Riddle me this (Fel Champ droppings) =D

[Arch Magus]

Question about being on the sub-server? in felucca dungeons.

A few days ago I worked a Despise up to 3rd level, got ran out of the dungeon and didn't go back (I can't fight a 4v1). no problem.

I decided to check out Destard. Wasn't much going on there so I thought I would try to kill one of those Greater drags, which are very difficult. Too difficult some would say.

Anyways, 10mins or so later I get the Champion message and have a 115 Scroll in my pack.

My questions..

Is it because I was in Destard that the scroll dropped for me, as opposed to being outside of the dungeon or elsewhere?
Do you also have a chance at replicas and deco this way?
Would I have got the drop if I was in Destard level2?
Does this have to do with the "subserver"?

Either way, I thought it was interesting.

 

[Petrify]

It's because destard is on the same subserver as despise (and any other fel duengon), also, there is a bug at the moment for whoever kills the most spawn gets a powerscroll in there backpack, without even hitting the champ. You can get replicas by getting the spawn to level 3, getting crashed and going to a duengon. Because you don't need to hit the champ.

 

[Arch Magus]

Just as I suspected. Thanks for the info.

 

[drinkbeerallday]

Protector has to be within 90 tiles of where the champ dies.

At least theoretically, there's so many bugs right now it's hard to say. This was a real sloppy publish.

 

[Arch Magus]

Protector has to be within 90 tiles of where the champ dies.

At least theoretically, there's so many bugs right now it's hard to say. This was a real sloppy publish.

I'm just a solo Red mage, no protector's involved.

I think they put this in on purpose, the top spawn killer getting a scroll.

 

[Maggie]

I hope this was not an intended feature because it means you can (i did) lose scrolls. Your protector who doesnt hit the champ gets a scroll because he killed a lot of spawn but he cannot protect himself do you do not get doubles.

 

[drinkbeerallday]

I think they put this in on purpose, the top spawn killer getting a scroll.

Like 3 weeks ago, Regine (I think) said it was a bug. I'm sure they will be fixing it. (only for scrolls, replica are supposed to drop to everyone)

 

[Kahlan_FHP]

This is intended and here is why:

First off, it prevents guilds from working it to the champ and then getting raided and not getting anything from there work. As long as you work the spawn up to or past level 2 you have a chance at a scroll.

Now big zerg guilds will actually have to work spawns if they want to prevent others from getting all of the scrolls. I personally love this new change as it promotes more pvp. Its going to make ghost cams almost useless.

I do however believe you should have to be in THAT dungeon for the champ which you worked. I dont think you should be able to leave and still get a scroll in a different dungeon.

Anyways, this is the best thing that has happened for UO in a LONG time.

 

[Sneaky Que]

No, its terrible, because now people who take the time to work the spawn, kill the boss and successfully protect their spawn can and do lose scrolls to leeches who run through, quickly kill a bit of spawn and hide off in a corner without being seen to wait for the spawn to be completed and get their chance at scrolls. This does NOTHING to promote PvP at all. In fact it gives the ability for people to leech scrolls without ever having to engage in PvP.

 

[Kahlan_FHP]

No, its terrible, because now people who take the time to work the spawn, kill the boss and successfully protect their spawn can and do lose scrolls to leeches who run through, quickly kill a bit of spawn and hide off in a corner without being seen to wait for the spawn to be completed and get their chance at scrolls. This does NOTHING to promote PvP at all. In fact it gives the ability for people to leech scrolls without ever having to engage in PvP.

Wrong. Again, for it to work, and I've done this many times to test. You have to work the spawn to and possibly past second level. Otherwise you get nothing.

 

[Sneaky Que]

Wrong. Again, for it to work, and I've done this many times to test. You have to work the spawn to and possibly past second level. Otherwise you get nothing.

Sorry, but its not wrong at all. How do I know? Because I have done it, and have had it done to me. At one spawn since the publish, I ran in, dropped 1 single EV, and from the amount of spawn that EV killed I got a 115 scroll once the champ was killed. I did not touch the champ, and the only spawn I killed was what 1 EV could manage (which of course is not that much). You may not ALWAYS get a scroll doing it like this, but trust me, you have a chance, which is a complete joke.

 

[Kahlan_FHP]

Your shard must be messed up Has never happened with me. However I love the idea of getting a scroll if you work the spawn at least two levels. Perfect fix.

 

[Sneaky Que]

Your shard must be messed up Has never happened with me. However I love the idea of getting a scroll if you work the spawn at least two levels. Perfect fix.

IMO the perfect 'fix' is just returning the way scrolls drop to the way it was before this bug was introduced, which will probably happen once the Devs get back from holidays (I think that is tomorrow for you guys in US yeh?).

It is the replicas that were meant to (and do) have this system attached to them, however I think it needs to be tweaked for them also, you should have to kill a significant amount of spawn to get a chance at one. As you say, completing the last two levels or something along those lines would be good.

 

[Kahlan_FHP]

As you say, completing the last two levels or something along those lines would be good.

First 2 levels.

 

[RichDC]

IMO the perfect 'fix' is just returning the way scrolls drop to the way it was before this bug was introduced, which will probably happen once the Devs get back from holidays (I think that is tomorrow for you guys in US yeh?).

It is the replicas that were meant to (and do) have this system attached to them, however I think it needs to be tweaked for them also, you should have to kill a significant amount of spawn to get a chance at one. As you say, completing the last two levels or something along those lines would be good.

Can i make a guess that you are in a zerg guild who was used to being able to monopolise the money/scrolls on your shard by zerging the spawns at the champ healing it up and taking all the glory???

Perosnally i think if you have worked a majority of the spawn (as our guild does alot then gets raided) why shouldnt we be rewarded?

I do not know of people getting scrolls by simply killing one or 2monsters (unless of course the spawn is 2maned or solod)