I was talking to a few people about how they don't get drops. And as we all know about UO, they always will change things to make the people happy. Thats how things work in the world of UO. So before they do something stuiped like that, they should think about all the people that come in the end of the hunt and get it. If they do change anything it should be fair to the people that do the full hunt. They should make it that for each level u do u get a 10% chance of getting it and if u do the boss alone u will have 0% chance. Yea people are going to said thats not fair but if u watch at oaks only the real hunters are killing the dragons trying to get that extra chance of getting the drop but its always that _________ that just comes and gets hits on the boss that gets it. I'm not saying that every boss should drops one, I would like to know what other real hunters that do the full hunt think about this. and Yea thoese that think that just killing the boss should be all u need to do. BRING IT ON
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There are "confirmed" instances (see below for the definition of "confirmed") of players who hit the champ alone and got artifacts, and players who fought the spawn alone (did not hit the champ) and get artifacts.
I really don't think there's anything wrong with the current system. Sure I'd prefer a "persistence bonus," like in Doom and the now-defunct Treasures of Tokuno drops, but even without that I would argue the system's working ok as is.
-Galen's player
PS: "confirmed" means that folks who post regularly on these boards have reported both instances. Sure they COULD be lying or mistaken.
I really don't think there's anything wrong with the current system. Sure I'd prefer a "persistence bonus," like in Doom and the now-defunct Treasures of Tokuno drops, but even without that I would argue the system's working ok as is.
-Galen's player
PS: "confirmed" means that folks who post regularly on these boards have reported both instances. Sure they COULD be lying or mistaken.
Your right that u could just hit the champ and get something, It happen to me but i feel that the people that were there should have got it. And no i wan't going to give it to somebody that was. hehe. Im just playing it out till they mess it up and start dropping it like water.
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MudFace
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1. this has already been talked about in another thread just search the forums
2. 0% if you do the champ alone without working the spawn you say? I think that would be realy unfair to alot of reds seeing they dont have valor and cant pop a champ idol thus not being able to work a FULL spawn. in most cases the reds "Raid" spawns thus meaning that the champ is almost up or is up by the time they arrive so if the dev's changed it then that would mean 0% chance for any red raiding a spawn since they didnt work a FULL spawn
3. if your talking about tram spawns then lets say I just get home from work logg on run to a ilsh spawn and tada champ is up I help kill him and I get the replica and you say thats unfair? lets talk about the peeps that work the spawn to lvl 3 or so then run off and hide and get the replicas that in my opinion is whats realy unfair at least if i run up and hit the champ and help kill him at least I worked for the replica maybe not as much as those that worked a full spawn but i still did some work to get it =)
2. 0% if you do the champ alone without working the spawn you say? I think that would be realy unfair to alot of reds seeing they dont have valor and cant pop a champ idol thus not being able to work a FULL spawn. in most cases the reds "Raid" spawns thus meaning that the champ is almost up or is up by the time they arrive so if the dev's changed it then that would mean 0% chance for any red raiding a spawn since they didnt work a FULL spawn
3. if your talking about tram spawns then lets say I just get home from work logg on run to a ilsh spawn and tada champ is up I help kill him and I get the replica and you say thats unfair? lets talk about the peeps that work the spawn to lvl 3 or so then run off and hide and get the replicas that in my opinion is whats realy unfair at least if i run up and hit the champ and help kill him at least I worked for the replica maybe not as much as those that worked a full spawn but i still did some work to get it =)
"REDS" all they like to do is jump spawn and kill the boss, get what they can and if they cant pop idol, bring in somebody that can. Thats all bull ---- thats the only reason they wait till the end, NO work and all play, and jump people what do all the work, they shouldn't be able to get the drop and i dont care what anybody says about that. Do the champ hunt or get ---- .
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MudFace
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So what your saying is that anyone that doesnt work a full spawn shouldnt get anything from the champ boss ok then maybe those that didnt help work to get the keys for peerless shouldnt be able to go inside and kill the peerless boss and get items =P I dont see a problem with champ spawns (and I have not gotten a champ drop by the way) way I look at it is at least they do some work to get the items =)
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Smokin
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Well you do realize you can choose not to invite the people who do not get the keys.
And that is a bug which has been fixed and will be in Pub 58 along with other fixes for the champ spawns. As stated in another thread, I will make a detailed post on what the changes are and how the reward distribution works in the next FoF.
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rwek
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I worked a spawn to level 2, then we moved into star room and defended. The next guild did the next 2 levels and boss. I got a 115 scroll and shroud of deceit while I was in star room.
Nice stuff
Nice stuff
I think if you help kill the boss you should have a small chance at something, while people who worked all the spawn should have a greater chance. Working the lower levels should not count as much as the higher levels. So someone who works the whole thing should have the greatest chance to get a drop. .
Which is the bug? Hitting the champ alone, or hitting the spawn alone, or both?
-Galen's player
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MagiHui
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Quit whining and learn to beat the system.
Run out, get ressed and go to ANY dungeon and you can get a drop whether its arti or PS.
Other day I worked despise to level 3 and then a guild raided me.. I got THREE powerscrolls's, three on the char working spawn and three on the protector. PLUS I got detective boots.
Immediately after that I worked despise to second level and got two ps's (4 total) and the oak leaf robe.
Bottom line is.. go get ressed and wait for someone else to kill the champ, its the easiest way to do it.
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J0KING
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Have to agree with this... There should be a higher percentage for somebody who worked the entire spawn and hung around to take out the boss.
So you got on your naked red guy and killed him over and over for the right to protect. Thats another BS meter pegger thats needs to be fixed. Needs to be put in when you die as a red a window pops up giving the option to give virtue points at the loss of skill and/or murder counts or something. Some effect that in game that has earn and loss factor. Or a way to send up a flag in game that Joe Snuffy Red has died 30 times in the last few hours so some GM with a backbone can pop in for a peek. Points to number murder counts effect with some timer based on when virtue can be earned off a red per number counts ha has. Just as a blue has the option to not be a punk and reward a murder count to good fight, a red should have the option to give up status murder counts to whoever killed them in an honest fight. Needs to be some status system for reds alone like the Lord and Lady fluff but for murders. Pride in the profession like a Manson or SoS over a zit covered freak walking about shooting kids in a school. Some loss and gain needs to be added as soon as the ahcks are delt with.
The getting of Power Scroll without hitting the champ sounds like one those things they didn't intend that needs to be left alone. Hopefully the fix to come covers a better chance for those that take part in all levels of champ hunt. Want a take a champ area over/raid? show up earlier and bring some PVM ubers to defend while they spawn the champ. Should be like a more group planning effort with the break out the dice in the end at the teams house. As far as the new champ drop items the drop rate is just fine. First time players haven't burned out on something new in a few weeks. Sure be the fix to the ghost cam if a spawned needed to be worked to get more PSs and better chance at a Relic drop.
To much of what has been added to UO last few years been the tossing paint on a wall and calling it art. You know scripting goes on so you add a museum turn in for sweet rewards and then don't take advantage the perfect mouse trap to open up housing plots. Smoking the account that gains from the other. There are enough professional players that can be gleamed from the shards that have a better knowledge the effect something added will have. Why more attention needs to be give to theese boards and used as a tool. Decade of playing UO.......takes that long to become a Doctor. Sure someone paying to play is sitting at Luna bank right now. With nubified scissors and dagger, PBD & name matching AoS clothing, working enhanced looted armor suit over cookie cutter arty/duped val suit that has more a UO World view over who's it you pay to tell ya.