Aww, you are making it sound like we are the bullys here...... oh wait......
I think guild difference jumps in right here. COPs are relatively casual PvP compared to Scam. As long as they can get a dsp finished 2 men or 25 men, they would do it. And if they are willing to take anyone on sonoma, which they already do short scams, good for them. A huge guild has power, even if their players are medicore at best.
Each and every single scam members knows how to play their templates right. We are all mage capable. We are not limited to Stealthers/Hiding Archer Tamer/Animal Form Archer Tamer/Hiding Dexer/Hiding Mages and most of us even our SPAWNERS are in faction.
Hardcore vs Casual is all that is. that's why our guild isnt the best option for many newb players, they are better off joining other guilds.
If some people can wake up and stop hiding behind Joo ALL HAXXX shield and face it, there's a reason why scam takes out guild double or more their number that also have the notoriety advantage(no stat loss) for most of their members. And I am that close to record a video on how fast some people in certain guild can run, gaining tiles on us while yelling "Scams are all speedhackers"