily worth 100m+.
2. I won BOTH times on my shard and received a crappy, non unique colour named necklace (lucky to get 40m for it) and a honeypot that was handed out to ten other people (10m tops).

Looks like you're in it just for the money...how...shameful.

 

[Lady Aalia]

I dont know how it is on other shards...

But on Atl at the Moonglow Zoo you cannot cast spells...gives you a message as of magic dont work here...

I think it does let you say the spell out loud, maybe tweak that a tad to where it dont say the spell out loud and apply it to the EM hall?

I also noticed they did put up an invisible border inside the EM hall on Atl.

Hopefully next time will be better

 

[Dol'Gorath]

Tehy def need to squelch. After I managed to ignore the disruptive people, they started to invis Juilet right after she would speak (no more visable text).

I dont see this program going forward much more. Just look at few few of the posts in this thread. I give them another 2 months before its shut down again.

Sad, really.

Borric

It's more they need a GM there to enforce the rules/jail people.
Last night there was a guy spamming the screen up and down with spells for 15 minutes before a GM hauled his ass to jail.

 

[GreyPawn]

One of the biggest issues with the event last night was indeed the spamming. This can be easily resolved on the part of the EM. Here's how.

Firstly, discipline must be established through knowledge aforesight. Those who would disrupt an event through spamming should know well in advance the consequences of their actions. It should be known that if they wish to expend energy on attempting to ruin an event, then they will be publically crucified.

Ten minutes before the EM begins the event, an area in a very out of the way location (unused dungeon, etc) should be set up with monsters/spawn enough to ensure the absolute death of anyone teleported to the area. Have the secondary helper EM say, named "a crowd control guard" stationed at that point, and the primary EM at the event location. When a player spams, simply target them with the info tool, tap their id's into IRC chat with the secondary EM, and have the secondary EM transfer that player to her location. "You have been transfered by a crowd control guard. Instant murder.

This reduces the necessity of GM oversight, reduces customer service involvement in terms of jailing and account flagging, and word of mouth will pretty quickly spread that it is unwise to spam an EM event. Best of all, it retains an in-character response.

An added detriment (depending on your level of GM support) might be to add the skill-reducing faction kill script to the monsters in question with a limited timer. Not only would the inconvenience be the death of the griefing player, but the crippling of their skills for a pre-determined amount of time. A blanket statement that not only will you be sent away, and murdered, but also reduced in such a capacity as to render your character completely disabled for the event itself.


For this and more Helpful Tips & Hints for Event Moderation Glamdring Left Out pm GreyPawn here or on Stratics IRC!

 

[Esmeralda]

Well I´m sorry to hear that GL´s event got overrun by spammers. That always sucks!
I can´t complain about our europa event, our EM handled the one spammer we had just nicely.
It just ended a bit sudden
And we didn´t have any competition, nor shiny things to take home with us. BUT we did have a funny trip on a boat...lol *still feels sea-sick*

I love event items, and I would do the happy dance if I actually win something! But tbh, it should be something other ppl don´t have. If it´s a grey necklace with a different name on it, then yay!

The greed in pixel crack is what makes those events interesting, on the same way this greed destroys the events :/

 

[Lord Frodo]

Petrify post from UO Rares Collectors http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=124795. You with your guild only did this for the gold and now you are crying because you didn't get the big gold items.

Sorry but this is (what is and what was) wrong with all events. Anybody and everybody at an event should get the same reward and the winners names can be placed in an event history book to be locked down at the EM's Office. This is why many casual players do not do events.

 

[twoburntfouryou]

Be happy your shard had an event. I either missed something or this was only on a few shards? So looking forward to something cause its getting really boring

 

[Petrify]

Since so many clueless people are getting offended by what I said I'll respond to parts.

Ok, FYI. The super cool items are usually made by GMs. EMs can "create" things like old school clothing types, jewelry with no mods, tools, some other piddly things. If they create an item they can rename it. They can't rehue it a special color unless a GM has made a dye tub for them, they can only use the same tubs and dyes a player would get to use to rehue items.

I already knew all this. I actually got my quote wrong sorry, after asking the person he told me that the EM said "hang on a second - waiting for the GM to make the item".

Petrify, sadly you are the reason why the EM program can't last. Are you this ungrateful when someone gives you a Christmas present? Do you assess its value compared to what everyone else in the room got?

Honestly if somebody got a Xbox 360 for example and I got a knitted sweater despite being the "best" I would be pissed. Wouldn't you?

Looks like you're in it just for the money...how...shameful.

When you win every event, you kind of lose interest in the simple story lines.

Petrify post from UO Rares Collectors http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=124795. You with your guild only did this for the gold and now you are crying because you didn't get the big gold items.

Of course I did it for the gold, most people do. I don't give a **** about roleplaying I enjoy getting good items to sell and inflate my huge UO bank account. There, that's the truth. And there are many, many people who only do events for the items (probably more than the roleplayers).

Anybody and everybody at an event should get the same reward and the winners names can be placed in an event history book to be locked down at the EM's Office. This is why many casual players do not do events.

If your going to do that why not just don't hand out rewards? Oh, right, sorry I forgot, you want them to do it that way so you could actually win something for once. If you guys actually put in the effort to win an event then you might get something. They already gave out those ****ty member of the royal britannian guard sashes, isn't that enough to satisfy you... considering you aren't greedy?

 

[Shh!]

Honestly if somebody got a Xbox 360 for example and I got a knitted sweater despite being the "best" I would be pissed. Wouldn't you?

Not really. I'm an adult and can afford my own XBox 360. I used to be completely consumed with getting "stuff"...when I was 12.

 

[Lia]

After doing the GL event just wanted to give some input/feedback on the events. Although it was somewhat fun... it could have room for improvement. Even though the story line was nice... some of the events seem to be having the same problem... not sure if other shards are having some of the same suggestions...

1) Player interactions - Spam, Spam, and more Spam... really hard to hear/read what the EM had to say. Appeared like some players had no interest in the event or were just determined to annoy other players.

Only idea for improvement is allow the EM's a way to remove players from the event, squelch their speech, or have a blocked off area in which they can speak.

2) Rewards - The "I didn't get anything" complaint. Either have enough for all the players or have NPCs give out the rewards similar to a quest. This way the EM isnt the person to blame if somebody didn't get anything. On the GL players had to get information from several NPCs, but then the EMs picked who received the reward.

Could have even had one of the NPCs sell an event item (gold sink idea). Perfect example was the Apothecary on the GL could have sold the poison he gave to Juliet.


I am sure there are many things that can be tweaked with any event. Do not intend for this to be an airing of grievances thread, but a place to give feedback and ideas...

I agree completely. I had looked forward to that event so much, but I should have known. And, I did try the Ignore list, but it didn't seem to help me much, because I could still see the spam everywhere. Half the time, people were stepping on the EM, and I have never seen such pathetically rude behavior. God, this is what comes of playing a game with babies.

Honestly, I felt sorry for the EMs half the time and then frustrated. They should have just squelched the players, and stood in a place that was easy for everyone to see and hear.

As far as the items being given: It was honestly so disorganized there, that half the time, I had no idea what the rewards were even for. Far better, as the OP stated, would have been to give rewards to everyone who participated - and by "participated", I don't mean stood there and spammed *Sticks hand up EMs robe* (yes, that happened) and crap like that.

I mean the ones who went ghost-hunting and talked like normal, who were *silent* when the EM asked (over and over and over again), and in general TRIED to play like normal people. Honestly, that was the worst I've ever seen players act. It was just shameful and embarrassing.

The way the items were given out was very unorganized in my opinion and seemed random, or intentional, depending on your point of view.

Or, as the OP stated, they could have just had them sold by NPCs, or whatever. The poison bottle was a great idea.

Or, they could have not given ANY items. This way was actually far more aggravating.

But, mainly, they need to focus on squelching players, or booting them off to jail like in the old days, so that those of us trying to pay attention and participate can enjoy the event.

So, yes, there is a LOT of room for improvement, or I can't see why the EM program should even continue.

 

[Kiminality]

If your going to do that why not just don't hand out rewards? Oh, right, sorry I forgot, you want them to do it that way so you could actually win something for once. If you guys actually put in the effort to win an event then you might get something. They already gave out those ****ty member of the royal britannian guard sashes, isn't that enough to satisfy you... considering you aren't greedy?

For someone who's calling others clueless, you're certainly not doing a good job of having a clue.

 

[MadMageMagnus]

Petrify: your exactly the ideal of which GL stands for, greedy , selfish, arrogant..

In all the events I have participated in, this is the 1st i got anything, im so very happy, regardless its worth, its unique to me.

And youre complaining because of 95/100 event items youve won (numbers are an example) only 5 had any pvp/pvm value or were worth as a 100m deco item

you know what? toss those items in the trash, stop going to events and be done with it

I can just imagine what youd really want to say to the EM the next time they hand you another prize..

(the following play is an act of imagination relevant to no known point in time and therefore has no meaning other than to amuse everyone else, also known as a parody, in no way meant as a personal attack but a slight of hand for visual cue)

EM: here ya go, Petrify...
Petrify: what? thats it?
EM: what do you mean? its a 200 di 60 ssi balanced bow named "armageddon" in neon blue shade, only one of its kind, ever.
Petrify: its rubbish, i need something for my fencer, this event was a waste of everyone's time, especially mine.
EM: ....
Petrify: next time do your job right, and just give lend me a GM's powers so I can create my own items
EM: ...
Petrify: you know? just move over, I can do your job 10x better, so I always get great items, just for me
EM: what about everyone else?
Petrify: theres somebody else on this shard? a pox! Only I count!

 

[BlackFoltz]

I think the GL storyline was "OK"... I feel sorry for the EM's because they couldn't push through the story due to the spamming and gimmie's.

 

[jelinidas]

Petrify....Please do not transfer shards. I like where you are, not near me.
Sad really...*walks away shaking head* Sad.

 

[Thunderz]

Can we get this locked Please (with a capital P)? Its serving no purpose but angering the angery and winding up the people who don't like the people who get angery over the events because they didnt get anything they wanted like it used to be.
Iv managed to partisapate on most servers already putting up with the spam and still doing the quests fine knowing the EM has probably taken a mental note of there name like they probably do here (that would be cool, biaist EMs all the way when it concerns greedy/stupid kids) sorry mums of those kids......!

I'dd hate to be an EM now and have to read all this negitivness, over what there taking there time out to do for US. If you dont like it go play your own free server have billions and every rare you ever wanted to see cos your no more alone here than you would be there.....!

END...

Please lock it pleaseeeee pleaseeeeeeeeee......

 

[Lord Frodo]

Since so many clueless people are getting offended by what I said I'll respond to parts.

Petrify post from UO Rares Collectors http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=124795. You with your guild only did this for the gold and now you are crying because you didn't get the big gold items.

Of course I did it for the gold, most people do. I don't give a **** about roleplaying I enjoy getting good items to sell and inflate my huge UO bank account. There, that's the truth. And there are many, many people who only do events for the items (probably more than the roleplayers).

Anybody and everybody at an event should get the same reward and the winners names can be placed in an event history book to be locked down at the EM's Office. This is why many casual players do not do events.

If your going to do that why not just don't hand out rewards? Oh, right, sorry I forgot, you want them to do it that way so you could actually win something for once. If you guys actually put in the effort to win an event then you might get something. They already gave out those ****ty member of the royal britannian guard sashes, isn't that enough to satisfy you... considering you aren't greedy?

Sorry to say this but you are the clueless one. You did not do this event. You and your guild mates did it together so you could get more of the rewards. The proof is in your own post on the rares forum. Sorry to tell you this but not everybody is as greedy as you and if they gave out momentos to events to everybody then they would be worthless. Just a reminder of the event that you went to. Why does everything UO have to be about gold? It is greedy people like you that will shut down the events for good because EA/UO will get tired of your whinning. Sorry if little Johnny got a better Xmas present than you did this year.