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Sampire nerfed again

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luners

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When Sampire uses Divine Fury, the Sampire is low level.
ROFL.
If you can't manage ~13 seconds or less of having 10 less DCI, then you need to take a good hard look at your setup. Divine Fury is a last resort, not the first.
Sampire doesn't need Slayer weapon.
It's enough with perfection and Enemy of One because of the limit of x3 damage.

Regarding Divine Fury, the loss of DCI is a great loss.
So, Japanese Sampires use greater stamina potion.
Divine Fury isn't even a last resort.

And there are not duped runics in Japanese shards unlike other shards.
So, searching uber gear is so hard.

Why should Japanese Sampires adapt to the ways of American Sampires?
Japanese players populate more than 50% of all UO players.
American players should adapt to the ways of Japanese players.

And it seems that I can't communicate with you.
So, I won't argue with you anymore.
Nerf is nerf.
Changes of swing speed, mana/life leech, evasion, Vampiric Embrace have been regarded as nerfs by Japanese Sampires.

And why should I argue in ENGLISH?
Why can't I talk in JAPANESE?

I can't stand anymore.
 

Flutter

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Didn't read all the posts sorry if point was already made but...

Maybe the nerf has nothing to do with PvP at all... maybe the dev team decided that particular PvM template shouldn't be as powerful as it is...
Hmmm

IDK Why a certain group of UO players blames every change in the game on another playstyle.
 

Viper09

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The players other than me will test it.
And I can hear their feedbacks.

Further, the problem isn't in a nerf of heal potion.
It's in the fact that Sampire has been nerfed again and again.
I have been too tired of these nerfs of Sampire.
Sure. Except you are the only "Sampire" whining about it right now.
 
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rockytriton

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First of all, you can whine all day in Japanese, that's fine with us, but you won't get any responses.

Anway, I'm just curious as to what the nerfs are because I've been thinking of creating a sampire.

Changes of swing speed?
mana/life leech?
evasion?
Vampiric Embrace?

What are the nerfs exactly?
 
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Connor_Graham

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Sampire doesn't need Slayer weapon.
It's enough with perfection and Enemy of One because of the limit of x3 damage.
True, but why waste the mana on EoO when you've got a perfectly good slayer weapon you can use? It's also very helpful in places that have more than just the one type of creature.



Regarding Divine Fury, the loss of DCI is a great loss.
So, Japanese Sampires use greater stamina potion.
Divine Fury isn't even a last resort.
It's only a loss if you haven't built additional DCI into your suit to compensate. This is the part where the gear and tactics come in.


And there are not duped runics in Japanese shards unlike other shards.
So, searching uber gear is so hard.
What, you don't have any Smiths or Tailors on your shard? Most of the gear that I have I either enhanced or made myself.



Why should Japanese Sampires adapt to the ways of American Sampires?
Japanese players populate more than 50% of all UO players.
American players should adapt to the ways of Japanese players.
Just because there are more Japanese players doesn't mean that they're playing the template better. I'd say that since American players don't have to depend on potions they're better suited to it. Being "more" doesn't mean being "better".


And it seems that I can't communicate with you.
So, I won't argue with you anymore.
Nerf is nerf.
Changes of swing speed, mana/life leech, evasion, Vampiric Embrace have been regarded as nerfs by Japanese Sampires.
The reason you're having so much trouble is the simple fact that you can't admit to yourself that it's not the Sampire template that's being nerfed, but your playstyle that's largely dependent on potions. A playstyle that you're going to have to change and be more like us "Americans" whether you like it or not.


And why should I argue in ENGLISH?
Why can't I talk in JAPANESE?
You could, but since this is an English speaking forum, no one would ever answer you.
 
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Connor_Graham

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First of all, you can whine all day in Japanese, that's fine with us, but you won't get any responses.

Anway, I'm just curious as to what the nerfs are because I've been thinking of creating a sampire.

Changes of swing speed?
mana/life leech?
evasion?
Vampiric Embrace?

What are the nerfs exactly?
The only Sampire specific nerf there's been lately has been needing to have the skill on you at all times in order to maintain forms, so you have to have at least 99 Necro in order to stay in Vamp form. The other items you mentioned were all things that were done 2 or more years ago.
 

cdavbar

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Or maybe if they learn what they are doing and balance stuff BEFORE the add it into the game. I mean lets take Greater dragons for example, which Dev thought 70 damage fireballs would not require a nerf in the future.

do they even play uo? lol
THAT is how dragons should be REMEMBER back in the day when it took a group of people to kill things like this? Now any newbie can walk in there and whack a drake or drag, its about time the upped the level we have to deal with and make the game a little more challanging for people. Now if your talking about a tamed one thats different for obvious pvp reasons cuz then your gonna have these little bi*&#s crying the tamers are to tough, nerf them so that way i can be number one again cuz im to fu*&ing lazy to change so i gotta make everyone else f*&^ing suffer.

GOD I HATE PEOPLE WHO WINE ABOUT STUPID $H!T....(in no way meant to the original poster, cuz i to have a sammy and i no longer use him since the vamp embrace **** not working. now to nerf his sammy skills would make him useless and really pisses me off since i spent a LONG time training him just right for PvM. FU&* PVP for the simple reason that people bit*& like this.)
 

Tom_Builder

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Further, the problem isn't in a nerf of heal potion.
It's in the fact that Sampire has been nerfed again and again.
I have been too tired of these nerfs of Sampire.
I agree, none of these changes will affect my bard. Who mainly heals with pots, or my dexxer who also uses pots for healing. Damn, my tamer uses them too. But these guys wont be affected at all....or will they?
 

Comic Book Guy

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When Sampire uses Divine Fury, the Sampire is low level.
ROFL.
Evidently sampires using potions has to be a basic level player, if DF sampire is a low level player.

Adapt, get some gear, and for Pete's sake.....



QUIT WHINING
 

Harlequin

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QQ = Crying eyes.

Pew Pew = Shooting.
less QQ more pew pew means:


excuse me sir, but pls stop your crying, complaining and b*tching and play the game.
Ahhh, thanks for clearing that up.


To luners: I don't like the healing pot nerf either, I'd rather they make other things stronger if there's a need to rebalance stuff. That being said, it really isn't targetted specifically at sampires. In fact, sampires should be the least affected by this, since most of the time you can leech your hp back, and if you also use "curse weapon" as well, you almost never need to chug healing pots. You only need to chug a potion in the most dire situations.

I have seen alot of Japanese players using sammys to solo bosses, most of those that I witness, do it without the use of potions, I don't know how, I tend to die alot even with potions.
 

Viper09

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In fact, sampires should be the least affected by this, since most of the time you can leech your hp back, and if you also use "curse weapon" as well, you almost never need to chug healing pots. You only need to chug a potion in the most dire situations.
Seriously. I find myself rarely even having to use aids on my necro/macer who is also a vampire (lol).

The second my health starts dropping I do two things, cast curse weapon, and use aids. Naturally, I always end up wasting that aid since curse weapon heals me right back up again :D
 
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Azmira Zalof

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Has no one pointed out this guy is crying because they nerfed an OVERPOWERED PvM build?

And yes, the sampire is overpowered. When one template can solo content that was meant for entire groups of people (read: peerless bosses), something isn't right there.

Anyway, my thoughts on the thread? Quit feeding the trolls. :)
 
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Connor_Graham

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And yes, the sampire is overpowered. When one template can solo content that was meant for entire groups of people (read: peerless bosses), something isn't right there.
Oh, you mean like the Tamers that can solo things that not even the best Sampires can?

:lick:
 

Ender

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Has no one pointed out this guy is crying because they nerfed an OVERPOWERED PvM build?

And yes, the sampire is overpowered. When one template can solo content that was meant for entire groups of people (read: peerless bosses), something isn't right there.

Anyway, my thoughts on the thread? Quit feeding the trolls. :)
So tamers and wraith samurais that can solo the same stuff AREN'T overpowered?

Do I smell a whiny tamer that thinks he should be better because he had to train more than anyone else? Or just someone that's ignorant of the fact that vamp samurais weren't that overpowered?
 

Omnius

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So tamers and wraith samurais that can solo the same stuff AREN'T overpowered?

Do I smell a whiny tamer that thinks he should be better because he had to train more than anyone else? Or just someone that's ignorant of the fact that vamp samurais weren't that overpowered?
bottom line, they are all overpowered for pvm and the long standing belief in pvm is, if its overpowered, leave it alone.
 

Viper09

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So tamers and wraith samurais that can solo the same stuff AREN'T overpowered?

Do I smell a whiny tamer that thinks he should be better because he had to train more than anyone else? Or just someone that's ignorant of the fact that vamp samurais weren't that overpowered?
I don't know what you were just reading, but nowhere did he say anything about taming or other templates...why you have to go and change the subject?
He was responding to the main poster here and he never said sampires were the ONLY overpowered template. The subject here is sampires, not tamers, or wraith samurais, etc.
If you want to rant about other templates go open your own thread. This one is about sampires.
 
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Azmira Zalof

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You smell someone that rarely, if ever, pvms. Not because of lack of ability, but by choice. PvM is rinse/repeat once you find the appropriate build. Peerless bosses were incredibly challenging for anything less than 5 players when they came out, but then someone figured out the efficiency of sampires and now people are complaining they can only solo peerless bosses in 45 minutes instead of 15.

I'm not a tamer either. I'm a person that had a sampire before the nerfs and was able to solo high end content with about 10 minutes of soulstoning together a sampire. Those templates are not challenging. Nor are they balanced. And I'll also say that greater dragons are overpowered, not just in pvp, but also in pvm.

And which peerless can a tamer solo by themselves? Unless of course, you're talking disco/tamer. But even then, that's a stretch.
 

Ender

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I don't know what you were just reading, but nowhere did he say anything about taming or other templates...why you have to go and change the subject?
He was responding to the main poster here and he never said sampires were the ONLY overpowered template. The subject here is sampires, not tamers, or wraith samurais, etc.
If you want to rant about other templates go open your own thread. This one is about sampires.
Said when ONE template can solo.... whatever I don't remember the rest. Forget to add the other 2 that can solo a good number of peerless bosses.
 
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Azmira Zalof

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Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit of yours is it?

Let me break it down, skippy.

...because they nerfed an OVERPOWERED PvM build?
Now, I bolded the key part of my statement since it seemed to be too hard to pick out the first time through.

From my good friend Webster:

an - a form of the indefinite article "a" indicating a singular, a certain, a particular.

So, when I say "an overpowered pvm build" I, of course, am referring to one of many. This statement is not as inclusive as saying "THE overpowered pvm build" indicating that the sampire build is the single overpowered template in pvm.
 

Ender

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Eh, whatever. I still find it rather funny that they nerf templates that actually do SOME work rather than tamers that just hit the all kill button then target a monster, but LOL @ thinking the devs could make a competent change.
 
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Connor_Graham

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Reading comprehension isn't a strong suit of yours is it?
It's actually quite good. Yours may need some work though since all I did was give an example of a template that is even more overpowered for comparison. I didn't write anything other than that.



Let me break it down, skippy.
Maybe it's your reading comprehension that need some work. The name is Connor, not Skippy. It says so right next to every post I make.
 

Diomedes Artega

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I actually quited UO a year ago because I'm too tired of nerfs of Sampire because of balancing PvP.
And I escaped to EverQuestII, which is a PvM game mainly.
While I can't speak for EverQuestII, I am sure it has it's pitfalls like every other game. I don't agree with their constant "tinkering" either to fix said template or any others for that matter. It is much the same thing as a certain company who likes to put out products and through trial and error, patches and other various fixes to "make" a product.

I stick with UO though, because primarily every other game I have played, you get to "x" level, and then? Exactly. And, then what. Because there is nothing else to do. You do raids, or you fight some notorious monster in hopes of getting a drop, so on. There is little incentive in other games to keep playing in my book.

While people may complain, there are so many combinations for what you can do in this game. I would like more races or more of a variation in that sense, but...that is my own personal opinion and based from playing the older Ultima games.

That said, there is little combination in other online games...that I've seen anyways. You have "talent builds" and "trees" but whatever, it is nothing unique like Ultima Online.
 
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Azmira Zalof

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Maybe it's your reading comprehension that need some work. The name is Connor, not Skippy. It says so right next to every post I make.
That post wasn't directed at you. Not one part of it. I actually didn't read yours, accidentally skipped over it. My post was directed at Ender's.
 
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